The Lone Trumper

I think this is funny on it’s own, but it’s sad to see the president of the United States continuing to act like such a doofus, especially over an important health issue during a pandemic. he said in an  interview he had worn a black mask and he looked like the Lone Ranger.

Donald Trump has set a poor example on dealing with the Covid-19 pandemic in a number of ways, one of those on the wearing of masks.

He has said “some people wear masks as a political symbol of opposition to him rather than as a health precaution”.

USA Today:  Trump says he’d wear mask in small crowd but questions need for mandatory use

President Donald Trump said Wednesday he’s not sure that face masks should be mandatory but that he’d wear one in a “tight” crowd.

Several prominent Republicans, including Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, have publicly urged Americans in recent days to wear a mask in public when they are unable to practice social distancing.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, a Tennessee Republican who chairs the Senate health committee, called Tuesday on Trump to occasionally wear a mask even though “there are not many occasions when it is necessary for him to do so.”

“Unfortunately, this simple lifesaving practice has become part of a political debate that says: If you’re for Trump, you don’t wear a mask. If you’re against Trump, you do,” Alexander said during a hearing on the COVID-19 outbreak.

“The president has millions of admirers,” Alexander said. “They would follow his lead. It would help end this political debate. The stakes are too high for it to continue.”

Trump has said that, for him, wearing a mask in public would not appear presidential. He told The Wall Street Journal earlier this month that he thinks some people wear masks as a political symbol of opposition to him rather than as a health precaution. He also expressed concern that they are not hygienic.

Trump has now endorsed the wearing of masks, but has set himself up for more ridicule. He had worn a black mask, thought he looked ok, and he “Looked like the Lone Ranger”.

Fox Business (with video of interview) – Trump ‘all for masks,’ looked like ‘Lone Ranger’ in one

President Trump has been criticized by politicians for not wearing a mask in public, but he told FOX Business’ Blake Burman on Wednesday he has worn one in the past and the only reason he doesn’t wear one more often is because everyone gets tested before meeting with him.

“I would. Oh, I have. I mean, people have seen me wearing one,” Trump said when Burman asked if he would wear a mask. “If I’m in a group of people where we’re not, you know, 10 feet away, and — but, usually, I’m not in that position. And everyone’s tested. Because I’m the president, they get tested before they see me.”

“I don’t know if you need mandatory, because you have many places in the country where people stay very long distance. You talk about social distancing. But I’m all for masks,” Trump told Burman.

According to a Goldman Sachs analysis Tuesday, a national mask mandate could avert a 5 percent drop in GDP.

“If a face mask mandate meaningfully lowers coronavirus infections, it could be valuable not only from a public health perspective but also from an economic perspective because it could substitute for renewed lockdowns that would otherwise hit GDP,” the researchers wrote, according to USA Today.

Now Trump is coming around to wearing masks.

“I mean, I would have no problem. Actually, I had a mask on. I sort of liked the way I looked, OK? I thought it was OK. It was a dark, black mask, and I thought it looked OK. Looked like the Lone Ranger. But, no, I have no problem with that. I think — and if people feel good about it, they should do it.”

Trump didn’t say whether he cut eye slits in the black mask when he wore it.

There has predictably been a lot of reaction abd lampooning, some collated by Market Watch – Trump says a face mask makes him look like the Lone Ranger. One problem with that …

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72 Comments

  1. Ray

     /  3rd July 2020

    Beyond help!
    Are Americans so stupid they will vote this utter clown to “lead” them?
    Time will tell.

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    • Blazer

       /  3rd July 2020

      Well Ray ,when it comes to politics,nothing much surprises.

      Loyalists will overlook all manner of deficiencies in keeping the..faith.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  3rd July 2020

        Always remember this genius has the nuclear codes,scary

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        • Corky

           /  3rd July 2020

          Yes, he has the codes..but he can’t fire the missles.

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  3rd July 2020

          Sure lurch he’s a loose cannon, sabre rattling, twitter trolling president. But anyone capable of looking past the bluster at his actions rather than words and they will find he’s also the most peaceful president in decades

          Suck on that Joe

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  3rd July 2020

            Are you referring to “when the looting starts the shooting starts”?

            Trump is a bully and bullied are rarely peaceful. Is all the name calling peaceful?

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            • Gezza

               /  3rd July 2020

              I suspect Con means that apart from firing off some warning missiles at Assad’s regime for using chemical weapons & assassinating Solemani so far Trump hasn’t substantively attacked any other country militarily. He’s just waged economic wars.

            • Patzcuaro

               /  3rd July 2020

              I agree that Trump is less inclined to intervene militarily overseas and to also require others to contribute financially. There does see to be a lack of overall strategy involved in the military pull backs with allies not being consulted. Russia always seems to be the main beneficiary.

              He is certainly not an inclusive President and seemed keen to us the military against hs own people. Peaceful is a bit of a stretch.

            • Pink David

               /  3rd July 2020

              “Trump is a bully and bullied are rarely peaceful. Is all the name calling peaceful?”

              The funniest thing about this is that this is barely a week after John Bolton’s book, where his primary complaint was that Trump would not let him wage war, and that Trump was far too peaceful.

              Perhaps you should read it.

            • Duker

               /  3rd July 2020

              “where his primary complaint was that Trump would not let him wage war, and that Trump was far too peaceful.”
              That wasnt his main claim at all.
              1. Trump wanted help from China to win re-election…
              2. … and said building internment camps was the ‘right thing to do’
              3. Trump offered ‘personal favours to dictators’
              4. The Democrats should have gone further with impeachment efforts [could have pushed more for him to be a witness but was blocked by Trump]
              5. Trump suggested he wanted to serve more than two terms
              6. Trump didn’t know the UK was a nuclear power…or if Finland was part of Russia
              He was very close to actually quitting Nato
              Invading Venezuela would be ‘cool’ [ so much for your peace claim!]

              -He describes a dysfunctional White House, one in which meetings resembled “food fights” rather than considered efforts at policy-making.

              -When he arrived at the White House, the then chief of staff John Kelly warned him, “this is a bad place to work, as you will find out”.

              -Even Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, considered a loyalist, is said to have written a note describing the president as “full of shit”.
              Take their advice PD and dump Trump now and you can later claim you didnt know.

            • Pink David

               /  3rd July 2020

              “That wasnt his main claim at all.”

              You have not read the book.

            • Pink David

               /  3rd July 2020

              By the way, it’s quite fascinating that your googled list of things from the book consist entirely of ‘things Trump said’. No one, not one person has confirmed any of those claims, nor is any one of them an action.

              The action that Bolton criticizes most strongly is the Presidents veto of Bolton wanting to attack Iran. That is an action we all saw.

              Other than that the book is entirely a bunch of bitchy gossip targeted for anyone who does like Trump to fork out $24.95 for.

            • duperez

               /  3rd July 2020

              The book being a bunch of bitchy gossip targeted for anyone who doesn’t like Trump is neither here nor there. If you believe the stuff is true, it’s true.

              That’s the reality age we live in. Trump has said and done stuff that when put back on him he has said is ‘fake news.’ He has called stories that have been demonstrably true as ‘fake’ deeming whatever it is to not be true.

              As far as I’m aware there’s nothing in the Constitution, the oath of office or any official documents that say the President is the arbiter of truth, the one who has the ability to discern and adjudicate on truth.

              The one telling the truth is the one you want to believe. Who to believe? Trump has not innate right to be right or honest or truthful. To decide if someone is likely to be truthful how about regarding their proven public record? A relatively new phenomenon is ‘verifiers’ and ‘fact checkers’ industry.

              There are many online. Dispute one or some as ‘anti-Trump’? Dispute them all? When investigations are calmly carried in the cold light of day to verify things said in the heat of the moment, off the cuff or dropped casually and a conclusion is reached, who to believe?

              https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-baseless-attacks-on-times-post-reporting-on-russia-probe/

              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/

              “For his entire adult life, and for his entire presidency, Donald Trump has created his own alternate reality, complete with his own alternate set of facts. He has shown himself to be erratic, impulsive, narcissistic, vindictive, cruel, mendacious …”

              If Trump says the stuff in Bolton’s book is fake news or bullshit the chances are he’s bullshitting. It is an area he exceeds in.

            • Pink David

               /  3rd July 2020

              You have not read the book either, have you?

          • Corky

             /  3rd July 2020

            Quite true. Too many equate his bluster with war mongering. Seems to me he has little desire for physical confrontation. Economics is battlefield as Gezza says.

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        • Lurch, the president can’t start a nuclear war on his own, thank goodness, although Trump believes the urban myth that he can.

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  3rd July 2020

    Still no upturn in US deaths despite the lockdown exits and case surges. Similar fatality decline in the UK.

    BLM getting discredited as extremists. Likewise China.

    Serious absence of global warming in NZ.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  3rd July 2020

      In other news Trump made a joke about masks.

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    • Griff.

       /  3rd July 2020

      After you show symptoms it takes from about 14 days to eight weeks plus to die from covid.
      This is basic knowledge for anyone who has been keeping up with the epidemics progress .
      Alan……..and the rest of the right on here keeping up ?
      https://elemental.medium.com/from-infection-to-recovery-how-long-it-lasts-199e266fd018

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      • Pink David

         /  3rd July 2020

        “This is basic knowledge for anyone who has been keeping up with the epidemics progress .”

        What is also basic knowledge for anyone is that Covid does almost no harm to anyone under 65. All most all the increase in positive tests are in the <45 age group.

        A correct projection from the data we have would state that, rounded to the nearest 0.001%, none of these people will die.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  3rd July 2020

        Avg days till death in NZ was about 3 weeks. US states started easing lockdowns at the beginning of May. It’s getting close to three weeks since the US case numbers started climbing. And most will be confirmed a number of days after infection so better see something soon, Griff, or we won’t panic properly.

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    • Tom Hunter

       /  3rd July 2020

      Chuckle….

      Griff. / 2nd April 2020

      I am talking of the death rate not the cumulative total .
      The death rate is presently 900 a day .
      Exponential growth. The daily death rate is doubling every three days has been for the last month.
      900x2x2x2x2x2 28,800 a day in fifteen days .

      I liked the way that figure was bolded and especially liked that comment because it had the classic Griff insult at the start:

      Math not your thing?

      Yeah! Math is hard.

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      • Griff.

         /  3rd July 2020

        ROFL
        Why did the growth halt Tommy?
        Because the individual states actually started to take it seriously and go into lock down .
        Not your great orange leader he was still in “its a miracle it will disappear” mode .
        The GOP is a death cult.

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        • Pink David

           /  3rd July 2020

          “Because the individual states actually started to take it seriously and go into lock down .”

          That will be clear in the data then. Show us.

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        • Tom Hunter

           /  3rd July 2020

          States were already locking down at the time – here’s Al Jazerra’s state-by-state rundown from April 15 looking back into mid March – and of course because it’s a Federal nation they did it in different ways and to different degrees.

          All this was known when you made you comment on April 2nd. No indication in that thread that it mattered to you. Nah: you did the same thing you’ve done for years on AGW; screamed your lungs out about a CATASTROPHIC SITUATION COMPUTER MODELS EXPONENTIAL GROWTH MASS DEATH MAAAAAAAATH

          You went full Griff. Never go full Griff.

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      • Tom, if you like maths…can you make 1000 using only 8s ? 😀 (this may not be maths, but who cares ?)

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  3rd July 2020

          888+88+8+8+8

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          • Clever, isn’t it ? 😀

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  3rd July 2020

              I worked it out by starting with 888 and subtracting from 1000. Once I just needed 24 it was easy.

            • Gezza

               /  3rd July 2020

              That’s just the easy way.

              (8(8(8+8)-(8+8)/8))-8
               8888/8.888
               (888-8) + 8×(8+8) – 8
               ((8×(8+8))-((8+8+8)/8)) x 8
               ((8×(8+8))-((88/8)-8))× 8
               (8888-888)/8
               8(8×8+8×8) -8 -8 -8

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  3rd July 2020

              You used 8’s and google?

            • Gezza

               /  3rd July 2020

              Of course.

    • I remember you glowing with pride in March Alan when Trump restricted air travel – it was all going to go away because Trump had everything under control. You were a flat-earther about coronavirus then and you’re still one today.

      Now there’s 130,000 dead, a nation that reopened too early at Trump’s urging, and the inevitable and overwhelming influx of hospitalisations in Texas as the COVID-19 surge continues.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/as-coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-across-texas-hospitals-grapple-with-patient-influxes/2020/07/02/53a9f5fe-b9a9-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

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      • Pink David

         /  3rd July 2020

        You very clearly have no read that article.

        “Now there’s 130,000 dead, a nation that reopened too early at Trump’s urging, and the inevitable and overwhelming influx of hospitalisations in Texas as the COVID-19 surge continues.”

        You are writing this with nothing other than fear. Stop wetting the bed.

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        • Fauci’s comments came as the daily death toll reached 1,199, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. It is the first time it has risen above 1,000 since June 10.

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/reels-coronavirus-daily-cases-hit-record-deaths-surge-200701032914345.html

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  3rd July 2020

            NYT reports this number as a data reporting anomaly and the worldometer moving average doesn’t show it at all.

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        • Pink, you might as well argue black is white or up is down. It isn’t going to make any difference to what’s happening in America.

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        • Another report on US COVID deaths – put up on The Atlantic website an hour ago:

          “National deaths continued to fall this week, averaging fewer than 500 a day. But the pace of their decline has slowed. It’s still too early to know whether deaths will keep decreasing in the next few weeks, but the early signs are not good.

          There will always be an inherent lag between a rise in coronavirus cases and an associated rise in coronavirus deaths: On average, 14 days pass between someone experiencing the first symptoms and someone dying, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

          In Arizona, where COVID-19 cases started surging about two weeks ago, deaths have begun to increase. The state reported 267 new deaths in the past week, an all-time high.

          https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/07/week-america-lost-control-pandemic/613831/

          emphasis added

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  3rd July 2020

            That’s quite a close match to my avg numbers: 7 days to hospitalisation and then 13 days to death.

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        • Tom Hunter

           /  3rd July 2020

          You are writing this with nothing other than fear. Stop wetting the bed.

          It’s not fear Pink. Ishmael’s simply doing what he has been doing for ages now on this blog, surfing on great waves of hysterical OrangeManBad shite from MSNBC, CNN and most of the rest of the MSM.

          Now that the riots and BLM have burnt themselves out and are merely turning into street-level cop abuse and increased criminal behaviour, and targeting the good little Middle Class Lefties like the Seattle Mayor, the mainstream US Left realise it could take them out next. So hey-ho it’s goodbye to CHAZ/CHOP and others.

          And it also means that it’s back to COVID-19 and a full-court press by the MSM to try and scare re-opening state economies into shuttering themselves again in the hope that Biden and company can ride the economic destruction train all the way to November 3 for a win.

          Won’t work. People have had enough of lockdowns and after Public Health officials made fools of themselves by blessing the BLM protests a month ago they’ve lost the public trust, which is why millions of kids decided to go back to partying like they would any summer.

          It’s over – and all the scare tactics in the world won’t change it. The best they can hope for now is to have the TV anchors intoning mournfully with Serious Face each night about “Another Grim Milestone Passed Today with the death toll and hope that can keep Trump down instead.

          Mind you, that’ll have to compete with the rapidly rising tide of shootings, murder and the like in NYC, Chicago, Baltimore and other Democrat-run death camps.

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  3. Patzcuaro

     /  3rd July 2020

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  4. Patzcuaro

     /  3rd July 2020

    Trump heading to Mt Rushmore for Independence Day celebrations but Souh Dakota Governor at says they won’t be social distancing. Some will be wearing masks.

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    • Do you MIND ??? If I had ruined my keyboard by spraying coffee on it, it would have been your fault and I’d have sent you the bill.

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  5. Pink David

     /  3rd July 2020

    “Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows”

    https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

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    • Duker

       /  3rd July 2020

      A difference in death numbers like that isnt enough for a new drug , but is barely adequate for the covid emergency and a long used drug. A lot of the normal drug testing studies requirements are being followed, which is fair enough, but since they gave it to 90% they have assumed it would be effective before rather than after.
      ” 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine alone died compared to 26.4% not treated with hydroxychloroquine. ”
      However they say 90% received the drug, so there must have been good reasons not to give it to the rest . Were the other treatments the same such as ventilation and so on.
      Trump of course was taking the drug as a preventer not to save his life after being infected.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  3rd July 2020

        They are running another trial on prevention. This one has been peer reviewed so presumably any differences in patient susceptibility accounted for. Don’t expect to see any apologies from the Trump abusers.

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  6. Pink David

     /  3rd July 2020

    How this for a miss on predictions.

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    • Duker

       /  3rd July 2020

      Same thing counted different ways.
      The previous numbers included temporary unemployed which have come back to work again as places reopened.
      permanent unemployment is the number to keep and eye on and is rising.
      So those 4.8 mill are not ‘new’ jobs just existing jobs people are getting paid for now,

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      • Pink David

         /  3rd July 2020

        “permanent unemployment is the number to keep and eye on and is rising”

        Show this.

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        • Duker

           /  3rd July 2020

          Look it up yourself.
          Where’s your proof 4.8 mill new jobs last month
          Trump has never had 4.8 mill new jobs in a whole year. Work it out what’s happening

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          • Pink David

             /  3rd July 2020

            Sure.

            “Some 4.8 million positions were added last month”

            Where do you get your figures for ‘permanent unemployment’?

            “Trump has never had 4.8 mill new jobs in a whole year. Work it out what’s happening”

            We know what is happening. Tens of millions lost jobs during the lockdowns and now lockdowns have ended, those jobs are coming back.

            This is good news.

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  7. Patzcuaro

     /  3rd July 2020

    “The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has confirmed a report by The Associated Press that some of the service members who were mobilized to Washington, D.C., last month in response to civil unrest over the killing of George Floyd were issued bayonets. Defense documents obtained by the AP show some were not trained in riot response.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/joint-chiefs-chairman-confirms-soldiers-were-issued-bayonets-for-dc-protests

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    • duperez

       /  3rd July 2020

      You know how it wasn’t ‘teargas’ that was used in Washington, just chemical formulas in gas form to irritate the eyes, nose, mouth and lungs and cause crying, sneezing, coughing, difficulty breathing, pain in the eyes, and temporary blindness?

      The bayonets were just tools to cut their way thorough the undergrowth and heavily shrubbed areas of Lafayette Square.🙃

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    • Pink David

       /  3rd July 2020

      “were issued bayonets”

      Why would they not have bayonets? Bayonets mostly get used to open MREs. Very handy.

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