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  1. Gezza

     /  27th May 2020

    Wellington CBD be a ghost town for months as office workers stay home

    Thousands of public servants are working from home for what could be months, stifling any post-lockdown pick-up for central Wellington businesses.

    Dot Loves Data government director Justin Lester, Wellington’s former mayor, said nobody could be certain when things would return to normal but, even then, many offices were looking at having staff working from home two or three days per week.

    This could easily last the rest of the year – and for some permanently.
    On average, 40,000 people commuted to the central city daily. If this dropped by one-third, there would be ramifications for the city – be it cheaper rent for businesses, some closing, and others moving to smaller cities such as Porirua or the suburbs.

    But the central city’s loss is already paying off for satellite centres such as Kāpiti, Porirua, and Hutt Valley – all which have seen a big boost in spending as people stay local.

    Porirua had seen a 29.3 percent increase in consumer spending compared to the same time in 2019, while Upper Hutt was up 26.2 per cent, Kapiti was up 14.9 per cent, and Masterton was up 24.5 per cent.

    Wellington Chamber of Commerce chief executive John Milford said it was impossible to say when things would return to normal, and it was hard to tell if a drop to Level 1 – a month away at least – would allow offices to open fully. “I think the new norm will definitely see more people working from home than the old norm did.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/121624973/wellington-cbd-may-remain-a-ghost-town-for-months-as-civil-servants-stay-home

    I was in there yesterday, briefly, for a visit to the endodontist. It’s quite strange to be in Wellington at the moment; definitely has that ghost town look & feel. It’s usually packed with people & vibrant.

    But, ever since I retired early, I rarely go there. Pretty well everything I need or want to do in Wellington city I can do out here in Tawa or in the excellent Porirua shopping precincts, mega centre, & main mall less – than 10 minutes drive away.

    It’s easy to get there, & to get around, by car, bus, train and / or on foot. And there’s tons of parking & it’s all free.

    No doubt there’ll be advantages to working from home for many; being away from office nitwits & psychopaths & infernal office politics, for 3 things.

    But I imagine most CEOs and managers will want to have their staff back in their offices asap – where they’re on tap when needed to attend their meetings, tell them they’re brilliant, fetch their lunches & get them out of trouble. 😎

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    • Gezza

       /  27th May 2020

      Whoops

      *Wellington CBD could be a ghost town….

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    • lurcher1948

       /  27th May 2020

      I live 8 km from Wellington but refuse to pay the absorbent parking charges so spend my money out at Porirua or the Hutt.The last time we went in was the hospital visit last week.

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      • Gezza

         /  27th May 2020

        Think the word you probably wanted was exorbitant but I agree entirely about the parking fee robbery, neighbour. 👍🏼

        Plus, you often can’t even FIND a car park near where you have to go & have to go into some scungy parking building where the odd alky or dodgy characters can hang out.

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        • Gezza

           /  27th May 2020

          The last time we went in was the hospital visit last week.

          And don’t get me started about trying to find a car park at Wellington Hospital & Wilson bloody Carparking’s exorbitant charges; if you’re there all day some people just couldn’t afford it. I think it’s outrageous requiring a fee to enrich some private company to park your car in a public hospital.

          I call it The Caring Fine.

          It’s got worse since they started building the new Children’s Hospital & the outside overflow parks disappeared.

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          • Corky

             /  27th May 2020

            Wilsons are doing hard time. They are advertising on talkback. Maybe karma has caught up with them.

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            • Gezza

               /  27th May 2020

              Shudder to think what they’ll ramp their charges up to to try & keep the CEO in caviar & champagne & stop the shareholders fleeing.

        • lurcher1948

           /  27th May 2020

          👍Thanks Gezza hard to believe English is my only language

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          • Absorbent might not be a bad word in the circs. The machines are absorbing money like sponges.

            Hamilton has had 2 hours free CBD parking for ages, and what’s really nice is that if someone moves they take what’s left to the new park.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  27th May 2020

    Mr Muller,leader of a party of white lawyer’s seems to sweat alot when questioned on tv 1&3 and also seems to be lacking in policy details.”I dont think he’s the one” stolen from the matrix

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  27th May 2020

    Working from home bureaucrats sounds like another big hit to productivity while everyone has to get their sign off to do anything.

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  4. At last Twitter appears to be growing a small pair.

    They’ve added a warning label to Trump’s tweets ranting against mail-in voting — the first time they’ve ever done this to a message from imPOTUS. But they wouldn’t need any warning labels if they had any morals. They’d just shut down the damn account.

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1265330601034256384

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    • Pink David

       /  27th May 2020

      Who are the expert?

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    • Pink David

       /  27th May 2020

      The NYT doesn’t like Trump either. You must be friends.

      “Twitter Must Cleanse the Trump Stain
      The president is spreading a vile conspiracy theory on the platform. Maybe Twitter should finally hold him to its rules.”

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  5. Gezza

     /  27th May 2020

    Picked up all of ma’s effects when finally released by the Rest Home – from an isolated off storeroom with easy external access from which they could have been perfectly safely collected the day after she passed away.

    Administrator (who is quite a nice lady, overworked): “You might need to check in the bags first. Is that all her stuff, Gez?”

    Me: “Yep, this is all hers. The remote’s in here. Where’s her tv? And where’s her walker?”

    Administrator: “Ooh. I don’t know. Did she have a tv & a walker? Look, come in Gez, have a look around; there’s a couple of other bags in here too. I don’t know whose items they are, the bags don’t say.”

    Me: “Ok, that stuff’s not hers … and … that stuff’s not hers. I think all her clothes & personal effects seem to be in those two bags I just loaded. Just need her tv & Zimmer frame walker. The tv wasn’t attached to a wall bracket; it was free-standing on her dresser. It’s a Samsung”.

    Administrator: “Ok, you drive back round to the main entrance & I’ll see if I can find them.”

    Got everything soon afterward. The tv was still in her room. The walker I think had been put in their equipment room. They assumed it was theirs & didn’t check; it had her name on it. Left after our usual exchange of pleasantries, very attractive woman, never does any harm.

    With their setup, there just was absolutely no good reason I couldn’t have picked those effects up weeks ago.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  27th May 2020

      Insanity is more contagious than the virus, G. Renders the afflicted completely unable to think for themselves.

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      • Gezza

         /  27th May 2020

        I suspect the manager who is new & was already struggling to cope with the size of the operation & Head Office penny-pinching before Covid-19 had the additional sudden impact of all the changing rules & advisories, trying to keep staff & relatives informed of everything relevant, working out how to set up video calling etc etc – was just too scared to breach edicts from the Health Bureacracy.

        When you can’t take the risk of allowing people to use their judgement & just specify relevant requirements because there are a few idiots & foreigners or whoever who might not observe them to the letter – some bureaucrats just make blanket rules that prevent anyone from using their judgement.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  27th May 2020

          Nothing prevents anyone from using their judgement except their own mindset, G.

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          • Gezza

             /  27th May 2020

            Correction then:

            * some bureaucrats just make blanket rules that prevent anyone from exercising their judgement.

            Fear of punishment is a very effective tool for most people.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th May 2020

              Having used your judgement the question of how to exercise it becomes a test of morality, intelligence and leadership. You can choose to be helpless or not.

  6. Griff.

     /  27th May 2020

    Any one know what this truck is and why it is significant?

    Hint .
    All the worlds most respected Special op’s forces started here .

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  27th May 2020

    Watching question time parliament today, National seems to consist of natural/bottle blondes and bald headed old white guys and let’s not forget the mullets, Muller and Bishop,
    PS im proud at 71 that i have a mane over mullet whats his name…the coup leader
    PG…..its your call,i wasnt personal and another point as a 71 yo male i had a NUMBER 2 yesterday haircut…if you have it grow it

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  8. The idiocy of the L2 rules is personified by the having to sign in in some places and not others. The library insists on it, and as they know me there’s no point in signing in as Elizabeth Windsor, London or Mrs Tiggywinkle. But why them and caffs and not shops ? There’s no sense in it. Nor is there any sense in being able to sit at tables inside but not on benches outside. Only one person can sit on each bus seat, but one is nothing like 2m from the person behind.

    Winston P wants us to go to L2 now. I agree. Jacinda is grimacing and twitching when she talks about it.

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    • Gezza

       /  27th May 2020

      Re Winston, I know you meant L1.
      At least I’ve finally been able to organise the families’ memorial gathering at ma’s place.

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      • Ooops, yes I did mean L1. What a mistake-a to make-a.

        FINALLY. the memorial meeting is happening. What a relief. I hope that you will ignore the no refreshments rule and at least have coffee and bikkies.

        I wonder what excuse Dear Leader will try to use to keep us at L2 indefinitely. It’s totally impracticable. People can’t stay 2m apart all the time. Imagine it at pedestrian crossings if there are a lot of people there.

        Can’t she SEE what she’s done to the economy ?

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  9. Gezza

     /  27th May 2020

    US cops kill another unarmed black man, provoking civil unrest.

    “Four Minneapolis police officers who were involved in the arrest of a black man who died in police custody were fired today”

    Very disturbing video of the incident shown on 1News at 6 tonight. Cop kneeling on his neck, bystanders notice he’s not breathing. Paramedics attending took his pulse, never told the policeman to stop kneeling on his neck.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/cant-breathe-confronting-video-shows-us-cop-kneeling-mans-neck-before-he-dies-in-custody

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