USA – burning from the bottom, flaming from the top

As the smouldering from the bottom of US society erupts into riots and burning, again, about all they get from the top is blaming and flaming on Twitter from a flaming idiot.

Evidence that there’s a fine line between a civil society and anarchy is apparent in the United States of America who show society there is far from united. Another police killing of a black man has precipitated days of riots across the country, again. Nothing much seems to have changed since the last time, and the time before.

One of the most divisive presidents ever has talked tough but is largely impotent. People with long standing grievances and opportunist anarchists and if some claims are correct countries trying to incite mayhem couldn’t care less what a twit on Twitter says.

Order from anarchy?

The circle-A is almost certainly the best-known present-day symbol for anarchy. It is a monogram that consists of the capital letter “A” surrounded by the capital letter “O”.

The letter “A” is derived from the first letter of “anarchy” or “anarchism” in most European languages and is the same in both Latin and Cyrillic scripts. The “O” stands for order and together they stand for “society seeks order in anarchy” (French: la société cherche l’ordre dans l’anarchie), a phrase written by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon in his 1840 book What Is Property?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

I haven’t seen any sort of order emerge from riots and anarchical outbursts, and Donald trump certainly doesn’t seem capable of doing anything to repair the damage he has done in three and a half years let alone centuries of racism and oppression.

Of course there’s no justification in opportunist looting and destruction of property, but it’s what happens when authority is challenged and put under severe pressure.

As usual blame has been spread across the political spectrum. It’s a complex situation with many emotions and motivations involved, but it’s normal for humans to blame people or groups they don’t like for problems and ignore or make excuses for those they are sympathetic to.

The greatest blamer and divider ever is as bad as ever.

Blaming everything on ‘the media’ is getting lamer, and calling oneself GREAT on Twitter doesn’t make oneself so, especially when his country is in chaos.

Perhaps trump thinks that media shouldn’t have reported on another killing by cop. the media didn’t kneel on a handcuffed defenceless man’s neck for up to eight minutes, until he died.

“The World is watching and laughing at you…” is typical flaming and blaming, but at this time I don’t think the world is laughing even at Trump, more like shaking their collective head in despair at how poorly a supposedly strong nation deals with this crap.

In the short term force of law will prevail, but it is unlikely that anything much will be resolved, especially with the moral vacuum at the top.

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  1. More than 100,000 Americans dead, the highest unemployment since the Depression, America in flames, the national guard deployed…

    Trump and his cronies have offered no constructive response to any of the monumental crises in America. They’ve just fanned the flames.

    Trump isn’t running the government of the United States. He doesn’t manage anything. He doesn’t organize anyone. He doesn’t administer or oversee or supervise. He hasn’t shown an ounce of interest in governing. He obsesses only about himself. His advisers aren’t truth-tellers. They’re just toadies, lackeys, sycophants, and relatives – a bunch of carny barkers and grifters.

    Make America Great Again is a sick hoax.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st June 2020

      Irrelevant since Trump has no responsibility for any of this. The police forces and authorities are all local. Why distract from where actual responsibility lies?

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    • Gezza

       /  1st June 2020

      rouge
      1. a red powder or cream used as a cosmetic for colouring the cheeks or lips.
      “she wore patches of rouge on her cheeks”
      2. short for jeweller’s rouge.

      rogue
      1. a dishonest or unprincipled man.
      “you are a rogue and an embezzler”

      Just saying, Ishmael. For anyone here who might constantly get this one wrong & may be able to quietly learn from it this time.

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      • Excuse me Gezza but that’s Corky’s spelling mistake, not mine. Your “fact-checking” is just pathetic

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        • Gezza

           /  1st June 2020

          I do very little fact checking of your posts; a lot of them I don’t read as the subject matter is invariably Trump bashing. But when I do I point out that the fact is you’re wrong, that you don’t like it & want to stick with an incorrect allegation about Trump, who I loathe, doesn’t persuade me or probably anyone that you’re right.

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        • Rouge is French for red.

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          • Corky

             /  1st June 2020

            Nonsense..it’s to do with Canadian Football( scurries away to check thing out)😃

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      • Corky

         /  1st June 2020

        Yes, thanks. But, apart from the petty minded, I doubt anyone is interested. If it worries you that much please ask Pete for a correction to my post.🤔

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        • Gezza

           /  1st June 2020

          Well, like I say, if some ignorant person too lazy to check a dictionary & too egotistical to stop using the wrong word learns not to keep advertising they’re like that, my work will not be in vain. Not mentioning anyone in particular.

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          • Corky

             /  1st June 2020

            That’s better. Ishmael should know you would never call him out on grammar. Great exchange though. A master piece.

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            • Gezza

               /  1st June 2020

              I din’t like to hurt people’s feelings, Corks.
              Unless they thoroughly deserve it.

            • Gezza

               /  1st June 2020

              🙄
              *don’t

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  1st June 2020

              Corky’s had rogue wrong before. The one I usually need two tries at is gauge. Separately is another that a lot of people get wrong.

            • Gezza

               /  1st June 2020

              @ Al. Yep. I often have to retype gauge, spelling it properly this time. Sequitur I often have to check. And there’s another word I use reasonably frequently but nearly always have to google check – though now I can’t blimmin remember it. It’ll come to me…

              Not easy being a Leo-Virgo cuspal.

            • Corky

               /  1st June 2020

              Recieve.

            • Corky

               /  1st June 2020

              I forget the ditty: I before E except after C..

            • Gezza

               /  1st June 2020

              I’ve just remembered. That word I always have trouble spelling is manoeuvre, & the various tenses of it. I even spelt it wrong just then but did a spell-check before posting this comment.

              That oeu combo is pretty unusual. Mind you, it looks like a French word – & they can’t spell for nuts.

      • As in vein, heinous, being and seeing.

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      “They’ve just fanned the flames.”

      You really are shameless. The media have been fanning the flames of this relentlessly. Russians, Covid is the end of the world, now race war. And you have celebrated this bullshit every step of the way.

      Until Covid minorities in the US were seeing the best economic progress for decades. No great surprise it is people like you who have been so desperate to burn it down. You just want your slaves back.

      The framing of a US General, which you cheered to the rafters, an attempted coup against the sitting President. Locking people in their homes for no reason other than to exert power and using fear as their weapon.

      There will be a reckoning.

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  2. David

     /  1st June 2020

    [Deleted, don’t repeat Trump flaming] Joe Biden calls for the end to the looting and violence while his campaign staff donate bail money for the looters.
    Lets conveniently ignore the numerous times this happened when he was VP and people hit the streets and zero was done by his administration.

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    • Corky

       /  1st June 2020

      Joe is asleep at the wheel again. Someone needs to wake him up and remind him he’s running president… and that it’s June 2020.

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      • duperez

         /  1st June 2020

        I think that is a contribution of pure art.

        It encapsulates pervasive click bait vacuous sloganeering. It minimises reality and intrudes as a conductor points the baton at a percussionist who on call bangs the tambourine.

        It depicts a conductor, someone passing by with a found stick wandering in and onto a podium, waving the stick and finding someone whose life will be fulfilled by getting a noise out of the instrument in their hand.

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        • Corky

           /  1st June 2020

          Very profound, Duperez. If you don’t mind, I will stick with my vacuous sloganeering.
          Of course, if Joe misses becoming the Democrats presidential nomination…or he runs for president and loses to Trump, then what I have written will have substance, while your chaotic orchestral assemblage will be panned by the critics for being just that… a chaotic orchestral assemblage. 🙄

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          • Gezza

             /  1st June 2020
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          • duperez

             /  1st June 2020

            Biden might lose by 19 million personal votes and by 92 votes in the Electoral College. Will that disguise or give substance to someone trotting out ‘Joe is asleep at the wheel again’ as a sort of childish poking out of the tongue?

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            • Corky

               /  1st June 2020

              See Gezza’s post above on how this situation should be handled.
              Oh, and Duperez, do try and stay in tune.

    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      “Joe Biden calls for the end to the looting and violence while his campaign staff donate bail money for the looters.”

      Don’t stress too much about this. People donating money to these looters does open them up to legal liability for the damage done.

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      • “while his campaign staff donate bail money for the looters”

        Evidence of this?

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        • David

           /  1st June 2020

          Reuters:
          WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city’s police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.
          Reuters:
          At least 13 Biden campaign staff members posted on Twitter on Friday and Saturday that they made donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which opposes the practice of cash bail, or making people pay to avoid pre-trial imprisonment. The group uses donations to pay bail fees in Minneapolis.

          Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement to Reuters that the former vice president opposes the institution of cash bail as a “modern day debtors prison.”

          But the campaign declined to answer questions on whether the donations were coordinated within the campaign, underscoring the politically thorny nature of the sometimes violent protests.

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          • That’s not evidence at all of providing bail for looters or arsonists.

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            • David

               /  1st June 2020

              Yes it is. They have publicly boasted of donating money to an organisation that pays the bail money for people arrested during the Minneapolis riots, its on their Twitter feeds.
              Just because there is a 3rd party doesnt make it untrue. Do they have to physically fly to Minnesota and post the bail in person…of course not.
              Bidens campaign benefits from rioting so the campaign is facilitating it and endorsing it while Joe quietly condemns it. He picks up the Bernie vote and keeps the appalled housewife vote, dirty and cynical but its a Democrat so that is fine.

            • “an organisation that pays the bail money for people arrested during the Minneapolis riots”

              You said “looters”, still no evidence.

              “Bidens campaign benefits from rioting”

              That’s highly debatable and you’ve provided nothing that supports the assertion.

              “so the campaign is facilitating it and endorsing it”

              That’s a very long bow, again with nothing to support your claim.

              It would be just as easy to say that Trump’s campaign will benefit from the riots and getting tough on them (or sounding tough), but it’s impossible to know what the outcome and political effect will end up being at this stage.

  3. Gerrit

     /  1st June 2020

    The people are answering the looters by the best means possible. All the power to those who wield the brooms. Democrats not winning friends when the clean up is as spontaneous as the imbecile rioters. https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/community-cleans-up-minneapolis-after-george-floyd-protests/89-b6c813db-8c56-4176-ad16-e16df3868796

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    • Corky

       /  1st June 2020

      What saddens me is the number of black folk not in that clean-up detail. It’s a little like Aotearoa. Maori tell us how they are guardians of this and that. How they have suffered from this and that…while pakeha quietly get on with the job of trying to make things better ( in a private capacity).

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  4. David

     /  1st June 2020

    Now why is it only Democrat run cities that are on fire ? Could it be that they are rubbish at running anything and just take the black vote for granted while never fixing anything.
    Policing is a state/city responsibility, it was an employee of a Democrat run city in a Democrat state that killed Floyd. The biggest anti police protests are being staged in Democrat run cities but lets all ignore the decades long problem and blame Trump.

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    • I didn’t ignore a centuries long problem that still festers and occasionally bursts out.

      Trump is obviously not to blame for most of it, but he is the current president and has some responsibilities to show some leadership, which he is utterly failing to do.

      He blames ‘the media’ for fomenting unrest and division when that’s what he has done since he became president.

      The whole US political and policing system is failing badly (it has been for yonks), and Trump is failing badly in showing a lack of leadership – he’s really the poster boy for a flailing, failing democracy.

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      • David

         /  1st June 2020

        What would you suggest a President does in these circumstances, he is not responsible for anything that is happening on the streets, he cant interfere, cant direct and is no more use than Obama with the only difference being a compliant media hailing Obama,s call for calm. Trump calls for calm and is immediately branded racist by the media which then gives free reign to the looters/rioters and absolves the local governors of their total impotency and ineffectiveness.
        The celebs are busy lining up to post bail for people burning neighbourhoods, destroying police cars, looting minority owned businesses, participating in violence but that is absolutely fine because Trump.
        Civil society is dangerously fraying but because its a convenient thing to bash Trump with then lets just ignore what is going on.

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        • “The celebs are busy lining up to post bail for people burning neighbourhoods, destroying police cars, looting minority owned businesses, participating in violence”

          You have evidence of this?

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            • I haven’t heard of those ‘celebrities’. Again no evidence that bail money is being given to looters and arsonists. And no evidence that people involved with Biden’s campaign are connected to that.

              You and others are blaming Biden for the worst of the rioting, while excusing trump for stirring things up. That’s partisan politics at it’s worst.

          • FarmerPete

             /  1st June 2020

            It’s all mover the news today. Justin Timberlake, Chrissy Teigen both announced this on their Twitter feeds. There are numerous others as well. The comments about Biden’s staff were also widely reported this am.
            Time for some fair and balanced coverage here. This continual Trump bashing is boring.

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        • Maybe you should tell Trump he shouldn’t be doing anything.

          “My administration will stop mob violence, and stop it cold,” Trump vowed on stage Saturday.

          A serious divide has emerged among Donald Trump’s top allies and advisers over how the President should address several nights of protests and riots across the nation following the death of George Floyd. Trump is being urged by some advisers to formally address the nation and call for calm, while others have said he should condemn the rioting and looting more forcefully or risk losing middle-of-the-road voters in November, according to several sources familiar with the deliberations.

          Trump has adopted an uneven message on the demonstrations. While in some appearances he has taken a measured approach in calling for calm, on Twitter he has used violent rhetoric and seemed to suggest Saturday his supporters stage a counter-protest outside the White House.

          https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/trump-protests-george-floyd/index.html

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        • duperez

           /  1st June 2020

          What is a civil society? What indicates a ‘civil’ society is dangerously fraying?
          What is ‘just ignoring what is going on?’ An array of things happen which anyone with any sense would find bewildering yet those things by and large are ignored. A bit of drama happens on the streets and people say the wheels are falling off the society. What?

          In January the Chief Justice of the USA presided over a hearing in what he called the “world’s greatest deliberative body.” The die was cast before the world’s greatest deliberative body got to work. Deliberation was not needed. People who through direct involvement had stories of events would not be heard. No deliberation of their knowledge needed. Any indication there that a civil society is dangerously fraying?

          What is just ignoring what is going on? Were the ramifications of that ignored? Nothing to see here, let’s ignore it?

          Maybe a civil society is one in which the downtrodden simply accept their lot. People standing up for their rights indicates ‘fraying.’
          …….
          ” As long ago as the 1830s it was apparent to dispassionate observers of the American Republic that “free” white American males (the only people then vested with political power) were bound to the idea of the United States with chains every bit as strong as those which burdened its black slaves. The loyalty of the poorest white farmer and/or factory worker was in large measure guaranteed by his understanding that at least two categories of human-being would always occupy a more degraded position than himself in the socio-economic hierarchy: women and blacks.

          Nowhere is this crucial political understanding more clearly spelled out than in the 1857 judgement of the Chief Justice of the United States, Roger Taney, who ruled against the legal attempt by the freed slave, Dred Scott, to secure equality of treatment under the Constitution of the United States.

          According to Taney:

          “The question is simply this: Can a negro, whose ancestors were imported into this country, and sold as slaves, become a member of the political community formed and brought into existence by the Constitution of the United States, and as such become entitled to all of the rights, and privileges, and immunities, guarantied by that instrument to the citizen?”

          The Chief Justice’s answer was an unequivocal “No”.
          “It is difficult at this day to realize the state of public opinion in relation to that unfortunate race, which prevailed in the civilized and enlightened portions of the world at the time of the Declaration of Independence, and when the Constitution of the United States was framed and adopted…. They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order…; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit.”
          Nowhere is this crucial political understanding more clearly spelled out than in the 1857 judgement of the Chief Justice of the United States, Roger Taney, who ruled against the legal attempt by the freed slave, Dred Scott, to secure equality of treatment under the Constitution of the United States.”

          http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com
          ………………………..

          Just ignore what’s going on and attack Trump for anything? How about not ignoring the root causes of what’s going on?

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  1st June 2020

            How about not ignoring the rocks and molotov cocktails being thrown at people and property in order to deliver a history lesson?

            Trump vs Obama?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  1st June 2020

        This seems to be the proper response and more directly in line with Trump’s comments than the media’s condemnation of him:
        https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/andrew-mccarthy-laws-against-rioting-and-terrorism-must-be-enforced-against-violent-radicals-ravaging-cities

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        • “more directly in line with Trump’s comments”

          Trump has primarily been talking up a violent response and blaming media and political opponents. I haven’t seen him say anything much like:

          The attorney general made explicit reference to “groups of outside radicals and agitators” who are pursuing a “separate and violent agenda.”

          Obviously they should be dealt with appropriately, but blaming the media and Biden is nothing like appropriate in the circumstances.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  1st June 2020

            He has outlawed Antifa as a terrorist organisation so his actions are directly in line with that article. His word warfare with the media is an electoral sideshow that will escalate independently until November.

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  5. David

     /  1st June 2020

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/f-trump-and-keep-going-teigen-carell-other-celebs-posting-bail-for-rioters

    Read it and weep. The Dems best mates response is F Trump and keep going and I will pay your bail.
    Incitement to commit a crime ? What about the young and dumb following the lead of their Instagram hero,s and getting themselves a life long criminal record which precludes them from many government jobs and assistance.
    The most dangerous people around at the moment are Hilary supporting white Democrat women but as we saw in Central Park this week are at their heart just as racist as the KKK.

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    • artcroft

       /  1st June 2020

      Lots of anger out on the streets of America. The best way to handle it is with an iron fist and crush dissent.

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      • Corky

         /  1st June 2020

        Arty, it’s time for folk to take out their irons and make America white…I mean great again.🤐

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  1st June 2020

        Lots of anger out on the streets of America. The best way to express it is to stone the police and burn down the neighbourhood.

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  6. Pink David

     /  1st June 2020

    Extremely cool.

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

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      • One reason why many black kids don’t have fathers in their lives is because of the high black male imprisonment rate. That’s a complicated issue which is a part of the long term problem for blacks in the US.

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        • It’s not that many generations ago that black children didn’t have fathers because dad had been sold. It takes a long time to put that sort of thing right.

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        • David

           /  1st June 2020

          25% of young black men in America are either in jail, on parole, remand or otherwise somewhere in the justice system. Many black Americans blame Biden for his crime bill, many more people wonder why this was allowed to continue under the first black American president. Where were the protests then ?
          Unreported is Trump pushing through proudly the First Step Act and vastly increasing the money for black only colleges to try and turn around this terrible statistic.

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        • Pink David

           /  1st June 2020

          If it is a complicated issue, why did you cherry pick one aspect of it, and present it as the issue?

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          • I didn’t cherry pick one aspect of it. The heading refers to burning at the bottom to flaming at the top. There’s obviously a lot in between all of that.

            If you want to do a detailed post about the history of slavery, racism, oppression, extra-judicial killing, family and community dysfunction, police brutality, economic disparity, discrimination and the ongoing degradation of democracy in the Unites States then I’ll post it for you.

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            • Pink David

               /  1st June 2020

              “If you want to do a detailed post about the history of slavery, racism, oppression, extra-judicial killing, family and community dysfunction, police brutality, economic disparity, discrimination and the ongoing degradation of democracy in the Unites States then I’ll post it for you.”

              Sounds like you are looking for a post grad in grievance studies. Would your post be anything other than a boiler plate narrative that has been repeated ad nauseam for the last 50 years? Repeating the same tropes and never once getting close to anything like a truth.

              You talk about degradation of democracy in the US, when are you posting about the framing of a US General as part of an attempt to unseat an elected President?

              “The heading refers to burning at the bottom to flaming at the top. ”

              The burning is at the top as well. Some of the wealthiest, most privileged people in the world are happy to throw Molotov cocktail’s at police. But blame slavery eh? Look at their oppression, see how their economic disparity cause this.

              https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-molotov-nypd-brooklyn-lawyers-charged-20200531-nxamwxnjmzgvzmczi6z2ypcbzi-story.html

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  1st June 2020

              The loony Left going barking mad.

        • FarmerPete

           /  1st June 2020

          That is one reason. Another is that many young black men father many different children with different mothers. That of course is an outcome of poverty and poor education.

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  8. Gezza

     /  1st June 2020

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300025024/black-lives-matter-march-kiwis-urged-to-wear-masks-at-nz-protest-events

    What it’s got to do with New Zealanders is beyond me. It’s not like anybody in the police in the US are going to give a damnabout protests here by folk totally unconnected to it. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ghahraman & a few of the usual suspects trying to score points off it in some contrived New Zealand equivalence.

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    • Corky

       /  1st June 2020

      Not the Pink One. Not during a public holiday. She should be encouraging protesters not to wear masks.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st June 2020

      From the water level in the hot tub I don’t think our guests next door practised much social distancing this weekend.

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      Members of a terrorist organisation;

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      “What it’s got to do with New Zealanders is beyond me. ”

      It gets them the chance to be seen supporting a ‘right on’ cause. Notice they are not protesting NZ’ers losing their liberty, nor any NZ Police overreach/misjustice.

      It’s just a chance for them to get their instagram moment.

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    • “The disease of state based discrimination is not constrained to American borders. We must acknowledge that here in New Zealand, at every single step of the justice system, Māori face increased discrimination”, Green Party Justice spokesperson Golriz Ghahraman said.

      “This means that Māori experience more arrests, more prosecutions, longer jail sentences, more brutality, and deaths, than Pākehā in similar circumstances.

      “As a nation, we must collectively come together and reflect on how we build a new normal where all New Zealanders are treated equally and with respect”, Marama Davidson said.

      “We must be actively working to see how we can create a justice system that all New Zealanders trust. Part of this process is decreasing the ability for police to be armed with deadly firearms.

      https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2006/S00002/green-party-statement-on-the-death-of-george-floyd.htm

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      • Corky

         /  1st June 2020

        ”We must acknowledge that here in New Zealand, at every single step of the justice system, Māori face increased discrimination.”

        I wonder why?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  1st June 2020

        They are usually calling for more discrimination for Maori.

        They should be calling for no discrimination against any race and more effective interventions for everyone. By any measure our justice, welfare and education systems have massive and costly failures. Fix them.

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    • David

       /  1st June 2020

      Good to see the protests are coming here with that vicious race baiter in the beehive.

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  9. It’s just one side of destroying the rule of law. Another side is police killing a restrained person. Another side is the burning and looting which are gross over-reactions.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st June 2020

      He can use the existing laws outlined by Andrew McCarthy in the article linked above to investigate, prosecute and shut down Antifa as a domestic terrorist organisation defined by their own illegal actions.

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      • I don’t think Trump can investigate and prosecute.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  1st June 2020

          FBI and Justice Dept can under his leadership. How come he gets blamed for what is not his responsibility and denied authority for what is?

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          • artcroft

             /  1st June 2020

            Really. Mexicans are rapists, the media are the enemy of the people, Joe Scarborough is a murder, calling for police brutality against suspects in custody.

            No, he can’t even try to unite the nation as a leader should in these times. All he can do is take sides (and flip flop as the story evolves).

            Good leaders have political capita; to spend in times like this to defuse the situation. Trump has none.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  1st June 2020

              Drivel. How on earth can he unite the nation when the Democrat Left have been conspiring against him and attacking him from the moment he was nominated?

            • artcroft

               /  1st June 2020

              I guess you’re correct. After all Obama never faced obstruction and insults from the right. And of course the media never covered his retweet from Cowboys for Obama stating that the only good Republican was a dead one. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-retweet-cowboys/

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  1st June 2020

              Obama couldn’t unite the nation either, but he had the advantage of a Democrat media.

            • artcroft

               /  1st June 2020

              Yeah, it’s the media who are the problem. Trump’s just misunderstood.
              #killademtoday.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  1st June 2020

              No, the problems are police brutality; black poverty and crime; looting, burning and violent take over of protests.

              Political vendettas and media bias are just amplifiers intensified by election year.

    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      “It’s just one side of destroying the rule of law.”

      The President has the bully pulpit. That is the primary tool for a President on domestic matters and always has been. To call it destroying the rule of law is a profound lack of understanding.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st June 2020

      Brown talking crap as usual. Any evidence anyone local other than him is reading that stuff?

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      “Twitter accounts exploit the situation to advance various narratives about leftist violence and paid protestors.”

      Funny. It’s a ‘narrative’, nothing to do with the leftist violence, and paid protesters. Russell really is a piece of work promoting this nonsense.

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  11. Pink David

     /  1st June 2020

    Here is a good example of narrative building. Fanning the flames indeed, headline;

    “Police Erupt in Violence Nationwide”

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/george-floyd-protests-police-violence.html

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    • Pink David

       /  1st June 2020

      An adjunct to ‘Police erupt in violence nationwide’;

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      • duperez

         /  1st June 2020

        Quite a good analogy actually. ‘The radical-left formally divorced itself from America last night’ but the radical-right can stay inside the marriage because things are going well for them.

        “Daniel Bongino (born December 4, 1974) is an American conservative political commentator, radio show host, author, former congressional candidate, and former U.S. Secret Service agent. He is a member of the Republican Party and ran unsuccessfully for Congress in 2012, 2014, and 2016.”

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  12. Gezza

     /  1st June 2020

    Jeez. You think they’d learn …

    https://play.stuff.co.nz/details/_6160741317001

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  13. Gezza

     /  1st June 2020

    “US President Donald Trump was briefly moved to the White House’s underground bunker Friday night to shelter in place for a brief period of time as the protest grew outside the Executive Mansion, according to multiple outlets.”

    “Trump claimed DC Mayor Muriel Bowser didn’t allow DC police to “get involved” and assist Secret Service, though Secret Service later said they were on the scene.

    Bowser, a Democrat, said on Twitter the city’s police department would protect everyone regardless of whether the mayor agreed with them.

    “While he hides behind his fence afraid/alone, I stand w/ people peacefully exercising their First Amendment Right after the murder of #GeorgeFloyd & hundreds of years of institutional racism There are no vicious dogs & ominous weapons. There is just a scared man,” she wrote.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/300025374/us-president-donald-trump-taken-to-underground-bunker-as-protests-grew-outside-white-house-reports

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  14. Pink David

     /  1st June 2020

    On the upside, you get some very amusing moments like this.

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  15. Gezza

     /  1st June 2020

    Former NBA star videoed beating up white idiot protester & then explains why in ghetto pidgin English.

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  16. duperez

     /  1st June 2020

    Another contribution. Can’t imagine why the mother and son in this one are complaining.
    After all they got to live.

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