I had seen mentions of this story and thought it may have been a but over blown, but on looking at it in more detail it looks more bizarre and more concerning than I had thought.
RNZ: Facebook pulls Trump re-election ad featuring ‘Nazi’ symbolism
Facebook has removed ads from Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign that featured imagery the social network says violates its policy banning “organised hate”.
The ads featured an upside-down triangle, which anti-hate groups said was strikingly similar to notorious Nazi symbols denoting political prisoners in World War II concentration camps.
“We removed these posts and ads for violating our policy against organised hate,” a Facebook spokesperson confirmed to Variety.
“Our policy prohibits using a banned hate group’s symbol to identify political prisoners without the context that condemns or discusses the symbol.”
The triangles are bad enough. But seems that it’s worse than that.
It has been reported that there were 88 ads posted on Facebook (now taken down).
88 is a white supremacist numerical code for “Heil Hitler.” H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, so 88 = HH = Heil Hitler. One of the most common white supremacist symbols, 88 is used throughout the entire white supremacist movement, not just neo-Nazis. One can find it as a tattoo or graphic symbol; as part of the name of a group, publication or website; or as part of a screenname or e-mail address.
And from Facebook takes down Trump ads featuring symbol used by Nazis to mark political prisoners
Additionally, the first sentence of the ad has 14 words, a number that is used as shorthand for a famous white supremacist slogan and often combined with 88.
It is entirely possible that the numbers of ads and words in their first sentence are a coincidence, and the Trump campaign declined to comment.
It would seem odd if all of that is a coincidence.
Your NZ 
artcroft
/ 19th June 2020If there are 88 ads, and who can say, except Zuckerberg (who took the ads down cos he felt the whole thing was dodgy as hell), then it isn’t a coincidence. Which means the president of the USA is campaigning as a neo nazi. Make of that what you will.
artcroft
/ 19th June 2020From Reuters
“A Reuters tally counted 88 versions of the ad using the symbol from the three Facebook pages. Ads from Trump’s page had gained at least 800,000 impressions, according to Facebook’s ad library.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-trump/facebook-takes-down-trump-ads-over-organized-hate-policy-idUSKBN23P3AH
artcroft
/ 19th June 2020So I guess Reuters can say as well. Crazy times.
artcroft
/ 19th June 2020More and more Trump becomes a millionaire leading an army of the unemployed, while quoting the sermon on the mount.
Pink David
/ 19th June 2020“Which means the president of the USA is campaigning as a neo nazi. ”
Is he wanting to win the neo-nazi vote off Joe Biden?
Pete George
/ 19th June 2020You’re doing a bit of squirrel diverting.
Fox News covered the story partially: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/facebook-removes-trump-campaign-ad-about-far-left-groups-says-it-shows-hate-groups-symbol
Trump and his campaign seem to be gradually offending more and more groups. It seems like a dumb strategy, if there’s any strategy involved.
Pink David
/ 19th June 2020“You’re doing a bit of squirrel diverting.”
Do you agree with the idea that Donald Trump is campaigning as a neo mazi?
atheistmilitantsrising
/ 20th June 2020Damn right he is campaigning as a Nazi and [deleted]
artcroft
/ 19th June 2020Holding a rally in Tulsa on Juneteenth, nazi symbols in facebook ads, claiming there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. This is not coincidence. It deliberate. Its a choice his campaign is making to play to neo-nazis. It’s what he is. Is it what you are?
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020” It deliberate. Its a choice his campaign is making to play to neo-nazis.”
If the neo nazis did not vote for Trump, who would they vote for?
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020When you cast your vote, I guess you’ll know.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020Ah, that’s interesting.
I don’t vote, so that will be somewhat confusing for everyone.
I’d like to know who YOU think they will vote for.
How much of a political weight do neo-nazis in the US have? Are they as numerous as, say, the Quakers? Will they swing the important states?
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020You’re correct – The extreme right have no wait at the ballot box, but that’s not their purpose, this isn’t their time and Trump’s not their man.
However the boogaloos are gathering, coalescing, and they’re not going to disappear after Trump’s massive defeat in November.
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020weight not wait
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020I see. So Trump has neo-nazi symbolism because the neo-nazis won’t vote for him and regardless he will lose massively and it’s all about boogaloo.
Got it.
Biden has odds at 1.67, I guess you have placed a very sizable wager given your confidence.
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020I didn’t say they won’t vote for him they will. And racism has got him into the White House. Remember his birtherism campaign against Obama. What did that say but that Obama was an illegitimate president who wasn’t even American. That played well enough for him to reach the WH.
And since then he hasn’t stopped. His base is racist, he knows it, they know it why he uses Neo Nazi memes. You know it and don’t deny it either.
Trump will fail in November just like he’s failed every time other time. He talks a great game up can’t ever back it up. Even incumbency won’t save him. He’s another Carter.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020“And racism has got him into the White House. ”
Trump won because large numbers of democrats did not show up to vote for Clinton. Hillary lost.
“And since then he hasn’t stopped. His base is racist, he knows it, they know it why he uses Neo Nazi memes. You know it and don’t deny it either.”
Can you point to the single policy he has enacted that proves him being a Nazi. Go on, give it a go.
I think this is one of the most unhinged things I have ever read. You just love screaming NAZI at anyone who disagrees with you don’t you?
You really have no idea what a nazi is.
“Trump will fail in November just like he’s failed every time other time.”
Just like his failure in 2016?
“He’s another Carter.”
Carter is a neo nazi! Fuck me, I never knew that. It all makes sense now.
All those trips to Haiti. You can only wonder what a neo nazi was doing in Haiti.
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“Trump won because…” of a range of reasons. The result was close, and it’s as easy (as Dems not voting) to claim that Russia may have been been the deciding influence. Or James Comey.
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020Sure racism got him into the WH. The republican voters didn’t pick Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz. They went for the guy who said Obama wasn’t truely American. Why, because Trump had proof of this…no because Obama was black. That’s the start of Trump’s ascent. Racism.
And he’s kept going, the good people at Charlottesville, a rally at Tulsa on Juneteenth, these FB posts which Zuckerberg, whose not a shrinking violet, said were a bridge too far.
The evidence is in. Trump panders to racists, That’s his base. And he’ll be a one term president, because America saw George Floyd killed by cops in board daylight and said enough.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020“Trump panders to racists, ”
Hang on a second. You started this about neo-nazis. Now your charge is ‘pandering’ to racists? That seems quite a difference.
Are you now saying he just panders to people you don’t agree with now?
Here was I thinking your claim was Trump was a Nazi.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020““Trump won because…” of a range of reasons. The result was close, and it’s as easy (as Dems not voting) to claim that Russia may have been been the deciding influence. Or James Comey.”
You can claim anything you like. The data shows some very clear reasons. Hillary simply did not get anywhere near the vote Obama did. They stayed at home in all the places it mattered.
Anyone who claims Russia was the difference is suffering from a serious delusion.
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“The data shows some very clear reasons.”
What data? Which reasons?
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“Anyone who claims Russia was the difference is suffering from a serious delusion.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020Neo-nazis are well known for their views on race. You pick at the edges of my argument and divert onto Hilary and take my analogy with Carter to silly places. But offer not serious counter arguments.
You’re flailing and Trump’s failing. Sad.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020Why would I offer any ‘counter’? You are not interested in any challenge to your view, anything that does challenge it causes you pain.
I’m asking you what the purpose of all this is, and you can’t answer that. Trump has no need of the ‘neo-nazi’ vote, it’s a laughably small number of people would could be described as such. Yet, here you are believing Trumps advertising is full of symbolism sending messages to neonazis.
I am picking at the very heart of your argument; WHY? For what purpose? What is this message?
What you appear to be doing is simply believing that many tens of millions of Americans are, in your mind, neo-nazi’s. You even imply that I am in this discussion.
What makes someone a neo-nazi?
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020As for the Russians!!!!!!! hoax. Show a single source that has any supporting data on anything they did that made a difference in the voting in the election. Show that.
4 years of investigations, an impeachment and there is still nothing. Under oath, every single person who claimed to have ‘evidence’ admitted they had not a damn thing.
The Russians spent tens of thousands of dollars on Facebook ads and you think that swung the election? You may as well just blame the neo-Nazi’s.
The data you need to look at is who turned out and compare it to previous elections. Trump’s result was almost identical to Mitt Romney’s. Mitt would have won against Clinton with an almost identical electoral collage result if he repeated his 2012 result. I guess that was neo nazis as well.
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“The data you need to look at is who turned out and compare it to previous elections.”
That’s only one part of the whole picture. Why did fewer people vote for Clinton than Obama? Why did three times as many vote for an independent candidate? Plenty of likely possible reasons. Elections are complex, especially the US presidential. Cherry picking reasons to suit a bias is misguided and misleading.
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“Show a single source that has any supporting data on anything they did that made a difference in the voting in the election. Show that.”
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/24/716374421/fact-check-russian-interference-went-far-beyond-facebook-ads-kushner-described
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020Why? Cos it’s all he’s got to campaign on. He can’t boast about the fabulous wall he built, or his healthcare reforms, or a booming economy. He’s delivered none of those. And before you decide to shift blame away from the “very stable genius” who is “the greatest deal maker of all time” remember he claimed to be; a very stable genius who was the greatest deal maker of all time. Pfffft.
He’s got nothing to campaign on but his follower’s prejudices and hatreds. So that’s what he is doing.
Pete George
/ 19th June 2020Gezza
/ 19th June 2020Trump’s going full moron to win the election.
Mind you, other morons will still support him.
Gezza
/ 19th June 2020We should be able to count some of them who visit here from the downticks above.
David
/ 19th June 2020It’s a symbol,used by Antfa which the ad was aimed at. In case you are unaware Trumps favourite child, closest advisor and some of his oldest friends are Jews.
Trump has been in the public eye for 30 years with many black friends and overnight he is now a vicious racist. Shut up with the total nonsense the guy doubled the funding of black colleges, passed the first step act and many other iniatives.
Patzcuaro
/ 19th June 2020Saint Donald?
Alan Wilkinson
/ 19th June 2020Exactly. How much fake news do you folk swallow? The symbol was being used to flag the Antifa rioters the Trump advt was attacking, not to promote Trump’s campaign for heavens sake. Get your facts straight before you comment and that requires reading a bit more widely than the anti-Trump fake news propagandists.
Gezza
/ 20th June 2020It’s a backfire.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 20th June 2020No, it’s just plain MSM misrepresentation feeding ignorance.
atheistmilitantsrising
/ 20th June 2020[Deleted abusive content]
White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter
Some of the posts feature a screenshot of a tweet by a fake antifa Twitter account that Twitter said was created by the white nationalist group Identity Evropa.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/06/19/white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa-called-for-violence-on-twitter/
Twitter says fake “Antifa” account was run by white supremacists
Twitter has shut down multiple accounts that it says were operated by a white supremacist group posing as liberal groups encouraging violence. Twitter said the white supremacist group Identity Evropa used one fake account, @Antifa_US, to call for violence in majority white suburbs, in the name of the Black Lives Matter movement.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/06/19/twitter-says-fake-antifa-account-was-run-by-white-supremacists/
Rick Wiles Wants Trump to Arrest Liberals, Torture Them
Right-wing conspiracy nut Rick Wiles is always preaching that liberals want to round up conservative activists and torture them. Perhaps he was just fantasizing because that’s exactly what he says Trump should do.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/06/07/wiles-wants-trump-to-arrest-liberals-torture-them/
Christian Conspiracist: Black Lives Matter and Antifa Leaders Must Be Executed
John Guandolo, a disgraced former FBI agent who appears to treat all brown people with beards as a threat to national security and once said Muslim women shouldn’t be allowed to hold public office, now has an even worse opinion. He wants to see Black Lives Matter and Antifa leaders executed.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/06/13/christian-conspiracist-black-lives-matter-and-antifa-leaders-must-be-executed/
Acts of Treason, Acts of War
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/06/16/acts-of-treason-acts-of-war/
Trumpster Terrorist Busted For Purposefully Spreading the Virus Should Get A Death Penalty Punishment
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/03/26/trumpster-terrorist-busted-for-purposefully-spreading-the-virus-should-get-a-death-penalty-punishment/
FBI: Man ‘Fatally Injured’ During Domestic Terrorism Arrest, Had Plotted Attack on Hospital Amid Coronavirus Pandemic
A man fatally injured by the FBI was planning a bomb attack on a medical facility in the Kansas City area, the agency said in a news release Wednesday.
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/03/27/fbi-man-fatally-injured-during-domestic-terrorism-arrest-had-plotted-attack-on-hospital-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/
Robert Jeffress, Rick Wiles, Franklin Graham and Jim Bakker, ChristoFascist Talibans calling for the slaughter of innocent people in defense of Traitor Trump
Rick Wiles: There Will Be “Violence in America” If Donald Trump Is Impeached
https://atheistmilitantsrising.home.blog/2020/01/25/robert-jeffress-rick-wiles-franklin-graham-and-jim-bakker-christofascist-talibans-calling-for-the-slaughter-of-innocent-people-in-defense-of-traitor-trump/
Report: Over 100 Militant Groups Have Been Promoting Second Civil War on Facebook
The Tech Transparency Project (TTP), a research group focused on exposing large platforms’ misconduct and influence, released a report finding that 125 Facebook groups are promoting the “boogaloo,” a term far-right groups use to refer to a wishful Civil War sequel. The boogaloo appears to have mutated from a joking 4chan meme into a real-life movement of militiamen (“Boojihadeens”) late last year. But the TTP found a surge in boogaloo interest over the past few months, correlating with social distancing measures. According to the report, over 60 percent of the Facebook groups cropped up in the past three months and, as a whole, have attracted over 36,000 members in the last 30 days.
https://gizmodo.com/report-over-100-militant-groups-have-been-promoting-se-1843051231
Alan Wilkinson
/ 20th June 2020In a country of 300M it only takes 0.01% of nutters to add up to 30,000. Better to focus on the other 99.99%.
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020Why? 30,000 heavy armed and deeply disturbed morons is more of a cause for concern.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 21st June 2020Compared with 300M not all heavily armed or disturbed non-morons?
Besides which viewing a nutter’s publications is an insufficient diagnostic tool to confirm those attributes.
atheistmilitantsrising
/ 20th June 2020[Deleted, this sort of abuse is not acceptable here. PG]
Gerrit
/ 20th June 2020Some rational debate there…nah.
There are better blog to vent your spleen, suggest a certain bombers blog.
You will feel right at home.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 20th June 2020A loony Lefty missing his riot as well as his mind. What a mess.
atheistmilitantsrising
/ 26th June 2020[Deleted, this is totally inappropriate here. PG]
FaremerPete
/ 20th June 2020Websites in the US reporting this am that these symbols have been associated with Antifa. I have no idea if that is true, but I am 100% certain that the Trump campaign would not knowingly feed the outrage mob by running ads with Nazi symbols.
Pete George
/ 20th June 2020“Websites in the US reporting this”
There’s a wide variety of websites that ‘report’ things in the US, including deliberately misleading and false claims.
The Trump campaign claimed the symbols were connected to ‘Antifa’ (which is not a thing, it is a loose association of a wide variety of groups and individuals).
But from Fox news:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/facebook-removes-trump-campaign-ad-about-far-left-groups-says-it-shows-hate-groups-symbol
But the Trump campaign claims have been disputed by the ADL themselves.
artcroft
/ 20th June 2020I looked on google images for antifa symbols. The red triangle doesn’t appear, just a doulble flag red and black captured within a black circle.
The fact is Trump has never denounced the far-right, and used all their symbols. You can’t just say “well it seems implausible so it can’t be so.” It’s happened too much. It’s an entrenched pattern. Plus his followers are all into exactly these sorts of secret messages and signs. So Trump is signalling them.
Pink David
/ 20th June 2020“Plus his followers are all into exactly these sorts of secret messages and signs”
What is the message?
Call me Ishmael...
/ 20th June 2020This narrative about the red triangle being associated with antifa has been hyped up online by Trump supporters. But its all just more of the same divisive political theatre that Trump revels in.
A Google search of antifa symbols only brings up connections to the upside down red triangle in relation to this latest story.
Moreover it seems that according to the US Department of Homeland Security the US government itself doesn’t view antifa as a significant threat in the homeland. It’s groups like the far-right racist boogaloo movement that are flagged by the DHS as the greater threat to law enforcement.
And the federal and local arrest records from the past 3 weeks of demonstrations make virtually no mention of antifa.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/19/leaked-document-makes-trumps-use-nazi-era-symbol-look-worse/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-antifa-absent/2020/06/13/7f14b8fa-ab80-11ea-9063-e69bd6520940_story.html
Call me Ishmael...
/ 20th June 2020Trump posted a deranged video on Twitter a couple of days ago which falsely depicted a CNN report about a “racist baby” on the loose, Twitter responded by placing a “Manipulated Media” warning label on his tweet.
Now both Facebook and Twitter have taken the video down because Trump breached copyright of the owners of the video (shades of the National Party’s breach of Eminem’s copyright in 2017).
Zuckerberg has long been hesitant to take any action against Trump. But thus far this week he has banned a Trump campaign ad which featured a Nazi symbol, and now taken down his toddler video as well.
Trump’s losing that ‘glow of infallibility’ that he had, from his bullying-apprentice days. Even the people who profit from his antics are stepping back.
Call me Ishmael...
/ 20th June 2020and it’s also fair to remind ourselves that Trump has been down the Nazi dog-whistle pathway before
Harry
/ 20th June 2020Sometimes a triangle is just a triangle…
Also – there are 88 keys on a piano. They are both black and white. Is that racist?