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  1. Duker

     /  23rd May 2020

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/significant-error-treasury-reveals-much-lower-jobkeeper-use-20200522-p54vkl.html
    “instead of supporting 6.5 million workers and costing $130 billion over six months, it was now expected to support 3.5 million people and cost the budget $70 billion.

    Significant error made in Australia about how many people being supported by tyhe Job Keeper wage subsidy
    Its under half the numbers that were previously used ( not estimates) but what companies had indicated . Seems to have been a bad online form design where many small employers put in number of employees at 1500 which was the fortnightly subsidy instead ( they had 1 worker , which made it stand out more)
    NZs numbers were ( Aprl 10)
    Paid subsidies had gone to 1,236,875 employees and 185,909 self employed for a shorter period 12 weeks . [Including a little Paihia Artistes Shoppe]

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    • Yes, we all know how you resent Alan’s success and have to try to bring him down. There’s no need to keep repeating it.

      Artiste and artist are not synonyms in English.

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  2. Gerrit

     /  23rd May 2020

    Joe Biden having his “deplorables” moment. He at least made his before the campaign has even started, Clinton waited till at the crucial moment of the campaign.

    No wonder Trump will get elected again if this is the Democratic nomination at his best/worst.

    To a mainly black listening audience “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black”.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/22/joe-biden-breakfast-club-interview-274490

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    • Duker

       /  23rd May 2020

      “during which co-host Charlamagne tha God challenged Biden …..” What a pretentious nonsense

      Republicans are outraged , outraged I tell you , as their candidate has prefect recall and a dictionary mind, and a business and scientific genius to boot.
      Herbert Hoover too, was a one term President who never held any previous elected office and presided over a massive increase in unemployment……. draw your own conclusions

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    • Another fake controversy. Maybe you should ask people who matter, Gerritt. Try this on for size:

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    • and where was your pearl-clutching yesterday, Gerritt, when Trump praised “the good bloodlines” of well-known anti-semite Henry Ford?

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      • Pink David

         /  23rd May 2020

        Ishmael, those are your pearls to clutch. I’m sure Gerritt would not want to culturally appropriate that from you.

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        • It’s just another shabby campaign hatched by conservative scum to taint Joe Biden

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          • Pink David

             /  23rd May 2020

            No one needs to hatch anything to taint Biden. It’s all in plain view.

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            • Duker

               /  23rd May 2020

              Reade is sinking fast….seems to be a serial fabricator…..as he sets his trap for the first mouse to comment

            • Pink David

               /  23rd May 2020

              A serial fabricator makes an allegation about sexual misconduct!

              Well, that throws the #believeallwomen crowd a curve ball. How will they resolve this I wonder?

      • aaaand just two hours ago Trump tweeted an attack on the first African American editor of the New York Times (Dean Baquet) by calling him dumb.

        I’m sure there will be days of furore in the Gerritt-house over this, right?

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        • Pink David

           /  23rd May 2020

          Trump attacking the NYT’s? Fuck, that has never happened before!

          It must be because he is black.

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        • Gezza

           /  23rd May 2020

          The loon calls anyone who disagrees or questions him dumb. Has he told him to go back to Africa yet?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  23rd May 2020

          The subtle distinction between telling all black people they are a disgrace to their race if they don’t vote for you and telling a political media enemy he is a jerk seems to escape you.

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  3. Gezza

     /  23rd May 2020

    imgflip’s home page when I used their meme generator earlier 😐

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  23rd May 2020

    Meanwhile over on Kiwiblog
    The king is dead, long live another king(did you see what i did there) 🙂
    “Jacinda is fluff.
    Todd is a substance.
    Your choice New Zealand”
    What do the female national voters think??…same old same old.another old white stale male

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    • That stale, pale male is a cliche whose time is long gone. It’s old and tired. Let it go.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  23rd May 2020

      Plenty of pale stale females in politics, Lurch. Take your pick.

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      • Gezza

         /  23rd May 2020

        No. Forget your pick. Take your trowel, Lurchy. You’re probably gonna be laying it on thick.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  23rd May 2020

          PG today when i took my dogs for their daily walk up at our happy place and i tried your speed test, PG your mayors 10km speed limit,Corky i reinserted my chompers and slowed my X trail scooter down to 10 km( i couldnt drive at that slow speed)but Corky my SUV scooter has CVT and creeps along at 10 KM so a thought for Todd Muller??,1000s of unemployed Dunediners waving RED FLAGS(employment) as your car dies from internal haemorrhage
          PG your mayor is an idiot,PG try driving at 10KM, harder to do than getting through to the righties here,they are thick,10 km is impossible

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          • Gezza

             /  23rd May 2020

            Forget the trowel, neighbour. You need a square shovel by the look of it.

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  5. Another nail in the coffin for Hydroxochloroquine as a miracle Covid cure: data from more than 96,000 patients with confirmed Covid-19 from 671 hospitals. All were hospitalized from late December to mid-April, and had died or been discharged by April 21.

    – 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

    – 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

    – 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

    – 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31174-0/fulltext

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    • Gezza

       /  23rd May 2020

      What’s Trump been chucking down his gullet?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  23rd May 2020

        Hydroxychloroqine, antibiotic and zinc it was reported. Still a big randomised trial going on in the UK.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  23rd May 2020

          I should have said the UK trial is as a preventative, not a treatment, which is how Trump is apparently using it. (And how it is deployed against malaria?)

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        • Duker

           /  23rd May 2020

          Trump has moved on from it as a ‘treatment when you have Covid 19’ to taking it as a preventer for people who dont have the virus.
          Who knows if that method is even ‘testable’

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          • That’s a triumph for right-wing quackery and the conspiracy-loving scum from the fringes of American conservatism

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          • Well, yes, Duker. The only way to know would be to expose them to it, which is unlikely to be popular.

            If someone was dying of it, they might well be willing to try it as a treatment, of course, as they’d have nothing to lose.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  23rd May 2020

              No, it is being offered to UK NHS staff in a large randomised trial as they have the greatest exposure.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  23rd May 2020

      Before you cite those figures you need to qualify them as the paper did by pointing out there were differences in the severity of illness between the groups. Allowing for that if possible at all would modify the numbers.

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  6. Jack MW

     /  23rd May 2020

    Ah, blessed democracy! However, it doesn’t inoculate us against the cult effect. How sweet of media to show the lovely image of Mr Bridges supported at work by his toddler. Same as Ms Ardern – a kind, family oriented strong leader, Mr Bridges revealing his graciousness upon departure – and National now have another cult adherent as leader.
    Cults abound in New Zealand – and none of us believe that we could succumb to the inside lie. Even after individually being spat out at the bottom of a cult slide, many of us are too proud to admit we were tricked, or born, into a cult.
    In a new book called “Haka on the Pew”, Jack MW explores the phenomena of cult trickery. The book is available privately by contacting jckmargaret@gmail.com

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  7. Gezza

     /  23rd May 2020

    So, anyway, enuf about Todd.

    What about her?

    Has to fill in for her leader at Question Time when both leaders seem to be absent on Thursdays. Improvement on Paula?

    Don’t really know that much about her. Hope we get to see some Questions from her to Jacinda. I think of them as rivals & she must’ve had her nose put out of joint when, IIRC, she once was airily dismissive of Jacinda for not winning her seat (or something) & then

    WHAM!

    Winston made Jacinda Pry Minisda. 😎

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    • Gezza

       /  23rd May 2020

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    • Corky

       /  23rd May 2020

      It’s a possibility. It’s not the sheeple that will be the problem…it will be people with half a brain to think. What better way to capture those thinkers then by using a reasonable pretext?😔

      Quote:

      ”Would You Volunteer to Have a Microchip Implanted by Your Employer?

      Yes, I like the convenience of having a microchip in my hand 6 %

      No, I would not volunteer 32 %

      **I would not get a microchip in my hand, but I would wear a wristband or ring with the chip 57 %**

      Maybe, I would have to see how it worked with other employees first 4 %”

      https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/microchip-employees-us-company/3967947.html

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