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  1. David

     /  10th June 2020

    National are finished, if they start apologising for using the term “sticking to her knitting” because Nikki found a couple of loons on twitter screaming sexist. Men knit too.
    You are not going to out woke the left so stop even trying, lets not import the absurdities of the UK and the US, its not a vote winner outside of the 4 votes available from the wimmins studies professors.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300031068/national-mp-sticking-to-knitting-not-the-best-phrase-to-use-about-pm

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    • Gezza

       /  10th June 2020

      Hmm. Given the stellar poll ratings for Ardern & the fact she is a modern, liberated young woman – few of whom even know or care how to knit – while Goldsmith probably made a tactical error apologising for using the well out-of-date phrase – National would certainly be best advised to avoid using any sexist phrase like that that’s going to raise the hackles of female voters my age and younger in future.

      If Goldsmith knows how to knit & does it himself for relaxation or to save money, it might perhaps be excusable. But he should say so.

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      • David

         /  10th June 2020

        Apparently its sexist, the wife informed me use that phrase at home and there would be issues.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  10th June 2020

        Best if Goldsmith is going to knit that he does it in the privacy of his own house.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  10th June 2020

        It’s disgraceful because it mocks the PM as everyone knows she can’t knit.

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    • Corky

       /  10th June 2020

      Nikki really belongs in the Labour Party. I wonder if she’ll go when Muller get’s the chop?
      If going by talkback is anything to go by, National is bleeding votes to ACT. Voters are seeing Seymour… and hearing him, but they aren’t hearing from Muller.

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  2. David

     /  10th June 2020

    Why cant someone take the twitter machine away from Trump occasionally, this has to be about the dumbest thing he has ever done. Why would he even bother tweeting about the old guy being knocked over, there are that many other things he could be talking about.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-takes-heat-for-suggesting-man-shoved-by-buffalo-police-may-be-antifa-provocateur

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    • Gezza

       /  10th June 2020

      Bcause he’s a narcissistic idiot. He can’t help himself. Somebody in his sycophantic entourage or on Fox tv probably said something daft like that & he just incorporated it into that tiny brain of his & brain farted it out again. So many of his departed intelligent appointees have called him a moron or the equivalent that it simply cannot be ignored.

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      • duperez

         /  10th June 2020

        We could take it as a clever political strategy. Backroom brains have worked out that if such and such is said on some afternoon 200 votes might be gained amongst over 70 year old widows of ex – servicemen in Ohio.

        Or it could be just as you said. You may have seen the account the other day of the record number of tweets he made in one day. He will see it as magnanimity in sharing his genius with the world.

        Imagine being one of his minders or advisors. It’d be like bringing up a special type of kid. The best way to get him to do or say something would be to seed it with a, ‘Whatever you do, don’t…’

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      • the idea came out of OAN. The OAN correspondent who narrated the segment, Kristian Rouz, is a Russian native who has also worked for Sputnik, a Kremlin-controlled news outlet.

        Draw your own conclusions.

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  3. Corky

     /  10th June 2020

    First rule of self defence around car use is: ” Lock Your Doors.” Especially for women driving alone. The thing is…99% of us don’t lock our doors. There’s many angry and confused people out there. Crimes like this will become as common as they are in South Africa.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/christchurch-woman-brutally-attacked-after-stranger-enters-car-at-traffic-lights.html

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    • duperez

       /  10th June 2020

      I know people who moved here from South Africa when a carjacking incidents was the ‘final straw.’

      You say, “crimes like this will become as common as they are in South Africa.”
      There were 16,026 carjackings in South Africa in 2019. When do you think we will have 16,000 carjackings in a year?

      Why will the incidents get to such astonishing levels? Do you have ideas about how to prevent numbers skyrocketing?

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1006796/number-carjackings-south-africa/

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  10th June 2020

        Probably correlates directly with unemployment and poverty.

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      • Corky

         /  10th June 2020

        ”There were 16,026 carjackings in South Africa in 2019. When do you think we will have 16,000 carjackings in a year?”

        I think common senses dictates we scale for population size. That said, when I say common, I mean common, like street assaults. Soon we will have public reminders to drive with our car doors locked.

        ”Why will the incidents get to such astonishing levels? Do you have ideas about how to prevent numbers skyrocketing?”

        They will increase to such astonishing levels because we will have a new breed on criminal in society.. middlclass folk without a job or hope. They will introduce us to new criminal activities.More sophisticated crimes.

        Oh, yeah, I could stop crime in its tracks. But I have been down that track, and few are interested. Best to let victims of crime get killed or maimed…and get on with their lives as best they can.

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        • duperez

           /  10th June 2020

          Looks like you have equality kicking in! Middle class folk without a job or hope are going to be criminals. No excuse for them of course. When ‘lower class’ folk committed crimes having no job and no hope were pathetic excuses.

          As far as the unemployed introducing us to more sophisticated crimes, they’re going to have to be pretty switched on. It is not hard to find the employed who’ve n=made a good fist of crime. Except for getting caught.
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12280614

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        • It’s a bit hard to see how someone who’s been killed can get on with their life..

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          • Corky

             /  10th June 2020

            ”Best to let victims of crime get killed or maimed…and get on with their lives as best they can.”

            Would you like me to hold your hand and help you workout what is meant?

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    • Gerrit

       /  10th June 2020

      My car alarm automatically locks the doors as soon as the car is in motion. Old fashion 20 year old alarm. New car alarms don’t self lock the doors?

      Even if you leave the car parked and unlocked it will automatically lock the doors after a short period of time. Always, always make sure you take the keys with you when you exit the car.

      Another question is how many people lock their cars when at a service station. Lot of bag snatching and car jacking at service stations.

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  4. Conspiratoor

     /  10th June 2020

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    • Corky

       /  10th June 2020

      Oh, that’s racial profiling on a subtle level?

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      • No, I think it’s a joke. Don’t be so literal-minded.

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        • Corky

           /  10th June 2020

          So, what’s the joke?

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        • Corky

           /  10th June 2020

          Let me explain from a racist point of view:

          1- Workboots – blacks don’t work.
          2- Condoms- blacks don’t practice birth control hence all the children without parents.
          3-Fathers day- many black kids don’t have a father in their lives.

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  5. Police in America complain they’re getting a raw deal. Deservedly so if this sort of policing is indicative of how they operate…

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    • Pink David

       /  10th June 2020

      What is your solution?

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      • Gezza

         /  10th June 2020

        Teaching these cops “Sticks & stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me” might be a good start. Showing them that video clip & pointing out they can get charged would be a good follow up.

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      • Corky

         /  10th June 2020

        He doesn’t have one. He just reports, but does not think.

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      • If police cannot figure out how to deal with human beings without the tactics of violence and fear then they need to go

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        • Corky

           /  11th June 2020

          What’s your solution????!!!!

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          • Get rid of the ones who cannot figure out how to deal with human beings without the tactics of violence and fear.

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            • Corky

               /  11th June 2020

              What? !!!

              Here’s a suggestion ( I don’t know whether it’s feasible)

              Draft federal legalisation putting all serving police officers under one national umbrella organisation. Said organisation will set rules and regulations.
              Counties will still elect their own officers provided they pass scrutiny from federal oversight. States, and especially counties may like to merge their police forces to create better services and stop ‘old boy’ networks continuing. A national standard for selection and training would be implemented.

          • Simple attitudinal changes are all you need.

            This is how Camden, NJ, did it:
            – dismissed the entire force and ask them to reapply
            – required all applicants to take physical and psychological exams to ensure they would be able to appropriately serve their communities
            – required successful candidates to undergo implicit bias training
            – required successful candidates to go door-knocking and on footbeats to meet the communities they are protecting
            – agreed policing policy with the communities the police were protecting
            provided detailed specifications on when force may be used legitimately and ensured force was not available as a matter of convenience

            The restructuring emphasised the dignity and rights of individuals, families, and neighborhoods by reconstituting law enforcement as a servant rather than a master. While the force has expanded by 64%, the police budget has increased by only about 9% during the same period.

            The outcome in Camden:
            Complaints about excessive force are down 95% since 2014—there were only 3 complaints about excessive force in 2019. Homicides fell by nearly one-third between 2012 and 2019 and the clearance rate on murder and violent crime doubled.

            What was done in Camden shows that an American police force can be strong without being either brutal or abusive. And it shows that police who understand the proper role of law enforcement can become a more positive force in the community rather than one that is in tension with the people whom it exists to serve.

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    • Corky

       /  10th June 2020

      Interesting clip..did you watch all of it? Looks to me this cop has been in the force too long, and has lost his tolerance for scumbags. He should have got out when he had the chance.
      He has over reacted and must now be punished for unprofessionalism and assault.

      Makes an interesting comparison with the old guy getting pushed.

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  6. Gerrit

     /  10th June 2020

    Well this slipped in under the radar. Who would have thought Andrew Little could back track this fast.

    Could have built a new hospital wing at Westport with the money wasted in “body recovery”..

    No bodies to be recovered from Pike River, just forensic evidence gathered. Broken promise from Labour? Not going to sit well with Bernie Monk and his side kicks.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12338776

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    • If that was my husband in there, I’d much rather have a new hospital or even a wing; that would be a much better memorial and use of the money.

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  10th June 2020

    THOUSANDS OF SEXY LOOKING GRANDMOTHERS THERE,just saying thousands and THOUSANDS

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    • ‪Actually, I’m glad Senator Cotton’s opinion was published. It exposes the moral and mental rot at the core of the Republican Party under the leadership of Donald Trump.‬

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  8. Pink David

     /  10th June 2020

    This is funny. By doing this they erase the first black woman to ever win an Oscar.

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