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  1. Corky

     /  5th June 2020

    Even though not funny, the way it came across on the news was, with one chap explaining how a new KFC franchise would make it easier for him to`get a feed. Some asked how come Otara gets KFC, and wealthier suburbs get supermarkets ( that was funny, too).

    Well… maybe because the wellfy eat avocados, hummus and salads?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12337079

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    • a tawdry bit of misrepresentation by Corky: “one chap explaining how a new KFC franchise would make it easier for him to`get a feed”

      What Corky fails to say is that chap said he was a “sucker for KFC” but he didn’t want the outlet built because of the challenges that it caused for the community.

      “It’s very clear with many of our families in the South Auckland communities there’s a lot of diabetes, being overweight and obesity, all of these things that can be prevented. I think it’s not just about building a KFC in Ōtara, it’s looking wider, into the bigger food system in South Auckland. Any kind of system is supposed to serve people. I think a KFC should not be built in Ōtara.”

      Read in context it presents very differently to Corky’s glib summary.

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      • Corky

         /  5th June 2020

        ”What Corky fails to say is that chap said he was a “sucker for KFC.”

        I didn’t see all the article..if it’s out of context it wasn’t meant. That was on One News. I was in a rush and couldn’t find the appropriate clip with the dude saying that.

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        • Then don’t say it if you haven’t seen it..

          I saw the story on 3 and it was as Ishmael describes it. The whole point was that the area has a lot of obese people and doesn’t need more takeaway places.

          We don’t need a clip, we all have televisions and can watch the news.

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          • Corky

             /  5th June 2020

            ”I saw the story on 3 News.”

            ”We all have TV and can watch the news.”

            Really. I’m calling out Kitty. I say she doesn’t have TV. That goes for Ishmael as well.

            @ 1.43 😂

            Any chance of an apology, guys? No, I thought not.

            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/thousands-sign-petition-against-second-kfc-opening-in-south-auckland-suburb.html

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            • How would I have seen it on the news and known what it said if I don’t have a television ?

              There was a bit of film of a street with a lot of takeaway places and a close up of some greasy looking chicken. I don’t know the name of the street, There were also shots of KFC. The reporter said that 1 in 3 here are overweight and that it was more in Otara.

              The misspelling of wealthy as wellfy is old and tired. You should be apologising for that as well as for calling us liars.

            • Corky

               /  5th June 2020

              When I was wrong about your dogs I apologised after Gezza pointed out posts to prove I was wrong.

              Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. True, in your case the fruit is rotten.

  2. David

     /  5th June 2020

    Its funny how the anti lockdown protestors, remember the peaceful protests, in Illinois were slammed for spreading the virus and yet the Floyd protestors are totally immune..science eh.
    What do the Governors of these states do now about their lockdowns, seems bizarre protests are welcolmed and supported by the same people that wont allow businesses to re open.
    Why is their no coverage of the retired black police sergeant who was shot and killed by looters in St Louis, is it only certain black lives that matter.
    Apparently Floyd worked with his murderer who moonlighted doing security for a rather dodgy nightclub, could it have been a straight out murder given he remained kneeling on his neck for many minutes after his colleague said there was no pulse. Floyd had meth and fentynal in his system could it have been a hit given its a odd 4 coppers would arrest someone passing fake 20 dollar notes.
    When he gets convicted and sentenced do the riots kick off again. When was the last time Americans took to the streets after police brutality anywhere else in the world, in fact when has any other country hit the streets in protest at anything happening in another country, is it just an anti Trump thing given it never happened when a black man was shot by a white copper under Obama.

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    • artcroft

       /  5th June 2020

      Sad that he Floyd didn’t live in the Phillipines then, I understand their extrajudicial executions are carried out humanly with a bullet to the head. There’s no prolonged nine minute strangulation involved.

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    • Gezza

       /  5th June 2020

      The protests in the US aren’t just about George Floyd, David. He’s the latest symbol & flash point. It’s about too much police brutality & authoritarian bullying behaviour, directed too frequently at members of the black community, but also others. And too often, too little accountability.

      That country often seens awash in potentially dangerous armed men in uniform, terrorising folk. In a way it’s not surprising. The place is awash with guns, legal & illegal. A lot of them probably feel & are taught that the safest thing to do is be paranaoid & treat everyone as a potential cop killer. Just watch 30 minutes of PD Live Uncut.

      Add the odd racist & psychopath into the mix, & the police cultures of “us versus them” & “We got your back” you end up with the population not really liking or trusting their cops.

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    • David’s comments look like another attempt to float inane conspiracy theories and victim-blame George Floyd for being murdered – can the pro-fa right go any lower?

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      • If you think that David’s comments are an isolated example of pro-fa nastiness, then take a look at this: a Texas GOP official claims George Floyd’s death was ‘staged’ to hurt Trump

        “These officers were involved in something, I’m not sure exactly what, but something is just not adding up. Also this supposed officer is now missing from his home, no where to be found has the smell of MK Ultra activation. I think that there is at the very least the ‘possibility,’ that this was a filmed public execution of a black man by a white cop, with the purpose of creating racial tensions and driving a wedge in the growing group of anti deep state sentiment from common people, that have been already been psychologically traumatized by COVID 19 fears. Historically, in election years and politically contested areas or groups, racial or gun violence incidents are becoming common place. Considering the rising approval level of President Trump in the black community an event like this was entirely ‘Predictable.’”

        What is really predictable is that the GOP and their supporters will continue stooping to new lows like this from now until the US elections to try and distract from their own failings.

        https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/texas-gop-official-claims-george-floyds-death-was-staged-to-hurt-trump-in-rant-about-mind-control-experiments/

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        • duperez

           /  5th June 2020

          In many places the woman in that story Republican Party Chair Cynthia Brehm would be said to ‘have issues’ or be called a ‘nutcase.’ In these times she can get to be the spokesperson and leader for others of limited intellect.

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      • jolofraser@outlook.com

         /  5th June 2020

        C m I,yes David could go lower,he could praise David Seymour, and ACT and after his whine,deservedly getting thrown out of the house
        MAGA …Make Act Go Away…MAGA

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    • Pink David

       /  5th June 2020

      Here is the best example of out and out insanity.

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    • The video of the ‘retired cop’ showed an obviously much younger man than one of almost 80 and the body not only hadn’t gone limp as they do immediately, it was moving and the eyes opened and closed. The phone was still clasped in the body’s hand. Anyone who has seen someone die (as I have) or seen someone who has just died will know that the body relaxes immediately.

      The photo of the cop who was supposedly shot looked nothing like the man in the video and seemed to be still working.

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      • Gezza

         /  5th June 2020

        It was his police dept photo. Probably taken years ago, when he was younger. He was retired when he was shot.

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        • The man in the video was nothing like 77 from the look of him and didn’t look dead. I have seen people die and seen people immediately after death and they go totally limp. They don’t lie in that posture, their hands open and they don’t open and shut their eyes or move their mouths.

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  3. Patzcuaro

     /  5th June 2020

    In a cost cutting move Trump has downsized his wall project, rather than along the Mexican border, it is now just going to be around the White House.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  5th June 2020

      Reading the writing on the wall, Trump moves quickly to thwart the removal trucks, building a wall around White House.

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      • Well, it’s reasonable to have security at such places. No. 10 has police and the door which looks exactly like the original one is solid reinforced steel and bombproof. I forget how many men it takes to lift it, but it’s quite a few. This was done when the IRA bombed No, 10. The chances of getting near No. 10 are non-existent.

        Even our PMs have security.

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  4. Corky

     /  5th June 2020

    I listened to an expert on Hong Kong last night. He mentioned something I hadn’t thought about. Should folk from Hong Kong take up Britain’s offer of citizenship, the outflow of wealth from Hong Kong would be huge. One thing China understands only to well is the power of the dollar. I wonder if they may forget about any pretence of a two nation system and come down hard on Hong Kong to limit the damage?

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  5. Patzcuaro

     /  5th June 2020

    Building a wall.

    Next time Merkel is in Washington she will be able to go to the White House Wall and say ” I am a Washingtonian”

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    • Pink David

       /  5th June 2020

      Hmmm…I think you could interpret this one way at least….walls work.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  5th June 2020

        It can’t be much fun for the police standing for hours on end but how about the optics of Trump barricading himself in behind a fence?

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2020

          It’s a wise move. This protests will start petering out of its own accord if the police don’t keep overreacting & end up behaving like a gang of uniformed thugs, & proving the very point folk have been making. Stoking it back up again.

          It’ll all die down soon enuf & be calm again for another 5-10 years until the next flashpoint caused by some gung ho bullying psychopathic or racist cop.

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        • Pink David

           /  5th June 2020

          “It can’t be much fun for the police standing for hours on end but how about the optics of Trump barricading himself in behind a fence?”

          I’ll ask an honest question, is there anything Trump can do in this situation that will not be bad ‘optics’ to the press?

          His worst mistake to date was going into the bunker, regardless of the reason. But the fence is worthwhile if it works.

          Like it or not, it’s going to be a metaphor for America now. All across America people will be looking at how to fence themselves off from BLM and ANTIFA if the police and army are incapable of deal with riots.

          This has happened following every one of these events, white move away from mix communities and the black communities that saw the worst riots get poorer for generations. We have just shown many people don’t need to be local to cities any more, and now this is the reason to get out and away from the threat.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  5th June 2020

            Trump going into the basement might have been the worst optics from your point of view, from mind it is clearing protesters so he could have a cheap photo op, bible in hand in front of a church. No reading from the bible, praying or inspecting the damage just a photo op. Apparently he had a liberal version of the bible in is hand.
            None off the clergy were on hand to greet him, surplus to requirement.

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    • I think so. These things do fizz out; look at Occupy, the Gilets Jaunes, the ones in England whose cause I can’t remember, the student riots of the 60 in France, the…..

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  6. The idiot right will be mightily pissed that another of their conspiracy theories – this time about Hunter Biden – is now put to rest:

    “An audit of thousands of old case files by Ukrainian prosecutors found no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Hunter Biden”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/04/ukranian-prosecutors-finds-no-evidence-against-hunter-biden

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    • duperez

       /  5th June 2020

      No, it isn’t put to rest. It’ll be fake evidence, hoax evidence and they have the real evidence.

      No matter, the seed has been planted in heads and will remain.

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  7. Bunker Boy busted.

    “It was a false report. I wasn’t down. I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection. There was no problem during the day . . . And these problems are during the night not during the day.”
    ~ Trump

    Ah no, that’s a lie, fella. Well a couple of lies actually.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-moved-trump-to-secure-bunker-friday-after-protesters-breached-temporary-fences-near-white-house-complex/2020/06/03/e4ae77c2-a5b9-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html

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  8. Patzcuaro

     /  5th June 2020

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  9. Pink David

     /  5th June 2020

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      • Pink David

         /  5th June 2020

        White privilege in action.

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2020

          Have you totally lost the plot?

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          • A couple of updates in the past 10 minutes:

            The victim is ok, in hospital with severe skull lacerations, heavily concussed

            Buffalo PD Alerts initially claimed the victim “tripped and fell” without mentioning he fell because they shoved him. LIARS!

            Buffalo’s police commissioner has since ordered an immediate Internal Affairs investigation into the assault.

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            • More details on the victim: 75 years old and listed as in a serious condition.

              Two police suspended. NYAG has been briefed.

              Every cop in that video ought to be fired. Utter fucking police thuggery that protects no-one. No wonder every state in America is protesting police brutality.

            • Pink David

               /  5th June 2020

              “No wonder every state in America is protesting police brutality.”

              Is it? I thought it was protesting for Black Lives Matter? Is there a news article I missed?

              Patzcuaro wants to make it about race after all.

          • Corky

             /  5th June 2020

            You should know better, Gezza. I explained this yesterday. When you enter a man’s personal space on the street, that’s assault. It was dealt with appropriately.

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            • The fact that you ‘explained it’ doesn’t mean that it’s right.

              By your logic, anyone who stands close to another person or accidentally bumps into them is assaulting them. The response was totally inappropriate. An old man was knocked over and left bleeding from head injuries when he had not even touched his assailants who then walked past him and left him to die for all they knew or cared. They could have ignored him or brushed past him instead of shoving him over.

            • Corky

               /  5th June 2020

              ”By your logic, anyone who stands close to another person or accidentally bumps into them is assaulting them.”

              Would you assault a young girl who entered your personal space to ask a question?

              ”They could have ignored him or brushed past him instead of shoving him over.”

              They basically did. The idiot was standing in what’s called a neutral stance and unbalanced. He was shoved and toppled over. Did you see a baton strike?

              You need to stop posting rubbish. It’s embarrassing. If you want to take the piss, say so at the start of your comments.

            • Of course I wouldn’t assault someone who asked me a question; who would ? But according to you, she would be assaulting me by ‘entering (my) personal space.’ (your words) You’d better not go to Europe where the personal space is much smaller than here.

              I didn’t say that there was a baton ‘strike’, although a closer view shows that one cop shoved him with a baton held in both hands as the other pushed him with an open hand, No wonder he staggered back and fell.

              . You are talking nonsense again. One minute you say that they brushed past, then you say that he was shoved, Which was it ?

              I said that the assailant/s knocked the old man over, which made him fall backwards and then walked away, leaving him bleeding on the ground. One cop bent over him but was prevented by another. For all they knew, he could have been dead or dying,. You might think that giving an old man concussion, a fractured skull and lacerations is appropriate, Most people wouldn’t.

            • Corky

               /  5th June 2020

              Yes, I see my problem. I am imputing to you a modicum of common sense, reinforced by logic. No sense furthering the discussion.

            • duperez

               /  5th June 2020

              What should be embarrassing is your continued postings which show your mindset. “When you enter a man’s personal space on the street, that’s assault. It was dealt with appropriately.” Like the police bashings in other states in the last 24 hours I suppose.

              The other day you said you wouldn’t have the temperament for some jobs. You also said, “Indigenous folk think differently. They know and administer the ‘bash.’ The white middleclass way does not work with them. Rational thought isn’t their first priority when they are faced with a problem.”

              Rational thought isn’t for ‘indigenous folk’ when faced with a problem? Consistently your ‘rational thought’ is to rely on aggression. Does that make you ‘indigenous’ or is it just a sign of insecurity and lack of willingness or other skills to handle awkward situations. Resorting to brute force and bullying is all a lot of cops have. I can imagine you in that clip from Patzcuaro (below).

              There won’t be embarrassment because that’s just who you are as shown by your utterances.

            • Corky

               /  5th June 2020

              There seems to be an epidemic of thickness on this blog:

              ”What should be embarrassing is your continued postings which show your mindset. “When you enter a man’s personal space on the street, that’s assault. It was dealt with appropriately.”

              1- Who approached the police?
              2- Who remonstrated with the police?
              3- Who was given a chance to move on?
              4- Who didn’t move on?
              5- Who was pushed..but not hit with a baton?
              6- who lost his balance?

              Are you for real. What’s wrong with you? Hold on! I will check the clip one more time to make sure this isn’t a KFC moment.

              Yep, you have no idea what you are talking about. The clip is quite clear.
              The offender is well documented. The police action was not excessive.

        • duperez

           /  5th June 2020

          By tomorrow Kayleigh McEnany will have it that the guy was putting lives of police and troopers at risk, that they were just defending themselves. She’ll be able to say, “See, the law is being applied equally to all, black and white.”

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        • Who does that protect? Unconscious on the ground, blood pooling under his head, and the police officer won’t allow his colleague tend to to him. What are the cops doing here?

          They’re the aggressors in nearly every scenario that ends with serious harm inflicted. How can you be blind to that?

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          • Pink David

             /  5th June 2020

            I’m glad that everyone agrees with me.

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            • Fuck off – nobody I know agrees with a completely unnecessary police attack on a 75 year old.

            • Pink David

               /  5th June 2020

              Cupcake, I’m completely against police violence on anyone. That is my point.

              I give not one fuck about the colour of their skin. My point is very simple, this is also true in US policing. They are not racists. Their use of force is applied regardless of skin colour.

            • Patzcuaro

               /  5th June 2020

              Police force applied regardless of colour, yeah right.

    • Gezza

       /  5th June 2020

      Good on them. Who likes seeing their monuments & fences & doorways sprayed over with ugly bloody graffiti? What’s happening in the US has got fk all to do with London. Bet the mouthy middleclass-looking “Excyuuuze me” white sheila objecting hasn’t picked up & used a scrubbing brush in her life. Why doesn’t she go home a tag her olds’ front door?

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      • Niagara Square isn’t in London, it’s in Buffalo (you’re thinking of Trafalgar Square)

        He’s an old man, there was no excuse to shove him over backwards like that and then just walk past him lying on the ground.

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      • My mistake. I wondered why you were applauding those brutes. Ignore above comment,

        If they’d left it, the paint might well have not been so easy to remove from the old stone.

        Tariana Turia saw tagging and graffiti as urban art (or something specious like that) but I bet that she would be as angry as anyone if the artists adorned her fence.

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  10. Patzcuaro

     /  5th June 2020

    Things must be going down hill in the US, the police are using their batons on whites and women.

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    • duperez

       /  5th June 2020

      I guess in Philadelphia they do all sorts of testing to pick people for their police force. On the evidence here they look for overweight psychopaths.

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    • Gezza

       /  5th June 2020

      You’d think that was Moscow or in some other intolerant police state. Thank goodness Americans are waking up to how their law enforcement officers behave when they exercise the right of protest. Legalised thuggery. Putin & Xi will be rubbing their hands with glee.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  5th June 2020

        Yep Putin & Xi must be enjoying the spectacle, especially when Trump decide yo inspect the White House basement.

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  11. Pink David

     /  5th June 2020

    Black lives matter?

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    • duperez

       /  5th June 2020

      Of course black lives matter. Good to see you’re upset that a black guy is suffering from what has happened to him here.

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      • Pink David

         /  5th June 2020

        What a very strange thing to say.

        I am not upset. What ‘good’ would this do exactly? Would it change his situation? Would anything be improved by it?

        Is sympathy enough in this situation?

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  12. Pink David

     /  5th June 2020

    I read a book years ago that I have now realised was a message from the future.

    This is unfolding right in front of us.

    Snowcrash

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash

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  13. Alan Wilkinson

     /  5th June 2020

    Seems today was peak stupidity worldwide. A good one to sit out and wait for some sanity to return.

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