Fauci on Covid in US – “It could get very bad”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease expert at the US National Institutes of Health, has told the US Congress he is “quite concerned” about the surge in Covid cases in a number of states and new case numbers may more than double if it isn’t contained.

USA Today: Dr. Anthony Fauci tells Congress new coronavirus cases could reach 100,000 a day without changes

New coronavirus infections could increase to 100,000 a day if the nation doesn’t get its surge of cases under control, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress Tuesday.

“We’ve really got to do something about that and we need to deal with it quickly,” he testified. “It could get very bad.”

 said the surge has been caused both by some areas reopening too quickly and by people not following guidelines.

“We’ve got to get that message out that we are all in this together,” Fauci told the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. “And if we are going to contain this, we’ve got to contain it together.”

Fauci, said he’s “quite concerned” about what’s happening in many states.

Asked what’s going wrong, he said several states may have moved “too quickly” and skipped over some of the checkpoints laid out for a safe reopening.

But even in areas where state and local officials followed the federal guidelines, people acted as if all restrictions had been lifted, he said.

“What we saw were a lot of people who maybe felt that because they think they are invulnerable, and we know many young people are not because they’re getting serious disease, that therefore they’re getting infected has nothing at all to do with anyone else, when in fact it does,” Fauci said.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., opened the hearing on the state of the coronavirus pandemic by reupping his past recommendation that President Donald Trump wear a mask to reduce the political divide on that health recommendation.

But Trump thinks that people wear masks to”signal disapproval” of him, and Trump ‘eager’ for more rallies despite Fauci ‘plea’ that people avoid crowds

President Trump’s campaign said he wanted to hold more rallies, even as states wrestle with a surge in the number of new coronavirus cases.

“President Trump is eager to keep hitting the campaign trail and holding more rallies to speak directly to the American people,” Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh said in a statement to the Washington Examiner.

“Even though many people, for a variety of reasons, do not listen to the, not suggestion, but plea to not congregate in crowds, some people are going to do that anyway,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during a committee hearing last week.

“If you do, please wear a mask,” he said.

Trump has been seen wearing a mask publicly only once and said last week he believed some people wore masks to “signal disapproval” of him.

More from yesterday’s hearing:

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., opened the hearing on the state of the coronavirus pandemic by reupping his past recommendation that President Donald Trump wear a mask to reduce the political divide on that health recommendation.

“The president has plenty of admirers,” Alexander said. “They would follow his lead.”

Except Trump isn’t leading, he’s flailing and floundering, and polls suggest the number of admirers is rapidly shrinking see RCP average 55.4% unfavourable (-14.6%), and FiveThirtyEight 56.4% Disapprove (-16%).

Washington Sen. Patty Murray, top Democrat on the Senate Health, Education Labor and Pensions Committee, tore into Trump in her opening comments.

“We’ve seen a leadership crisis raging in the White House as the president proves time after time he cares less about how this pandemic is impacting families and communities and more about how it makes him look,” she said.

His latest tweets don’t make him look very good:

Who is ‘they’? Those trying to protect Americans from Covid?

The White House has often presented a rosier picture of the pandemic than what health officials describe.

Asked Monday about Azar’s warning, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said the president is encouraged that there has been a decline in fatality rates and an increase in effective treatments.

“These things make us uniquely equipped to handle the increase in cases that we’ve seen,” McEnany said.

“I’m not satisfied with what’s going on,” Fauci said, “because we’re going in the wrong direction.”

Case numbers are certainly surging in the wrong direction in the US. It’s too soon to tell whether the death rate follows suit, but it is bad enough as it is despite dropping from peaking in April-May.

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  1. You know my view on how badly Trump has failed the American people on this pandemic so I won’t belabour the point.

    But it’s bad enough that Mitch McConnell is now distancing himself from the SS Trumptanic

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  2. duperez

     /  1st July 2020

    The Lone Warrior and they’re all out to get him? Well.

    In the White House press briefing this morning McEnany had it that the news stories saying that in February Trump got the regular President’s Daily Briefing which carried stuff about Russian bounties on US soldiers are wrong. He didn’t get information about that because it was ‘unverified’ she said.

    She said that Trump (The Lone Warrior) was all about protecting the lives of American soldiers. Paradoxical that those who have leaked information about the episode say they have taken action to protect the lives of service people. McEnany has them “betraying the trust of the American people.”

    The gulf between opinions on just about everything in the US is shown by the viewer comments of the briefing this morning. The Fox coverage (McEnany starts at 21:50) show that whatever Trump and his team put forward is supported 100% by some. In his Covid-19 response, or anything, to them he is and has been brilliant and is being unfairly attacked.

    Contrast the comments on another feed:

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  1st July 2020

      Taking a leaf from Alan, the Loony Warrior?

      Loony definition:
      adjective
      lunatic; insane.
      extremely or senselessly foolish.

      Trump seems to tick that box

      Warrior definition:
      noun
      a person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier.
      a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics.

      Trump has no experience as a soldier due to unfortunately having bone spurs on his heels but could qualify as a warrior under the aggressiveness in politics category. Maybe a loony keyboard warrior.

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      • Well, Patz, he did spend the time sleeping around, which was ‘his Vietnam’, as women’s bits are as dangerous as minefields according to him. and he managed to avoid STDs from these dangerous places.

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  3. David

     /  1st July 2020

    Its no surprise there is a surge 3 plus weeks since the protests kicked off but the new infections are in a much younger cohort and there seems so far no problems with the hospital system. I heard in Florida the average age has gone from 65 to 35 so these cases are in people with a minuscule risk of a bad outcome.
    There were reports about Texas being overwhelmed but that turned out to be more fake news as well.
    Leicester in the UK has had a huge jump but some 2/3rds of the area effected are immigrants or people who have english as a 2nd language such is the utter hopelessness of the woke UK government to integrate even 3rd and 4th generations. Its a language and messaging problem about staying safe and an adherence to being at mosque and living in crowded accommodation.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st July 2020

      That’s not so much an integration problem as an assimilation one. If they required immigrants to assimilate they would have to learn English if they didn’t know & speak it. As they’ve gone for integration instead that increases the need to provide for translation & interpreters.

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  4. Patzcuaro

     /  1st July 2020

    “Goldman Sachs says a national mask mandate could slash infections and save economy from a 5% hit”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/goldman-sachs-says-a-national-mask-mandate-could-slash-infections-and-save-economy-from-a-5percent-hit.html

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    • Harry

       /  1st July 2020

      So you trust Goldman Sachs, also known as the vampire squid. They have probably invested in face mask production. Face masks, the new virtue signaling.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  1st July 2020

        It seems logical to me that, if you can get more economic activity without increasing infection rates by wearing a mask, that it is a good thing.

        No not virtue signaling just common sense.

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        • David

           /  1st July 2020

          Logically you cant federally order mask wearing because what works in New York is pointless in Wyoming. Its not like here where Ardern can decree things they have states there and they take their local governance pretty seriously and thats the best place to make them.
          Folk know they can smack Trump around with this one he is in a no win situation. Having said that he is not performing particularly well at the moment.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  1st July 2020

            Obviously there are going to be regional differences but even some of the less populous states have been hit, for instance in meat or chicken processing plants that haven’t been built with social distancing in mind.
            Even if you can’t federally mandate wearing masks, the President could have shown some leadership rather than turning it into something political.

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        • Pink David

           /  1st July 2020

          “No not virtue signaling just common sense.”

          How many times have you, since the beginning of the year, worn a mask?

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  1st July 2020

            A couple of times at the supermarket during lockdown., it is not necessary in NZ at the moment but I would definitely be wearing on it I was in the US.

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            • Pink David

               /  1st July 2020

              How do you judge this ‘necessary’?

            • Patzcuaro

               /  2nd July 2020

              Well I just use common sense, if there is a risk of community transfer or if there was a risk I had been exposed to the virus, I would wear a mask especially if I couldn’t social distance.

      • Was that meant to be ‘vampire squad’ ? I do like ‘vampire squid’; a happy typo 😀

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        • Kitty, Matt Taibbi coined the phrase in 2009 in Rolling Stone. The opening lines of his story read: “The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it’s everywhere. The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.”

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  5. Conspiratoor

     /  1st July 2020

    Meantime the covid death rate across the USA continues to fall. From a peak of 3,000 to a little over 300

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    • Duker

       /  1st July 2020

      June 30 was 764. The 300 you mention is just the low weekly point in the reporting
      7 day moving average is 581 is more realistic figure

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    • Blazer

       /  1st July 2020

      is that a day?

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  1st July 2020

      As you say deaths are down but numbers in hospital is ticking up which would be a precursor to an increase in deaths. Deaths are going to lag increased infection numbers by a couple of weeks.

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  1st July 2020

        Ok so what you seem to be saying is the lag follows the lead. Sounds reasonable. Or could it be the surge in cases is simply a reflection of the increasing rate of testing as your graph suggests

        Let’s revisit this in 2 weeks

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  2nd July 2020

          It all depends on the positivity rate (percentage of tests thst come back positive) of the testing, the positivity rate needs to be falling for the outbreak to be bring controlled. A rising positivity rate indicates there are more undetected case in the population.

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      • Pink David

         /  1st July 2020

        “Deaths are going to lag increased infection numbers by a couple of weeks.”

        You are ignoring the age data. The increase is almost entirely in the 20-29 age group. That age group simply does not die from Covid-19.

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  2nd July 2020

          The 20-29 age group may not die but they are keeping the virus circulating in the population which increases the risk of it spreading to other age groups with higher morbidity. Not exactly community minded.

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          • Gezza

             /  2nd July 2020

            Why would they be community-minded? The mortality rate is highest among to older generations. They’re young & bulletproof & want to be out & about enjoying themselves with their peers, as we were at those ages. They’re fed a constant diet of news about how the selfish older generation is responsible for every ill in their society, as we were.

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          • Pink David

             /  2nd July 2020

            “The 20-29 age group may not die but they are keeping the virus circulating in the population”

            This is a good thing.

            “increases the risk of it spreading to other age groups with higher morbidity.”

            There is no evidence for this. Groups in high risk should take suitable precautions. The greatest error, aside from the lockdown itself, has been hospitals being emptied into rest homes in the UK Italy, NY. This has cost tens of thousands of lives.

            ” Not exactly community minded.”

            Were is the ‘community minded’ in watching peoples jobs, businesses, and lives disintegrate, locking healthy people into their homes, just so you ‘feel’ protected? Not to mention the colossal debt that generations will need to pay back. Just so you can reduce your risk of death by about 1%.

            Profoundly narcissistic.

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    • What’s happening to Florida? Caught in the grip of ballooning positive tests for COVID and “coincidentally” experiencing their worst “pneumonia” pandemic in years.

      Deaths in Florida attributed to pneumonia and excluding influenza (from the CDC):
      919 deaths throughout 2015
      958 deaths throughout 2016
      944 deaths throughout 2017
      935 deaths throughout 2018
      7,093 deaths in the first six months of 2020

      Florida offficials are listing pneumonia as the immediate cause of death, with COVID as a secondary factor … but they are only reporting the primary cause.

      Something stinks like a rotten fish and I suspect DeSantis is its head

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    • What’s happening to Texas? Caught in the grip of ballooning positive tests for COVID and “coincidentally” experiencing their worst “pneumonia” pandemic in years.

      Deaths in Texas attributed to pneumonia and excluding influenza (from the CDC):
      1067 deaths throughout 2015
      1027 deaths throughout 2016
      903 deaths throughout 2017
      973 deaths throughout 2018
      6,643 deaths in the first six months of 2020

      Texas offficials are listing pneumonia as the immediate cause of death, with COVID as a secondary factor … but they are only reporting the primary cause.

      Something stinks in Texas and I suspect Greg Abbott

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  6. Blazer

     /  1st July 2020

    flashback ..U.S patriotism replete with the Star Spangled Banner…

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    • duperez

       /  1st July 2020

      Did you spot Fred Trump in the mass?

      “On Memorial Day in 1927, the Ku Klux Klan marched in Queens to protest Protestant American citizens being “assaulted by Roman Catholic police of New York City.” Trump and six other men were arrested “on a charge of refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so.” All seven arrested were referred to as “berobed marchers” in the Long Island Daily Press; Trump was the only one not held on charges.”

      “When asked about the issue in September 2015 after Boing Boing dug up the article, his son Donald Trump, then a candidate for president of the United States, denied that his father had ever been arrested.”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

      (That denial bit is a surprise. Not.)

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