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  1. Gezza

     /  2nd July 2020
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    • Duker

       /  2nd July 2020

      Not illegal . NZ only involved in reconstruction in Bamiyan province ( where we had our own base) and security in Kabul where the they got free food.
      They were supposed to bill NZ as per our agreement signed by Key government but US government auditors found they hadnt.
      Nice to see that one country does check the spending throughly….Americas Cup here seems to be looked as easy St and of course we will never see the full forensic auditors report

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      • Gezza

         /  2nd July 2020

        Why did we even have a provincial reconstruction team there? Because the place was so bloody destroyed. The US invasion of Afghanistan was illegal. The results, including the removal from power of the Taliban & the US attempt to establish and maintain democratic system of government in a country that clearly isn’t ready for one, & all the subsequent destruction, and ongoing of killing of both insurgents, & innocents – by all parties, with the added appearance of ISIS now adding to the murderous mess, as far as I am concerned, all flow from that illegal US & coalition parties’ act of war.

        The Taliban have even seized control once more of areas NZDF were. The population of Afghanistan have often been in the awful position of being terrorised & killed by US & Allied & Afghan Army forces who suspect them of being Taliban, & then by Taliban forces who suspect them of aiding those same forces.

        We should not associate with the US in tidying up the results their illegal wars. It legitimizes them.

        It appears quite likely the Taliban will soon enuf take over again once the US leaves, which it desperately wants to do under Trump.

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  2. David

     /  2nd July 2020

    Good to see the riot police have gone into Chop/Chaz in Seattle and taken back control of the city from the lawless mob. Violent crime was up 500% including rape and assault and there were 2 murders which made it one of the most dangerous places on earth.
    Welcome to the vision of the future that BLM, parts of the Democrat party and the incomprehensibly stupid woke university educated children want.
    Time for the adults to be put back in charge and if the boy Mayor from Minneapolis hadnt let things run wild and allowed the police to stop his city being set on fire and looted this nonsense wouldnt have spread, in the end the mob rejected the Mayor as well as not sufficiently woke enough.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  2nd July 2020

      I forgot everything you wrote when I came to the “woke” word…god i hate that word
      “woke”,its like saying bro all the time

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  2nd July 2020

      ” this nonsense wouldnt have spread”

      What you are essential saying is that there are no racial tensions in the US and the killing of George Floyd was an isolated incident. If your view is correct then “this nonsense” wouldn’t have spread as there are no underlying issues.

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      • David

         /  2nd July 2020

        To clarify, the nonsense was the rioting and looting and taking over 6 city blocks.
        I am totally on board with the protests they are wholly justified the guy was literally assasinated in cold blood in full view of the public.

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        • Corky

           /  2nd July 2020

          Great stuff. Can you imagine this happening at Ihumatao? Of course not, The gummint spends our money to buy compliance.

          https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/protests/seattle-police-capitol-hill-chop-chaz/281-6253a20a-127b-4cd7-93dd-43f3f008afd0

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  2nd July 2020

            It is better for the cohesiveness of society in the long term for these issues to be resolved peacefully rather than at the end of a baton. It is called compromising.

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            • Corky

               /  2nd July 2020

              Yes, I agree. Mutual respect?

            • Patzcuaro

               /  2nd July 2020

              Mutual respect? It swings both ways, the dominant culture has to respect the minority rather than take it for granted. It make take a while to rebalance society to allow for mutual respect.

        • Patzcuaro

           /  2nd July 2020

          Rioting & looting don’t take place in a vacuum, you need underlying social inequity and then you need a trigger. The corona virus pandemic has exacerbated the social inequity in the US where minorities have been harder hit by the virus and resulting job losses.

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          • Pink David

             /  2nd July 2020

            “The corona virus pandemic has exacerbated the social inequity in the US where minorities have been harder hit by the virus and resulting job losses.”

            It has been the governments response to Covid that has cause this, not Covid. Almost like there is a downside to destroying people’s lives locking them into their homes.

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            • Patzcuaro

               /  2nd July 2020

              Unfortunately there is little alternative to lockdowns once the virus takes hold. If you take the lasair faire approach the health services will be overwhelmed. The earlier you recognize the problem and take action (such as in NZ) the lower the cost, the sooner you get out.

              The aim is to manage the outbreak so we are in charge not the virus. We are gaining knowledge about the virus which is giving better medical outcomes to those that catch COVID-19. This should reduce the death rate.

              There is no free pass here, which ever route you take there is a cost, all you can do is hope to minimize the cost. Lives are going to be destroyed whichever route you take.

              I would suggest that the US is having a worse outcome because of a lack of cohesion in their society with severe economic inequities.

            • Laisser faire, or laissez faire depending on whether it’s infinitive or imperative..

              As all our cases came in through airports, the ignoring of the calls to test and isolate before it began to spread rather than locking down everyone for a handful of cases once it did was insanity. This worked in Kerala, Taiwan and Vietnam; no lockdowns, very few cases of covid.

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    • Corky

       /  2nd July 2020

      Maori bullies who know if they keep banging on long enough, they will get what they want.
      If Tracy Martin goes at the next election; Moss won’t be far behind.

      “We’re all mothers, aunties and grandmothers who love our babies deeply, so to be confronted with yet another reminder of the systemic dysfunction of Oranga Tamariki is heartbreaking.”

      Someone needs to tell these pensioners the systemic dysfunction is in Maoridom. And that leaves others to pick up the mess.

      You can bet the next CEO of OT will be Maori. She will have a big taonga draped around her neck. She will have exquisite hand gestures and a knowing smile… but things will remain the same apart for the dwindling number of European social workers who will be replaced by more appropriate people from the correct racial minority.

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      • Gezza

         /  2nd July 2020

        It’s got all the symptoms of an overburdened organisation that’s been restructured multiple times & hasn’t got enough people with the right background AND qualifications to put the money into front line services where it’s needed.

        Putting a red-headed Irish Catholic woman with an unrelated private sector corporate background and a seemingly bullish management style into that job was always a bad look & likely to produce a confused, conflicted & unhappy workforce.

        There IS massive dysfuction in too many Maori families, & I too am tired of seeing prominent Maori women publicly proclaiming that whanau are the solution after so many reports of children who have been abused by the very same whanau, including those other whanau members or their partners into whose care they were placed because they weren’t safe with their own mothers or partners.

        But creating yet more disharmony & dysfunction in Child & Youth Services only worsens the problem. Moss’s saving grace might yet be that the stats cited by Newsroom in the article below show that fewer placements have been needed & fewer rangatahi are going in to the Youth Justice System.

        I don’t know what the solution is. If not enough suitably trained Maori are entering the service these prominent wahine need to show HOW they are going to solve the problem their own whanau are creating.

        Just saying give US the money isn’t good enuf.

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        • Corky

           /  2nd July 2020

          I haven’t read any of the reports. I didn’t even watch the uplift doco based around the removal of a baby from Hastings Hospital.

          Like you, I wouldn’t have a clue on how to fix this problem. All I know is they can configure these organisations anyway they want, and the outcomes generally seem to be the same.

          I would have no problem if a Maori organisation was put on probation while they proved to the public they could deliver results and help Maori. Unfortunately past results have left me with a jaundiced view of government bureaucracy and Maori organisations abilities to tackle these problems.

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    • Gezza

       /  2nd July 2020

      Well, my initial reaction was Ttypical” but after reading this Newsroom Investigation article (&, to a lesser extent, the earlier less detailed one linked in it about the strange, secretive & sudden departure from Grainne Moss from her previous NZ Bupa CEO job) it’s not surprising.

      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/the-brave-new-world-of-oranga-tamariki

      The “toxic” & punitive culture, expensive & expanding management structure, unqualified & inexperienced staff & supervisors, inadequate social worker staffing, retributive reaction to internal staff questions, complaints or criticisms, replacement of workshop-& experience-based training with inadequate in-house box-ticking e-learning & isolation of senior executive managers from the front-line experience sound very familiar to someone like me who’s worked a department that went thru such ructions more than once.

      Management incomptence was a feature. Not all managers, but those who were incompetent needed another restructure to get rid of, & when the top person appointed them one had to question their competence too.

      I never understood how Moss got the job & when I read all the bright & breezy comms material on their website about the brave new world she was creating when she took ot up it smelt like a typical corporate PR campaign which would belie the reality of how it would work in practice.

      Sounds like an awful place to work. Ordinarily I’d take these sorts of criticisms with a grain of salt. There are always unhappy staff who moan about their boss & don’t like change. But Oranga Tamariki has been the subject of too many critical reports & collectively these all suggest to me it’s an awful place to work where loyalty & obedience to the CEO & her “leadership team” are more important than doing your job properly.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  2nd July 2020

        I know two families landed with out of control, druggie female relatives – mothers to a succession of unfortunate children of different fathers – who are causing immense stress to their host families while OT does absolutely nothing to get them out and care for their children.

        Both families made the mistake of thinking they could offer temporary respite only to find no OT response and their “guests” clinging like leaches woth built in child care leaving them free to disappear to indulge their drug habit and reappear at will.

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  4. Duker

     /  2nd July 2020

    “Hong Kong protesters in New Zealand are worried they could be arrested if they return home because they have attended political demonstrations here.”
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/420301/hong-kong-protesters-in-new-zealand-worried-about-new-national-security-law

    its step 1 in how-to-get-student-visa-into-nz-residency

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    • Corky

       /  2nd July 2020

      Until reports come in of protesters disappearing off the face of the earth in HK. These protesters are brave people. I couldn’t begin to imagine what Comrade Chen would do in a interrogation room.

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    • duperez

       /  2nd July 2020

      It’s an interesting situation. The views of MP Jian Yang will be interesting too.

      No doubt we’ll hear him interviewed by Lisa Owen, John Campbell, Duncan Garner, Mike Hosking, and Corin Dann and hear or read the followup from the likes of Tova O’Brien, Audrey Young and David Farrar. 🙃

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      • Blazer

         /  2nd July 2020

        Dr Jians lips are …sealed….to any english speaking journos anyway.

        Just the ticket ,a communist ex spy trainer…..part of the Nats talented team.

        People around the world are absolutely dumbstruck at his presence in the NZ Parliament.

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        • duperez

           /  2nd July 2020

          I’m trying to work out why Lisa Owen, John Campbell, Duncan Garner, Mike Hosking, Corin Dann, Tova O’Brien, Audrey Young, David Farrar, Mark Richardson, Peter Williams et al aren’t dumbstruck and chasing him down.

          If there is a situation which any Minister or ordinary MP would possibly have in their ‘field of interest’ those mentioned would make sure they seen and heard from.

          Duker links to local Chinese people and their fears. Yang’s low profile has been excused by it being said he’s involved on the ground with people of Chinese background and doesn’t need to operate in the ‘normal’ way.

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          • Blazer

             /  2nd July 2020

            National play the ‘racist’ card if his recalcitrance is…questioned.

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        • People round the world probably have no idea who he is and no interest in him, rather than being dumbstruck at his being here. There are more interesting and urgent things going on. Do keep up with world events.

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    • Pink David

       /  2nd July 2020

      “its step 1 in how-to-get-student-visa-into-nz-residency”

      Don’t panic Duker, those filthy foreigners with HK passports will be able to get citizenship in the UK and the US. They will not be polluting your neighborhood, which clearly is keeping you up at night.

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  5. Corky

     /  2nd July 2020

    I would like to know who Scott Morrison’s brujo is. That guy casts powerful magic. After the bushfires, I thought Morrison would be history. But latest polls have him sitting at 68% approval.

    Maybe the answer lies not in magic, but in Morrison’s ability to plan ahead based on reality.
    I don’t know why Aussies fawn over Jacinda. Reality isn’t her strong point.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-01/defence-spending-scott-morrison-miliatry-strategy-jennett/12410464

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    • Blazer

       /  2nd July 2020

      Morrison is popular because the economy is being pumped full of money to mask the recession.
      Sabre rattling about the China threat also goes down well with the average …aussie flyswatter.

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      • Corky

         /  2nd July 2020

        ‘Sabre rattling about the China threat also goes down well with the average …aussie flyswatter.”

        You spend too much time listening to NSR. In case you haven’t noticed…China has already fired the first shots in a quiet war. And, don’t you become upset at the mention of the Chinese spy, er, I mean National MP who used to teach Chinese spies our korero.

        ‘Morrison is popular because the economy is being pumped full of money to mask the recession.’

        That may be true. The strategy sounds familiar.

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  6. Gerrit

     /  2nd July 2020

    Clark has resigned as Health Minister. About time too.

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    • Corky

       /  2nd July 2020

      Was he pushed because the collateral damage was becoming too great. Or, did his morals get the better of him, and he decided to do the right thing?

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    • duperez

       /  2nd July 2020

      There are some who put the dire situation the country is in with Covid-19 down to Clark.

      He wasn’t as outwardly positive as he should have been. How we hoped to hear, “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine. It’ll be over in a couple of days, it’s going to disappear. It’s like a miracle, it will disappear. This is a very contagious virus, it’s incredible, but it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

      That would have boosted our confidence and things wouldn’t have turned out so bad.

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      • But it wouldn’t have given the PM the publicity opportunity to end all publicity opportunities (until the inexcusable stuff-ups began to appear, when suddenly it wasn’t her doing)

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        • duperez

           /  2nd July 2020

          Mistakes should not be made. The correct decisions and actions should always be made.

          Now, that said, how many millions of individual actions and decisions were made around the Covid situation, by how many people, in how many environments and circumstances and what number or what percentage of them were faulty, bad or wrong?

          Since Clark was the Minister I appreciate that some think he should have resigned immediately the first one was made of course. Oh, and Ardern too of course.

          The media thing around Ardern might in New Zealand political terms be a phenomenon, no more so than the paranoia about her the media and publicity opportunities.

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  7. duperez

     /  2nd July 2020

    David Clark gone.

    “His resignation came after weeks of damaging revelations about his handling of the health portfolio, including the mismanagement of quarantine and managed isolation facilities designed to stop the spread of Covid-19 into New Zealand. One such case saw two people with Covid-19 released early from managed isolation early and without being tested.”

    He should go because he is naive. Maybe I’m naive too as I still can’t understand how he ‘mismanaged’ isolation facilities so that two people were released early. Realistically Ardern ‘mismanaged’ by having Clark in the job so that he could ‘mismanage.’ She should go too.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300047391/live-beleaguered-health-minister-david-clark-to-resign

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    • Gezza

       /  2nd July 2020

      Ardern explains why he should NOT go here:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120870368/coronavirus-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-fronting-daily-update-after-demoting-her-health-minister

      Looking forward to her explanation of why he should go now. Will it be because he now knows less about the health system than then?

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      • Blazer

         /  2nd July 2020

        would you prefer he stay G?

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        • Gezza

           /  2nd July 2020

          Doesn’t matter.

          I’d prefer that he left back when Ardern said she should have sacked him, & that he said he didn’t intend to stand for Parliament again. No use having him just making up the numbers next time. Pick a candidate who would make a good Minister one day. It’s unlikely he ever will.

          But what I find embarrassing for Ardern is that she effectively said it would be too difficult for good governance in the health arena to bring in a new health minister so close to an election, & now she has to – and the election is even closer. He’s made her look weak & her justification last time like bullshit, by resigning himself, too late.

          Someone else has to pick up the load. Hipkins. So presumably he could have done that earlier.

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  8. Pink David

     /  2nd July 2020

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    • Corky

       /  2nd July 2020

      Notice the guy ( I use the term loosely) in green. Our cultural heritage for future generations to either add to or ask themselves what the fuck was wrong with people of past generations.

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      • Blazer

         /  2nd July 2020

        is the fact that the individual you identify is not wearing a bra the cause of your concern?

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        • Corky

           /  2nd July 2020

          Yes, I see what you mean. He/she could be transitioning. I get so confused.

          In my days it was simple: Fellas, sheilas and queers.

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      • Someone with a skirt and boobs is probably a girl, not a ‘guy’. Corky is a bit confused about these things.

        Being gay is not a gender. Gay men have the same bits as straight men, and lesbians have the same bits as straight women.Trans people have whatever they happen to have as individuals.

        Being gender-diverse has been around as long as human beings have; it’s not a modern invention, Corky. Do try to keep up.

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    • duperez

       /  2nd July 2020

      This is terrible and disgusting and shouldn’t be allowed to happen. It’s far worse than more than a hundred years of everyday inequities and savagery.

      Ian Mills Cheong or someone else would need to post about a zillion incidents such as this to even be starting out on one of the old knee on the neck trick until dead situations.

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      • Blazer

         /  2nd July 2020

        A couple of strawberry toppers straight out of an Enid Blyton…novel.

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        • What on earth do you mean ? What is a strawberry topper, and where is there anything in Enid Blyton that even remotely resembles this situation?

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        • Which of her books has anything like this in it ? You do realise that she wrote children’s books, don’t you ?

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          • Blazer

             /  2nd July 2020

            you’re right….I remember now Noddy,Big Ears,the evil golliwogs and…plod!

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            • Your memory is wrong.The golliwogs were not evil and the policeman’s name was Mr Plod, not ‘plod’. The view of the golliwogs is largely modern PC revisionism. Many of the characters behaved badly, not just them, and others were worse.

              The Noddy books were only a small part of her output.

      • Pink David

         /  2nd July 2020

        ” It’s far worse than more than a hundred years of everyday inequities and savagery.”

        Last weekend 6 children were murdered in Chicago. 16 in total, 63 others in attempted murder. This happens every weekend. No protests. No news reports. Not street marches in Auckland.

        What is the BLM movement doing to change this?

        https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootings-this-weekend-in-violence-shooting/6280115/

        ” a zillion incidents such as this to even be starting out on one of the old knee on the neck trick until dead situations.”
        What would a ‘zillion’ incidents like this change?
        There are dozens of unarmed white people who are killed by police, many more than black people. It’s not a race issue. Why do you make it one?

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  2nd July 2020

          The deaths in Chicago are a product of the inequities in the US which is what the BLM movement is all about. So already covered by existing protests.

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        • Duker

           /  2nd July 2020

          “There are dozens of unarmed white people who are killed by police, many more than black people”
          No its not . Its something like a 5 to 1 imbalance even more when the proportion of population is taken into account.
          Most police forces dont even keep detailed figures of deaths connected to police action, and George would have been put down to ‘cardiac failure’ if it wasnt for the video ( as he wasnt shot)

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        • duperez

           /  2nd July 2020

          The BLM movement has done wonders. Here you are so far away from it, being very concerned about kids being murdered in Chicago. You would have not have had your day interrupted by that terrible situation except for BLM.

          Here you are concerned about unarmed white people being killed by police. And here you are stipulating what’s a race issue. When racism has happened over years it wasn’t a race issue – it was just stuff happening. As soon as ‘race’ is brought into it all the concern comes out about the terrible racism visited upon white people in the US.

          Some simply deny history. Others at least are not prepared to.

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      • The fact that the middle-aged, middle-class English couple were not injured or killed doesn’t make it all right. Who carries proof that they own their car with them all the time ? They were doing nothing to justify three police officers stopping them and treating them like this. Anyone would be distressed and angry at being expected to prove that they were not committing a crime when they were doing nothing at all to give the impression that they were committing one. What next ? Will people be expected to carry proof that the house they are in or going into is actually theirs ?

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        • duperez

           /  2nd July 2020

          Depends. Depends on the colour of your skin. You can find videos on YouTube of that sort of thing. It’s what Corky calls ‘profiling.’

          It didn’t happen before videos, YouTube, phones with cameras, other recording devices? It’s the sort of thing that’s been going on for donkeys years, born of the time when black people were chattels, slaves, subhuman. Funny when the resentment about the treatment and attitudes come out a couple of hundred years later how some people get very sensitive about white people suffering from racism.

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          • These English people were black, middleclass and middleaged, and looked like what they were. They had done nothing at all to attract the attention of the police! !

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          • These people were stopped because they were driving down their street in their own car ! They stopped in their drive and were told that they were being stopped ‘because I can’ (cop) and because they had been seen driving down the street.

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            • Who are the idiots who think that it’s a crime to drive one’s own car into one’s own drive because a cop doesn’t recognise them ?

              Thank goodness the UK cops are not armed or this could have been another case of police murder of innocent people.

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    • Pink David

       /  2nd July 2020

      Did you know the closing scene from Star Wars is lifted directly from a Nazi propaganda film called ‘“Triumph of the Will.?

      They were not even trying to hide it, Nazi’s everywhere!

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      • and in Attack of the Clones… And in Rogue One. And the “Star Wars” franchise isn’t alone in separating Nazi ideas and tropes from the specifics of the Holocaust. Khan in the “Star Trek” series preaches eugenics.

        But both franchises are entertainment and they use Nazi tropes as the benchmarks for evil, not as deep political or social commentary.

        Trump might be entertaining but his campaign apparel is pure political commentary.

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    • Pink David

       /  2nd July 2020

      You are right Ishmael, Nazi’s are everywhere in the US.

      Look at these Nazi’s openly chanting against the Jews. They are not even trying to hide it!

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      • That’s a bit misleading Pink. They’re actually calling out “Israel”.

        Israel is a country, Judaism is a religion. There are lots of Jews who are not Israeli and lots of Israelis who are not Jewish.

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        • Pink David

           /  2nd July 2020

          Dog whistling buddy. You taught me how to see it. anit-Israel is the deniable antisemitism.

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          • Gezza

             /  2nd July 2020

            No it’s not. Apartheid-favouring Zionists & Israelis are not the same thing as the Jews collectively, either in Israel or outside it. Some people pretend there’s no difference, but there is.

            It’s perfectly legitimate and not anti-Semitic to criticise the Israeli government for its apartheid policies & ongoing, increasing, illegal seizures & occupations of Palestinian land.

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            • Duker

               /  2nd July 2020

              If Vodafone can alter old clips of Ernest Rutherford sayings things that he never did.
              This BLM march video has been manipulated as well.
              Rember Trumps doctored racist baby video from last week ?

            • That computer-generated video of Ernest Rutherford saying those things is an insult to him.

            • Gezza

               /  2nd July 2020

              Yes, must admit I don’t like that ad. It’s dishonest.

            • Gezza

               /  2nd July 2020

              This BLM march video has been manipulated as well.

              Certainly could be. It’s so easily done. Has such a claim been reported?

      • Patzcuaro

         /  2nd July 2020

        Anti Jewish or anti Israeli? Is criticizing Israel being anti Jewish? If so then it would be impossible to criticize Israel.

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    • Duker

       /  2nd July 2020

      They are facing the wrong way.
      The current Bundesadler and previous eagles face right
      (The Kaiser sometimes used double headed eagle, facing both ways)

      Weimar Republic – faces right
      Nazi regime – Reichsadler with swastika (hakenkreuz)- faces right
      Bundesadler – faces right
      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswappen_Deutschlands

      The US coat of arms/seal with bald eagle ALWAYS faces left
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States

      Bad piece of manipulation Ismael

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      • Duker

         /  2nd July 2020

        oops.
        German eagles face left including nazi era onesI put that in and then changed it!)
        American eagles face right

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        • Gezza

           /  2nd July 2020

          I’ll never forget the grin on the face of a staffer of Embassy in Bonn when I stayed with him & his family for the weekend on the way back from a trip to London & he explained to me that the German word for Embassy is der Botschaft, & the ambassador is der Botschafter.

          Also that the German word for Town Hall is der Rathaus. 😀

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  10. David Clark has resigned as Health Minister – claims he chose to walk and wasn’t pushed. Either way it’s a positive move.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12344904

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  11. Patzcuaro

     /  2nd July 2020

    The Republicans have a new candidate for Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District after Lauren Boebert defeated the incumbent Scott Tipton. Boebert runs Shooters Grill restaurant in Rifle Colorado. Shooters Grill is an open care restaurant with staff open carrying. Boebert is running to the right of Tipton so should make for an interesting election.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/55ewj8SiN95mazFz6

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  12. Gezza

     /  2nd July 2020

    And in other news…

    “National leader Todd Muller has given the man he ousted the foreign affairs portfolio in his caucus reshuffle, but not a high ranking in caucus.

    He has also promoted Dr. Shane Reti to Paula Bennett’s number 13 spot, making him the highest ranked Māori MP in the National caucus.

    Muller announced his second reshuffle this morning following the announced retirements of both Bennett and Anne Tolley over the last week.

    Bennett’s retirement left Muller with no Māori MPs anywhere near his front bench, with the first in his caucus rankings being Reti at number 17.

    National leader Todd Muller has given Simon Bridges the foreign affairs role, but not a high caucus ranking. Bridges has picked up Reti’s ranking of 17.

    He had been offered the justice portfolio but declined, instead pushing for the prestigious foreign affairs role. Muller’s campaign chair and former foreign affairs minister Gerry Brownlee previously held the role.

    Deputy leader Nikki Kaye will take on the women’s portfolio from Bennett, while Amy Adams will pick up the wider drug reform portfolio. “[Bridges] had expressed an interest in foreign affairs and I agreed to that,” Muller said.

    He indicated Bridges could move further up the rankings at a later date given his seniority. When he won the leadership Muller said Bridges would have a place in his shadow-Cabinet – the top 20 – should he want it.

    Muller said moving Reti up into Bennett’s place gave him an opportunity to do that today. He described Reti as a “fantastic” MP. “Many had observed that he was a talent that should have further opportunity, and I tend to agree with that – strongly.”” [Todd – hint. If you “tend to” agree with something that implies something a lot less than “strongly”!]

    – Stuff

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    • Gezza

       /  2nd July 2020

      Christ! If Bridges ends up as our Foreign Minister the whole world might think we all talk like that!

      Dunno how he’d manage to dance for both Trump AND Xi.

      Reply
  13. PartisanZ

     /  2nd July 2020

    Meanwhile, it turns out that evidence-informed and ‘statistically’, collaboration is the best form of competition …

    And that GOOD is not the opposite of ‘Bad’, but rather the opposite of SELFISH!

    Reply

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