Divisive Green reaction to Muller leadership

On of the quiet achievements of new National leader Todd Muller is his work with Minister of the Environment James Shaw in the Zero Carbon Bill. From Wikipedia:

During his time in Opposition he was given the task of working with the Government on its Zero Carbon Bill. National ended up supporting the bill, with some caveats. Muller’s work on the bill earned him respect from across the House.

In his first speech as leader Muller said:

I’m not interested in opposition for opposition’s sake. We’re all tired of that kind of politics.

I’m about ideas that get results.

He has already shown that in practice with the Zero Carbon Bill collaboration (as did Shaw).

I think it’s fair to say that Muller’s leadership and some of his aims contrast somewhat with his predecessor Simon bridges.

But just after Muller took over the leadership the Green Party of Aotearoa new Zealand campaign manager (Matthew Thomas) emailed:

Same old, same old!

I wanted to share with you my biggest concern about the future of Aotearoa: that changing National’s leadership won’t change their political position and they will keep their same failed policies.

That is why, regardless of the National’s leadership, we have a job to do – keep thinking ahead – and pushing for policies that bring us together. 

We will continue to push our bold plans to build a future where the government does more, faster, to protect our planet and make sure everyone is treated equally regardless of their age, gender or postcode.

By changing their leadership, we risk National doubling down on their detrimental policies while deflecting from their failures. We can’t let this happen. We’ve worked hard to undo their broken systems but still have so much more to do.

I would have thought that Muller’s leadership increased the chances of more collaboration, for the mutual benefit of the Greens and National – and for the good of the Government and the country.

Of course the email was playing to a Green audience and also included the usual pleas for more donations.

But not all Green supporters are vehemently and blindly opposed to working with National. Some would even be happy to see a National-green coalition.

I guess the campaign director has to rustle up badly needed campaign funds, and may see more opportunities from Greens who seem to hate parties with alternative policies and priorities.

But as much as the Greens need funds, they also need votes, for their survival. They need votes from people who would prefer a more cooperative Parliament, and not one divided into ‘them’ versus ‘us’.

If Shaw approved of the tone of this email I’d be quite disappointed. he should see a new National leader as a an opportunity for more gains, not an excuse to promote greater division.

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  1. Gezza

     /  23rd May 2020

    Wow. Uncanny. Con got a very similar email yesterday from some Green chick he’s BFF’s with.

    “Conspiratoor / 22nd May 2020
    Not wanting to be left out of the action my good friend marama flicked me an email just now…

    Kia ora Con,

    I wanted to share with you my biggest concern about the future of Aotearoa: that changing National’s leadership won’t change their political position and they will keep their same failed policies.

    To stop this, we need to run the strongest campaign possible, ensuring the next government has people, planet and the weed front and centre. By giving $3 today you’ll be making this a reality.”

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    • Duker

       /  23rd May 2020

      Mass emails to anyone who subscribes…no BFF

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      • Gezza

         /  23rd May 2020

        Hang on bud – Con says that chick’s his good friend, & the email content’s different from the one PG quotes from in his post.

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        • Duker

           /  23rd May 2020

          Marama – party leader
          campaign manager (Matthew Thomas)
          Mass communication may be a mystery to you but best to not to show ignorance

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          • Gezza

             /  23rd May 2020

            Put your reading glasses on. How do you explain the difference in email content?

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            • Conspiratoor

               /  23rd May 2020

              You are naughty G but as a keen student of human behaviour you disappoint. Some folks are linear thinkers. They tend to take things literally and struggle to cope with a little embellishment. Corky’s troll case in point.

              But as a wise old zen monk once told me, we are all unique, just like everyone else

            • Gezza

               /  23rd May 2020

              I’m not the naughty one – creating fake ngus & slyly implying it’d come from a political target, Con.

              Altho as you’re a fully paid up Trumpophile for some “fucked up” reason one can see how that might seem funny to someone who adores him & sneers at the both the kind of farmer brown boofheads who’d believe that sort of bullshit if he’d retweeted it – AND the lowbrow liberal boofheads who’g get all cranked up over it.

              As a keen student of human behaviour, I remain a keen observer of aberrant behaviour.

            • Gezza

               /  23rd May 2020

              *who’g = who’d

              FiP ! Mind you, I nodded off for a couple of hours watching a doco on WW2 Panzers & just woke up.

              I’ve missed Melissa Stokes shrieking about the day’s fluffy compilation on 1News at 6.

              Corky – if you’re around, have I missed anything worthwhile – is it worth watching on the plus one channel ?

            • Conspiratoor

               /  23rd May 2020

              G, I concur. Those damn ngus should be banned because they can trouble some folks. Given time you will work out why so many of those boofheads will ignore the bs and swing in behind trump at the polls …or maybe you wont

            • Gezza

               /  23rd May 2020

              There’s no great intellect required to figure out why Trump still has a good chance at a 2nd term, although he really ought to be kicked to the kerb & swapped out for someone intelligent who’s a decent human being.

              Look at the Dems & their contender. “Hopeless” as another (AWOL & rather bitter) keen observer of human behaviour might say.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  23rd May 2020

              “someone intelligent who’s a decent human being”. In the absence of both attributes would you take one?

            • Gezza

               /  23rd May 2020

              Yep. I’d go for decent human being. Even if they’re not particularly bright they won’t appeal to bent folks’ baser instincts like Trump does.m

  2. Duker

     /  23rd May 2020

    In the earlier paen to Muller , his comments are described as “gentle sounding but fairly scathing swipes’

    “Labour has failed against every measure it has set for itself in Government- KiwiBuild, Light Rail, child poverty, prison numbers.
    If we continue on this track of talking a big game but failing to deliver, we simply won’t recognise the New Zealand we are part of in a few years’ time.
    …but ultimately, values and ideas are what ground me.</blockquote

    But the Greens email mentioned above this called Divisive

    I wanted to share with you my biggest concern about the future of Aotearoa: that changing National’s leadership won’t change their political position and they will keep their same failed policies.
    That is why, regardless of the National’s leadership, we have a job to do – keep thinking ahead – and pushing for policies that bring us together.

    By changing their leadership, we risk National doubling down on their detrimental policies while deflecting from their failures. We can’t let this happen. We’ve worked hard to undo their broken systems but still have so much more to do.

    If one is divisive so its the other, doubling down as ‘scathing AND divisive’
    However it would be a good characterization to say the Muller piece was strewing rose petals

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  23rd May 2020

    Greens need to be worried that some of their soft suburban wives might defect to a more cuddly gently green father figure.

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    • Gezza

       /  23rd May 2020

      Golriz? They don’t come much *softer*.

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    • Duker

       /  23rd May 2020

      A few videos of TM rarking up the farmers over clean water and climate change will knock the legs out on that little bon mot.

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  4. artcroft

     /  23rd May 2020

    The Greens have only one policy. Keep National form govt. Todd could offer them the fisheries portfolio, but they’d take Winston and the erasing of the Kermadec marine sanctuary. Todd could offer them Carbon emissions caps but they’d take Winnie and his race course. Green frauds, one and all.

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  5. Matt Couldrey

     /  24th May 2020

    As a green party member I’d love to see the green party as the green voice for any government red or blue. We could be in every government from now on as the minsters who tackle green issues.

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    • As sometimes Green supporter I’d also prefer to see the party willing to work with any other party in Government – if they showed this willingness more I’d be more likely to vote for them.

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    • Gezza

       /  24th May 2020

      That might mean shifting focus back to Green/environmental issues. There’s better competition for the social justice & Maori voters.

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