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  1. Corky

     /  12th July 2020

    Open source technologies under threat? As expected governments around the world can’t believe the luck Covid has bought them in this regard.

    https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/the-u-s-wants-to-stop-funding-open-source-projects/

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    • Duker

       /  12th July 2020

      Isnt this an old sexist meme, that women who do wrong are classed as “witches”

      because its in a carton doesnt make it OK, its continuing the practice of politics that women are treated more harshly and much ‘easier’ to put labels on them that stick. Its variations of the B word ( or the L word) at their core. Mothers and homemakers- the good labels- are expected to stay at home

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  12th July 2020

        Female cartoonist? But anything goes when the Lefties want to share their hatreds.

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  2. Blazer

     /  12th July 2020

    Michelle Boag joins the [deleted] with…’Dame’ Jenny Shipley,Ruth Richardson and Paula Bennett.

    Where do National find these plastic harridans,that would make Marie Antoinette …blush.

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    • This looks quite sexist and politically partisan.

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      • Blazer

         /  12th July 2020

        Not sexist,possibly partisan,but ….all done in the best possible …taste.
        p.s if Cinderella ever appears with a blue rosette,I will be the first to…..acknowledge it.

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        • It looks very sexist to me. You seem to have a particular intolerance of female politicians from parties you are opposed to. You keep targeting them in particular. Seems very much like political sexism.

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          • Blazer

             /  12th July 2020

            I only critique when warranted.
            What other female politician from a party I oppose’ have I targeted.

            I often targeted Key,English amongst others …so I believe I’m very…balanced.

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            • Key and English have been gone for years.

              You seem to have a particular obsession with some female politicians

            • Duker

               /  12th July 2020

              The study of history will continue to be around a lot longer.
              Courts are full of past mistakes and misdeeds, its how it works

              Key was blaming Clark government for things as late as 2016… so shall he be judged up till 8 years later.
              Well still be hearing about Trumps ‘history’ well up to the end of the decade ( or more !), Do you think Trump will shut up after his looming defeat?

            • Corky

               /  12th July 2020

              I think the problem is National produces hard women. The Left are used to their woman being screechy and subservient. Helen Clark being the exception. Many a Tory secretly admired aunty.

            • Screechy AND subservient ?

              What an insult.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  12th July 2020

    A graphic account of Chinese Government corruption and coercion over the virus threat:
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-virologist-coronavirus-cover-up-flee-hong-kong-whistleblower

    Not much chance Helen Clark will preside over a clean up in that den of snakes.

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    • NOEL

       /  12th July 2020

      Said it before. The issue is a perception that the WHO was pandering to the Chinese.
      No in house UN investigation is going to be worth anything.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  12th July 2020

        Choosing a socialist to review socialists surely sends a signal.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  12th July 2020

      Which is worse – maing a hundred thousand jobless or sending a government spreadsheet to the media? Inquiring minds want to know.

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      • Silly question, Alan, you must know that sending a spreadsheet is worse than making a mere 100,000 people unemployed.

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      • Duker

         /  12th July 2020

        100,000 jobless was supported by the National party and Act and even Mikey Hosking….at the time , by stirring speeches in parliament.

        Who knows what they think now as they wriggle [unfair] to shed their ‘old skins’
        Some polls say 80% public support too
        As for the spreadsheets, its was venal to do so and dirty politics to hide the partys connections to how they knew …what ever happened to doing it all up front
        It wasnt even a real ‘leak’ it was a high level political operater absusing her position on a charity…double dirty politics

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        • You must know that ACT and National were supporting a four week lockdown, not one that kept being extended with the rules being changed all the time and not one that was likely to cause deaths and wreck the economy.

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  4. Duker

     /  12th July 2020

    Well well, guess whos NOW wearing a face mask

    Previously he had said ‘ a mask was to signal disapproval of him’ and of course his supporters all thought the virus was a hoax anyway.
    I guess that is cast aside now

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    • Pink David

       /  12th July 2020

      “his supporters all thought the virus was a hoax anyway.”

      Nice strawman! You should start an Etsy shop and sell them online.

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      • Duker

         /  12th July 2020

        So another skin Trump wriggles out of , and its strawman stuff?

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        • Pink David

           /  12th July 2020

          Yes. Covid is a bad flu, very few think it doesn’t actually exist.

          The ‘hoax’ is the response to it. ‘We’ are behaving as though it is a once in a once in a hundred years plague, which it is not and never has been.

          Plenty of hoaxes on the journey of course. From Kawasaki disease to overflowing hospitals, to the refrigerated containers for morgue overflow.

          Here’s a hoax from Friday;

          “Covid 19 coronavirus: ‘Unknown pneumonia’ deadlier than coronavirus sweeping Kazakhstan, Chinese embassy warns”

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12347159

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          • Pink David

             /  12th July 2020

            How many days before that story is revealed as a hoax as well?

            Young people dying of Covid is very unusual. 30 yo’s account for <0.1% of deaths. The story is entirely one person's claim. Nothing else supports the story.

            You had a doctor claiming he was triaging 'young' people last week because he did not have enough ICU beds in San Antonio, despite there being more than a thousand spare.

            How about Dr. Joseph Fair? NBC followed his case extensively as a warning about how serious Covid was. Small problem being, he never had Covid!

            He tested negative no less than 5 times.

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          • Pink David

             /  12th July 2020

            While we are on the topic of Covid hoaxes, remember the The Lancet publishing a study on hydroxychloroquine that was a total fabrication?

            I seem to remember you posting it with some glee. Happy to be part of the hoax.

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            • Duker

               /  12th July 2020

              They once did that about vaccines too…same editor , doesnt mean charlatans cant get into the medical publishing industry

    • Took him 137,000 dead Americans and 3 months of taking the piss out of Joe Biden for wearing a mask before Trump caved. Meanwhile loyal trumpagandists are floundering around looking for another straw man

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      • Corky

         /  12th July 2020

        I think [deleted incorrect name] still has some mileage left in him. 137,000 dead Americans. Not even a drop in the ocean. The reckoning will come when we see how America comes out of Covid( if ever) compared to the economic state NZ is in next year.

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        • It’s a drop in the ocean for the 137,000.

          I suppose it’s inevitable that the unoriginal would call Joe Biden ‘Sleepy Joe’.

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      • Pink David

         /  12th July 2020

        “Took him 137,000 dead Americans and 3 months of taking the piss out of Joe Biden for wearing a mask before Trump caved. ”

        Let’s be clear here. 3 months ago every single public health organisation clearly stated masks were of no use. None. Everyone single one said this, and it reflects all the research that has ever been conducted.

        The UK will be making mask compulsory next week. Not last week. Not 3 months ago.
        Next week, after it is all over in the UK.

        Masks have nothing to do with Covid. The change to masks is entirely political.

        Put a rag over your face, be safe.

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        • duperez

           /  12th July 2020

          Put a rag over your face? Why? A rag is just a sort of mask isn’t it? I thought masks were useless.

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          • Pink David

             /  12th July 2020

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          • Duker

             /  12th July 2020

            Something about long established epidemiology orthodoxy that says the droplets don’t really travel beyond 1.5m anyway without a mask, so it’s not that useful in most circumstances . BUT do wear a mask on a plane and other very crowded places

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  5. duperez

     /  12th July 2020

    The other day I saw someone asking “Who is Neil Young?” Today I saw this very recent down on the farm show.

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  6. duperez

     /  12th July 2020

    Since we invariably follow the USA I wonder if election advertising like this will be seen here?

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    • Corky

       /  12th July 2020

      The ad was going great until they showed the old Geezer at the end. If you don’t mind..I’ll take the crooks.

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    • Corky

       /  12th July 2020

      That makes one more than the Dems have. 😄

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      • lurcher1948

         /  12th July 2020

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecrf75nWAAAhltU?format=jpg&name=small
        Your sort of heroes Corky,the sort you look up to,i suppose

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        • Corky

           /  12th July 2020

          The only person I look up to is myself. And that’s kept me in good stead through a myriad of different situations. I have no time for people who fawn over and worship others.That shows a paucity of character.

          Now tell me, Lurchy. Is it true you still worship Stirling Moss and Alexis Duchâteau?

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          • Blazer

             /  12th July 2020

            I hope you’re not looking up your arse to see if your cheesecutters on…straight.

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            • Corky

               /  12th July 2020

              😄
              Come now, Blazer. If Lurchy wants to dish it out, I’m going to oblige. He needs to cut his ribbon strings with the Hive.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  12th July 2020

    GREETINGS PG ,Hi ,hows your weekend going?the CANES kicked the Highlanders butts,up here in Wellington, WE WON,the south (highlanders lost) ….enjoy your weekend…CHEERS
    PS done in good taste with jest

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  12th July 2020

      Crusaders won again too, Lurch. But well done, Hurricanes. I think they turned on the Welly weather for support too.

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  12th July 2020

    Now this is what i would call an exciting trip

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  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  12th July 2020

    Strange times up here. A beautiful day today and it’s like midsummer for crowds and tourists. We’re solidly booked this month though the individual bookings are shorter than in January. Obviously people who would have winter holidayed overseas have been coming here instead.

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    • It’s been summery here on and off, too, and the daffodils are out in force.

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    • Duker

       /  12th July 2020

      Same in central NI . I heard from someone who was heading up to Auckland and saw a solid line of cars from the Tirau turnoff heading towards Rotorua way

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  10. Duker

     /  12th July 2020

    More on the Stone sentence commutation and some previous parralels.

    “Just days before the 1992 election, Lawrence E. Walsh, the independent counsel investigating the Iran-contra affair, filed a new indictment against former Defense Secretary Caspar W. Weinberger revealing notes contradicting President George Bush’s account of his involvement. Mr. Bush considered that a dirty trick by Mr. Walsh to influence the election and indeed he was defeated days later.

    Mr. Bush responded the next month to what he considered an illegitimate prosecution by pardoning Mr. Weinberger and five others, prompting Mr. Walsh to complain that “the Iran-contra cover-up, which has continued for more than six years, has now been completed.” NY Times

    Clinton pardoned Susan H. McDougal, a former business partner from Arkansas who spent 21 months behind bars for refusing to cooperate with the independent counsel Ken Starr’s investigation of the Whitewater land venture.”
    That was on his last in office , and she had served all the jail time.

    Stone was very very lucky the Don didnt wait until he had served time. Shows that Trump wasnt the only President to have been investigated and have some people went to jail

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