Government will wait to make next decision despite only 1 live Covid-case

Yesterday’s Ministry of health Covid-19 update showed that there have been no new cases for a week, and that there is now only now only case that is still ‘active’ (and that may have been active for a month so is nowhere near new).

But Grant Robertson says the Government will still wait a week and a half before making any decision about changing the current Level 2 restrictions.

On Monday Jacinda Ardern said that Cabinet would only re-evaluate Level 2 restrictions in two weeks time – that’s on 8 June, and a change to Level 1 may not happen for up to four weeks (to 22 June).

NZ Herald: Only one active case, but Grant Robertson won’t be drawn on lifting level 2 restrictions

New Zealand has just one active Covid-19 case today — but Finance Minister Grant Robertson refuses to be drawn on the possibility of lifting restrictions earlier than expected.

Robertson said New Zealand had done “incredibly well” in the fight against Covid-19.

The Government was flexible and would review alert level settings on June 8, he said, and reiterated Cabinet would look at moving to level 1 no later than June 22.

But he would not commit to action when asked whether having only one active case made it more likely that Cabinet might consider whether New Zealand was ready to move to level 1 earlier.

“The worst thing of all would be for New Zealand to move backwards again,” he told a media conference in Wellington.

No one wants to go back to Level 4, or even Level 3. But if people see ongoing restrictions as unjustified and ignore them, and don’t take seriously and future restrictions that poses greater risks.

The Government had wide and strong public support when we went into lockdown in March. But as the apparent dangers from Covid quickly reduced the public has tended to relax more quickly that Government restrictions were lifted.

There appears to be virtually no threat now. If the Government keeps restrictions on despite this they risk losing public support, which is likely to lead to people pushing boundaries or ignoring restrictions more.

Headlines like this from the ODT yesterday don’t help:  Police allowed gang tangi

Police allowed dozens of people to gather for the tangi of a Black Power member in Dunedin during lockdown.

As many as 50 people waited in a car park outside a funeral home for the tangi on April 30, blocked roads and later gathered at a gang pad, documents released to the Otago Daily Times under the Official Information Act show.

Many had travelled from outside Dunedin for the event.

Despite the breaches, police said in an internal email ‘‘trying to stop it will only create a worse situation for all’’.

There’s a real risk that if the Government is too cautious and pedantic in trying to prevent any cases at all it will create a worse situation if there is a second wave, and the public don’t care about restrictions that may be applied again and ignore them.

With next to no cases in the country now the public is largely moving forward while the Government retains restrictions and holds back business and employment.

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38 Comments

  1. David

     /  30th May 2020

    Went for a drink last night and went to the bar to get it, had to go to the Warehouse (not for me) and it was jam packed, had 4 trades on one site at the same time. The rules are being ignored because people assess there is near zero risk.
    Now let me explain what is going on. Firstly Ardern wants the international headline and we just have to tag along. Secondly the example yesterday of the huge dollop of cash to the arts, Ardern is making people grateful to her and dependent on her with promises of large amounts of taxpayer funds in a very non specific ways. She wont spend that like she wont spend the 400 million in tourism. Its deeply cynical and she is using psychology to win the election by exploiting Covid 19.
    The dumbasses in opposition have yet to figure this out.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  30th May 2020

      Yes, the Nats are disgracefully missing in action. The country is buggered for a long time.

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    • Gezza

       /  30th May 2020

      Social distancing rules have already gone by the wayside in lots of situations, from my obersvations. People obey them more or less in queues & in shops where they’re asked to, but otherwise I see lots of mingling. Folk are starting to relax around this one.

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    • I think that National are fully aware of the situation, but there’s not much that they can do if Dear Leader has determined that we will be free when she says so and not until then. She is exploiting the danger, which was never great. She has to in the hope that people won’t work out that it was the old sledgehammer and nut situation. She has to keep congratulating us on the sacrifices that we made, but which were forced on us. We didn’t make the sacrifices, we were the sacrifices.

      Cafes are ignoring the 2m rules. Why is 1m acceptable in some places and not in others ?

      The rules are inane.

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    • David, I went to the Warehouse for dog treats ($10 a kg and the dog loves them) and saw two people buying a bed. It was physically impossible for the staff member who was helping them to be 2m away from them. It’s physically impossible to keep the 2m rule in most shops, I think.

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    • Gezza

       /  30th May 2020

      Ee…yep!

      1News at 6 item one was the spreading riots & unrest in the US, with videos. With a facile warning from Melissa Stokes that some scenes may be upsetting to some people, especially children – though I saw nothing that would do that.

      But the item that followed – on the first weekend day of relaxed Level 2 rules, & 100 person gatherings, was instructive. Scene after scene of crowds of young people at parties, arms around each other, & at bars, & on city footpaths, all milling about or sitting at tables as close to each other as they’ve ever been.

      The reporter mentioned police were happy enuf with the relaxed rules, but reminded everyone about the importance of social distancing. Just wasted on most people, obviously, especially the young.

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      • Duker

         /  30th May 2020

        Social distancing is only required for people you don’t know, and for a bar with a register of people it’s 1m min (not 2m)
        Clearly a group of say 15 people at 3 tables pushed together and close as possible is not outside the rules when they know each other.

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        • Gezza

           /  30th May 2020

          TV1 – I’m watching Six60 Live at Western Springs on it right now. (Very good – I’m jealous.)
          Social distancing there? Forget it – the crowd’s jam packed together – and loving it!

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          • Gezza

             /  30th May 2020

            Altho this might be from earlier this year. Not sure yet. Gonna check it out.

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            • Gezza

               /  30th May 2020

              Yes – this is their Feb 22 2020 Concert, I think. That would explain the size of the crowd & complete absence of anybody social distancing.

        • The 2m rule is still being plugged and there are marks on the floors of shops and malls to show what 2m looks like. It’s huge. How would anyone prove that one doesn’t know the person next to them ?

          I can’t see why it’s 2m in some places and not others; it’s senseless. If 1m is safe in one place, it’s safe everywhere else.

          Our library has the outer dunny door wedged open. No coherent reason is given, of course. One still has to touch the inner door.

          ‘A mad world, my masters.’

          and

          ‘There is a pleasure, sure, in being mad, which none but madmen know.’ (Dryden, The Spanish Friar)

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  2. David

     /  30th May 2020

    The cost of not getting out of all levels- wanted to take her indoors to Auckland next weekend and she said she isnt going anywhere until we are out of this thing, why spend money and have who knows what sort of restrictions when you go away.
    KInda makes sense but thats 2k minimum not spent.

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  3. Geoffrey

     /  30th May 2020

    The police inaction over repeated lawlessness by gang members is deeply disturbing. Not only do they now lack the capacity to deal with more than a few at any one time, they lack the will. Perhaps the police are also being subject to political pressure to ignore this looming disaster.

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    • I think that they are in an impossible position. They are expected to arrest people for what wasn’t a crime before the PM made it one. They either have to be very unpopular with Dear Leader or with the public.

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      • Geoffrey

         /  30th May 2020

        Police would not be unpopular with the public if they arrested gang members breaking the law en masse. Might not suit DL but any active response from her would serve to out the political pressure. Police are not in an impossible position, just an uncomfortable one.

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  4. Pink David

     /  30th May 2020

    You can always rely on the Russians to tell the truth.

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  5. Pink David

     /  30th May 2020

    For the UK SAGE committee of ‘experts’. Closing the boarder makes fuck all difference.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  30th May 2020
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    • Fight4nz

       /  30th May 2020

      As in lays a cable?

      Jingoistic Aussie bs is a credible source?

      Interesting the point about our woeful productivity rates. No mention that a major factor has been Australian regional management systematic dismantling of our manufacturing sector simply to save their own skins and keep their pathetically underperforming plants open.
      But don’t worry its business and you know businessmen always act purely in the interest of better business. They wouldn’t just pan a government just because it isn’t full of mates they can use to cut corners and line each other’s pockets. John Key got any more heavily discounted houses – I could go for one.

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  7. If the latest Covid death is actually acknowleged NOT to have been one by the MoH who decided to count it as one anyway, does this mean that any death of someone who’s had it and recovered will count as a Covid death regardless of the actual cause ?

    Someone who’s had it and recovered dies in an accident or drowns or dies of cancer will be counted as a Covid death by this standard.

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    • Duker

       /  30th May 2020

      They took a week to announce it and the 90 yr had been buried by then. They clearly didnt rush in. Sound like they were analysing the situation and very unlikely to remove from the numbers. Cause of death is never a perfect situation at that age.

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  8. duperez

     /  30th May 2020

    The ranges of views amply demonstrated in one little corner of the media:

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    • Pink David

       /  30th May 2020

      “Covid 19 coronavirus: Top expert dismisses calls to move to alert level 1 as ‘ignorant'”

      This is the same guy who was saying NZ should stay at level 4 for 4 more weeks.

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      • Fight4nz

         /  30th May 2020

        It is? Then have to agree he is a tosser.
        Smacks of laboratory level results wanted in real world context.
        No, I am not being sarcastic.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  31st May 2020

        Skeggs. If the headline is accurate he’s an arrogant twit.

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  9. Gerrit

     /  30th May 2020

    These looters and rioters in the USA will prove once and for all that a lock down to stem the spread of Covid 19 was actually worth while. For these closely intermingled crowds must surely be susceptible to catching and spreading the virus near and far. If they don’t then any lock down was a waste of time and money. Perverse logic. If they do spread the virus than I know who will get the blame. Trumpy; left right and centre.

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  10. How appalling; 4 mothers died during or after labour during the lockdown as opposed to 1 in the last 3 years, it seemed to be in one Auckland hospital. But if the lockdown was in any way to blame, that is hideous.

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    • Duker

       /  30th May 2020

      3 died during/after child birth IN the Hospital.
      How is that because of the lockdown…just goes to show how the risks during any operation ( it seems that 2 or more had cesareans)

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      • I said ‘if’. One father was not kept informed and was only let to see his dying wife right at the end.

        If the hospital resources were being held for the onslaught of Covid victims who never came, that is unacceptable. 4 in such a short time as opposed to 1 in 3 years is a large increase,

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  11. Pink David

     /  30th May 2020

    I’m shocked these people have completely disregarded social distancing.

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