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  1. Patzcuaro

     /  12th June 2020

    Tone deaf Trump to hold first post COVID rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Juneteenth Day.

    “President Donald Trump was hit with strong backlash Thursday over his decision to hold a campaign rally next week on Juneteenth, a holiday marking the end of slavery, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the site of one of the deadliest race riots in American history, in 1921.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/slap-face-black-people-trump-faces-backlash-over-rally-juneteenth-n1229891

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    • Pink David

       /  12th June 2020

      I hate to break this too you, but rallies are being held all over the US without any issue according to the media. No reason Trump can’t have his own.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  12th June 2020

        I think you have missed or ignored the point, it is not having a rally, it is the date and location of Trumps first major post lockdown rally. If Ttump is going to havd a rally on Juneteenth Day in Tusla, let’s call it what it is, a white supremacist rally.

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      • PD: tone deaf as usual.

        Juneteenth: one of the oldest official celebrations commemorating the end of slavery in the United States.

        Tulsa: the site of one of the worst episodes of racial violence in U.S. history: the 1921 race massacre, 300 black people killed by mobs of white people

        Trump rally, Juneteenth in Tulsa, translated: a racist dog whistle to his white supremacist fan bois.

        Word salad prediction for the rally: tremendous, beautiful, unfair, overrated, fake, witch-hunt, Chinese plague, Antifa thugs, fine white people, … ad nauseam

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        • Pink David

           /  12th June 2020

          “Trump rally, Juneteenth in Tulsa, translated: a racist dog whistle to his white supremacist fan bois.”

          Why are you so good at hearing these racist dog whistles?

          I can’t hear racist dog whistles. But you can.

          Curious.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  12th June 2020

            Perhaps you need a hearing aid or a new one if you already have one.

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            • Pink David

               /  12th June 2020

              Oh, you can hear racist dog whistles too. Also curious.

              Isn’t the point of these ‘dog whistles’ that only racists can hear them?

        • Pink David

           /  12th June 2020

          Of course, we are all completely ware that if Trump held a rally in Dallas on the 20th June, Ishmael would be in full support of it.

          It;s just the date and location that you don’t like, have I got that right?

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  12th June 2020

            Seeing as you brought up Dallas, Trump has just been in Dallas for a roundtable on policing plus a fundraiser.

            “Even before he touched down in Dallas, Trump also faced scrutiny for not including in the roundtable three top area law enforcement officials who are black: Dallas Police Chief U. Reneé Hall, Dallas County Sheriff Marian Brown and Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot. Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson, who is also black, was invited, according to his office. But Johnson did not attend.”

            https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/11/donald-trump-dallas-texas-george-floyd/

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  2. Patzcuaro

     /  12th June 2020

    Mark Millet, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff apologies for being part of Trumps photo op at church.

    “He said: “I should not have been there. My presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53012887

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  3. Pink David

     /  12th June 2020

    The communists in Seattle are already begging the capitalists for food.

    Man that was quick, it usually takes communists weeks to starve and start eating their pets.

    CHADS is the funniest place on earth.

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    • I am not convinced that if trans women who were men are let to use female loos and changing rooms it will be open season on men barging in. If a rapist did this, he’d be taking a real risk of discovery as there are people coming and going all the time.In fact, there’s nothing to stop them now, if they want to take that chance. I don’t give a damn if a transperson who’s now a woman comes in; I have known a few and don’t see them as a threat, I think of them as women. I knew ‘Lorraine’ who was a transvestite/sexual prostitute and lived near me with other ‘working girls’.

      My mother’s friend was at school with a ‘dear little boy’ called Trevor Rupe and followed Carmen’s career with interest.

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      • Corky

         /  12th June 2020

        ”I don’t give a damn if a transperson who’s now a woman comes in; I have known a few and don’t see them as a threat, I think of them as women.”

        I find that difficult to accept given the way you post. Tell me, will a transperson who is now a sheila have a predominately male or female attitude with regards to fundamental human issues like sex and home relationships? I’m not talking about the way they PRESENT to the world….but their attitudes.

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    • Pink David

       /  12th June 2020

      Curious how the two spoiled brats she made both rich and famous turned on her on a dime.

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      • Curious how the two young actors who made her rich and famous stood up to her vile transphobia.

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        • Pink David

           /  12th June 2020

          “vile transphobia”

          There is nothing more entertaining that watching the Trans rights activists destroy woman’s sports,

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        • Pink David

           /  12th June 2020

          I’m actually wrong about that.

          There is something more entertaining. That is watching the Trans rights activist, and the feminists go head to head in their little war, fighting over who has periods and female penises.

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  12th June 2020

    [Deleted, that is a very offensive tweet. PG]

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  5. From Defoe’s A Journal of the Plague Year; written 1722, set in 1675. It’s a brilliant book; written with the art that conceals art, so that it sounds exactly like someone’s own account and not the novel that it is; many people think that it’s a genuine memoir.

    The things he describes here were genuine, as is the account of the events of the plague, like the empty streets, people walking down the middle of the road to avoid infection, it being a bad time to be ill because the person was assumed to have the plague and so on.

    ‘All the tradesmen usually employed in building or repairing houses were at a full stop [….] .this one article turned all the ordinary workmen of that kind out of business, such as bricklayers, masons, carpenters, joiners, plasterers,painters, glaziers, smiths, plumbers and all the labourers depending on such.’

    Ships couldn’t come in or out (‘as navigation was at a stop’) so ‘the seamen were all out of employment, and many in the last and lowest degree of distress; and with the seamen were the tradesmen belonging to and depending upon the building and fitting out of ships….

    He talks about other trades that have come to a halt and the workers losing their jobs.

    I have read it a few times before, but not, of course, when the same things (or the equivalent; for navigation read air traffic) were happening.

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    • Defoe is a superb writer; the father of the modern novel. One knows that Plague Year is a novel, but the narrator is totally convincing as an amateur who’s recording one of the most dramatic events of his era. He (HF, narrator) has a gift for writing and description, but it’s the gift of an ordinary person, not a professional writer. The art that conceals art, indeed. One never, at any time, questions that HF and not a skilled novelist is writing it.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  12th June 2020

    The little pusher engine that could(discribes me) see if you understand what i said

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    • Corky

       /  12th June 2020

      I only took a cursory look, Lurchy. I can tell you for a fact; your scooter CAN’T.

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  7. Pink David

     /  12th June 2020

    Example of systemic racism in the United States.

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  8. Corky

     /  12th June 2020

    Seems like Rob Fyfe has found out that you can’t work with a socialist government. They aren’t interested in people who think outside the square. If everyone did that, what use would socialism be?

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  9. The elderly man knocked down by cops has a brain injury. Who would be so anxious to make a point that he’d risk that ? It’s a very bad sign when blood pours from an ear like that. He and his attackers (who really look the part) are lucky that he’s still alive.

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  10. Corky

     /  12th June 2020

    Cop feels ashamed. He knew he did the wrong. The street eats weakness. Sin no more.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/11/nyc-cop-says-ashamed-kneeling-george-floyd-protesters-12840970/#metro-comments-container

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  11. Conspiratoor

     /  12th June 2020

    Can you imagine our gutless police minister and his dancing puppet being as straight up as this woman. What is it about the current crop that makes them so spineless.

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  12. Gezza

     /  12th June 2020

    “Winston Peters is describing the outcry about some of the country’s statues as a “wave of idiocy”.

    A controversial statue of Captain John Hamilton has been removed from Civic Square in Hamilton where it has stood since 2013. The decision to remove it was made after local kaumātua Taitimu Maipi declared he would tear it down during a planned protest in the city.

    Peters said some “woke New Zealanders feel the need to mimic mindless actions imported from overseas”. “A self-confident country would never succumb to obliterating symbols of their history, whether it be good or bad or simply gone out of fashion”, he said.

    “If one doesn’t approve of war we pull down our cenotaphs? Should we demolish every school that once applied corporal punishment? Should Gandhi’s statue be thrown in the Wellington harbour because we don’t agree? Should knighthoods to the undeserving be post-humously withdrawn? Do Māori now disown our mixed heritage?

    “The idea that statues of Captain Cook, the greatest maritime explorer of his age, be pulled down because of the history that followed him is disgraceful,” Peters said.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300033874/winston-peters-unimpressed-with-outcry-over-colonial-statues
    … … … … …
    This is starting to get dumb – and inconsistent.

    Someone Maori wanting a statue removed because they were responsible for slavery, deaths of natives & kidnappings in the Pacific was asked on radio whether any statues of Te Rauparaha should be removed as well because he did the same things.

    “No”, was the answer, “because he didn’t do it under legislation” – whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean. Bullshit is what that excuse is.

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  13. Duker

     /  12th June 2020

    The biggest surrender since the royals rewrote history and their German heritage during WW1….wiping their name from Saxe Coburg Gotta to ( actual surname Wettin)….Windsor
    Prince Phillip later rewrote history by dropping his father’s name of Glucksberg and using his mother’s name of Mountbatten , itself a rewrite of history from Battenburg.

    There’s a well known NZ blogger whose family on arrival in NZ as refugees found their german name was too close to fuhrer…so some rewriting was in order.

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