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  1. David

     /  13th July 2020

    Anyone seen the PM, another week and she is a no show on Monday. She is paid 450k plus expenses and we have built her a 750k playground for her child the least she could do is turn up for work.
    She had 7 weeks off over Christmas so no more excuses, get back to work.

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  2. David

     /  13th July 2020

    Apparently Obama commuted the sentences of 1715 people and I dont remember a single news story about it.
    Trump commutes Stones sentence for what was a process crime with an incredibly biased jury forewoman and society has collapsed.

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    • Graham says he will call Mueller to testify before Senate committee

      Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., announced Sunday that he will grant a request to call former Special Counsel Robert Mueller to testify about the Russia investigation.

      Graham made the announcement in a statement a day after Mueller published an op-ed in the Washington Post in which he defended the prosecution and conviction of Roger Stone after President Trump commuted Stone’s sentence. Stone’s case spun out of Mueller’s probe.

      Mueller’s op-ed defended both the decision to prosecute Stone, as well as the overarching Russia investigation that Republicans and the president have repeatedly denounced. Mueller said he felt “compelled to respond both to broad claims that our investigation was illegitimate and our motives were improper.”

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/graham-says-he-call-mueller-to-testify-before-senate-committee

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    • duperez

       /  13th July 2020

      If your serious interest has you checking them out let us know how they were connected to him and him to them. Maybe there will be conclusions able to be drawn made about ‘future use’ too.

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    • Democrats and Republicans criticize Trump for commuting Roger Stone’s prison sentence

      House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., became the latest lawmaker to criticize President Trump for commuting the prison sentence of his longtime political confidant Roger Stone on Friday.

      Schiff, whose contentious relationship with the president has played out on Capitol Hill and on Twitter, called Trump’s commutation of Stone’s sentence “offensive” and argued that the president’s allies can do whatever they want and get off “scot-free.”

      “The president, through this commutation, is basically saying, ‘if you lie for me, if you cover up for me, if you have my back, then I will make sure that you get a get out of jail free card.’ …They get off scot-free.”

      Utah Sen. Mitt Romney – arguably the most vocal critic of Trump in the GOP — condemned the move. “Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president,” he tweeted Saturday.

      Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., called Trump’s move a “mistake,” noting that Attorney General William Barr had called Stone’s prosecution “righteous” and the sentencing “fair.”

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-and-republicans-criticize-trump-for-commuting-stones-prison-sentence

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      • David

         /  13th July 2020

        Schiff ! Lets see this compelling evidence he had on Trump Russia collusion he was supposed to drop, yup nothing he just went on CNN 387 times in 12 months claiming he had categorical proof and nothing.
        Graham would like to see Mueller in front of his committee and there are a good many other people who would like to see Mueller explain his partisan investigation stacked full of partisan Democrats who found no collusion but kept the investigation going for as long as it politically could in the hope they could get an obstruction charge going.
        Given what has come out and the Durham investigation about to drop there are some senior FBI people under Obama who will be hoping Biden wins so they can get their sentences commuted given Joe was donkey deep in the shenanigans taht weaponized the Justice department to spy on the Trump campaign and then try to undo a democractic vote.

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        • Duker

           /  13th July 2020

          Pleeese…
          Nothings going to drop , except the continuing slide of Trumps polls and the numbers who will get out to vote him

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    • Blazer

       /  13th July 2020

      X did it…too!Hopeless.

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    • a process crime:
      Stone was found guilty of witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements. Seven federal crimes.

      But Obama:
      Stone had the goods on Trump and admitted so: “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”
      Obama was never ever put in that position.

      Bill Barr:
      “I think the prosecution was righteous and I think the sentence the judge ultimately gave was fair.” July 8, 2020

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      • Tom Hunter

         /  13th July 2020

        Stone had the goods on Trump and admitted so…

        Boasted so you mean, as with all the rest of his self-promoting bullshit. It’s quite possible to acknowledge that Stone is the same sleaze he’s always been while at the same time recognising what a load of shite he’s been put through. Sending a team of armed agents at 5am to the house of a man in his 60’s with no history of violence – and letting a CNN camera crew in on the secret to boot. Ishmael justice!

        Former Federal prosecutor Andrew C McCarthy – the guy who put The Blind Sheik away – nails the lid on that crap amongst other things with this article in National Review (the same site that devoted an entire issue to Stop-Trump), Amnesiac Democrats:

        The tweet underscores that Weissmann — an overt Biden surrogate these days — was a terrible choice for a special-counsel probe that should have been rigorously non-partisan. He scorched the earth investigating Trump for three years; to imply that he might have nabbed the president were it not for Roger Stone’s omertà is pathetic. Weissmann could have immunized Stone if he believed Stone was withholding vital incriminating evidence against Trump — and then he could have prosecuted Stone for contempt if Stone resisted.

        He didn’t do that because there is no reason to think Stone had incriminating evidence. Stone was alleged to have lied about discussing WikiLeaks; that’s why he was charged only with process crimes, despite all of the heavy breathing about collusion in Mueller’s indictment of Stone. Weissman & Co. did not come close to proving that he or Trump had anything to do with the hacking of Democratic Party emails by Russia or by anyone else.

        Won’t stop this Russia Collusion lie from being endlessly repeated of course.

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      • Pink David

         /  13th July 2020

        “a process crime:
        Stone was found guilty of witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements. Seven federal crimes.”

        Why isn’t John Brennan in jail?

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        • Duker

           /  13th July 2020

          Ahh the process crimes…werent they the ones that got Al Capone in the end.. not paying taxes

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  3. duperez

     /  13th July 2020

    “Schiff ! Lets see this compelling evidence he had on Trump Russia collusion he was supposed to drop, yup nothing he just went on CNN 387 times in 12 months claiming he had categorical proof and nothing.”

    Are you serious? The world we live in, the world we want, is a world of rules. And it’s a world of games.

    The rules: When you have the ref’s whistle it’s rugby rules for your team and soccer rules for the others. Your team can smash people and knock them over and you can pick up the ball and run with it. To add to their participation they can also use the hockey off-side rule and the soccer one with passing the ball to players ahead.

    The opposition? When you have the whistle there’s no handling the ball, soccer off-sides apply and the netball contact ones.

    Schiff is just playing the game. You obviously followed him carefully enough to count his 387 CNN appearances. Of course he has categorical proof. Schiff is just like Trump, he never lies. At least you didn’t say Schiff’s ‘fake news.’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

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  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th July 2020

    They would say that, wouldn’t they?

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    • duperez

       /  13th July 2020

      They would. Like they’d compare the Obama commutations and pardons with those of Trump without apparently even being aware of them or their nature.

      Doing it by factoring in bias of a jurist? The ultimate arbiter can say, “I think the two black guys in the jury were biased, they swayed their colleagues and so the white guy was found guilty. Therefore I am commuting the sentence and granting a pardon.”
      Let’s just get rid of juries, Don knows best?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  13th July 2020

        They all sing their favourite songs, dups. Colour me unsurprised.

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  5. Texas is now entering the “refrigerated trailers as makeshift morgue” stage of the COVID-19 surge of deaths in that state. Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, California and Louisiana also showing significant increases in deaths.

    In the southernmost parts of the United States, pandemic infections are spiraling out of control. And it’s entirely self-inflicted: based mostly in the Republican-led states that shunned social distancing advice and boasted about reopening early.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/As-COVID-19-continues-to-slam-Houston-the-death-15400462.php

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/11/coronavirus-update-us/

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  13th July 2020

      When it spiralled out of control in NY and California it wasn’t self inflicted because they were Dem states. Instead it was Trump’s fault.

      Don’t be so consistently pathetic, Ishmael.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  13th July 2020

        The states across the south that are being hit now had more warning of the consequences of the virus than those in the west and north east who got hit in the initial wave.

        Unfortunately Trump was more concerned about his reelection prospects than leading the US in the fight against COVID-19. Had Trump listened to the experts early on he could have be in the vanguard of the fight against COVID-19 which ironically could have enhanced is chances of reelection. Instead he buried his head in the sand resulting in the US being continually chasing the virus.

        It also looks like a large portion of the US population is more concerned about their individual rights as opposed to the greater good. I imagine that the US response to COVID-19 will be studied for years to come as a example on how not to respond to a pandemic.

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        • Pink David

           /  13th July 2020

          “The states across the south that are being hit now had more warning of the consequences of the virus than those in the west and north east who got hit in the initial wave.”

          Peru has been in lockdown since mid March.

          Why are so many dying?

          “Had Trump listened to the experts early on he could have be in the vanguard of the fight against COVID-19 which ironically could have enhanced is chances of reelection”

          Care to refer to this expert advise he should have followed?

          “It also looks like a large portion of the US population is more concerned about their individual rights as opposed to the greater good.”

          Anyone who claims a ‘greater good’ is about to rob you.

          “I imagine that the US response to COVID-19 will be studied for years to come as a example on how not to respond to a pandemic.”

          I agree. NY caused tens of thousands of preventable deaths by pushing infected people into the rest homes where the most vulnerable people where.

          California has been locked down for months now and is seeing no better outcome for it, at a massive cost in destroyed lives.

          The whole worlds response will be in the same boat. Sweden and Japan are in the few nations that took an adult approach. France has now realised the lockdown was a massive mistake and have stated they will never repeat it. Norways PM when on TV and apologized to the nation for the lockdown that was not needed and did no good.

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          • Alan Foster

             /  13th July 2020

            Peru lockdown –
            Coronavirus: What’s happening in Peru? – BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › world-latin-america-53150808
            Pinky, is your real name David Bolsonaro?
            Swedish death rate still climbing & economically they are no better off than Norway have 10 times the death rate

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            • Tom Hunter

               /  13th July 2020

              Swedish death rate still climbing

              Rubbish – Worldometer – Sweden

              They peaked around mid-April – just like most other European countries and the USA – and their 7-day moving average has fallen continuously ever since. It now sits at 4.

              God, you people are just gagging for more death to prove how right Lockdowns were as a strategy.

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              “Peru lockdown –
              Coronavirus: What’s happening in Peru? – BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › world-latin-america-53150808”

              If I follow this correctly, the lockdown did not work in Peru because it is a very poor country where people need to work physical jobs to eat.

              Is that your view too?

              “Swedish death rate still climbing & economically they are no better off than Norway have 10 times the death rate”

              So the lockdown worked in Norway?

              Why didn’t in work in Scotland?

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              I’ll just add this too.

              The best match for why some countries get hit hard and others don’t seems to be how bad the preceding flu seasons have been.

              The uk has had at least two years of very mild flu seasons.

              Japan and Australia both had very bad flu seasons last year. Australia had the second worst season on record. 902 deaths.

              Click to access 1-Barr-ASM-2020-presentation.pdf

              Notice also the excess death 2017.

        • Pink David

           /  13th July 2020

          “I imagine that the US response to COVID-19 will be studied for years to come as a example on how not to respond to a pandemic.”

          Here is one thing they can investigate. How many people were killed by the lockdowns? Is it hundreds of thousands, or millions?

          “Lockdown has been linked to an increase of almost 900 cancer patients dying at home, official figures reveal.

          The statistic gives one of the clearest indications yet of the toll Covid-19 has taken on NHS services.

          The National Records of Scotland data shows an extra 873 fatalities at home between March 16 and June 29 compared to the five-year average over the same period.”

          https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/lockdown-linked-increase-almost-900-22341548.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

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    • Tom Hunter

       /  13th July 2020

      And their deaths are still 1/10 the total of places like New York and New Jersey – controlled by Democrats of course, as they have been for years.

      And of course there is no mention of the “spiralling” infections and deaths in California – because that’s also controlled by Democrats top-to-bottom. No mention of Georgia either, GOP controlled which opened up earlier than most, has had a rising case number for weeks now, but for which deaths just continue to trickle along with no spike at all. If you judged what’s supposed to happen there by all the screeching about Florida, Texas and Arizona you’d have completely missed what has happened in Georgia.

      BTW – when they re-opened a few weeks ago they were greeted with a partisan MSM attack titled “Georgia’s experiement in human sacrfice. Christ – and then people talk about Fix News, FFS.

      And naturally these partisan stories make little or no mention of the all the nuances involved:
      – “infections” in younger age groups as the spike.
      – definition of what a COVID “case” actually means per CDC definitions.
      – the obvious implications for death rate (hint – NOT the same as in Feb/March).
      – the newly calculated IFR from the CDC (0.26 – a bit worse than the usual flu)
      – the Herd Immunity Threshold (HIT) calculations and how they’ve changed.
      – the growing evidence of populations effectively immunised against coronaviruses in general because of T-cell recognition.
      – the evidence against such people being “spreaders”, let alone “super-spreaders”.

      Which also apply to California, so good news for them too over the next few days.

      And so on and so forth. But no: Another Grim Toll is the screech of the day.

      Ishmael is a great example of what we’ve seen for years on NZ blogs: the obsession of NZ Lefties with US GOP Presidents and the simple, unthinking repetition of the talking points of the day produced by Democrats and the US MSM (or Democrats-With-Bylines as I call them). Saw it with Bush II also, the previous Godwin target: Another Grim Day For US Casualties etc, etc, etc.

      And yet when anybody responds to this unending river of bullshit there’s an immediate sqawk asking why people are so obsessed with the USA or whining about people who are “pro-USA”.

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      • Pink David

         /  13th July 2020

        “Georgia ”

        Georgia was a topic here quite few weeks ago. Disasters was only a week away etc.

        It’s now been 2 and half months since they ended their lockdown and deaths have fallen steadily since the end of the lockdown.

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        • Duker

           /  13th July 2020

          The daily rate of confirmed infections in Georgia has tripled from under 10 per 100K a month ago to high 20s to 30 now…still going up .
          Daily rate is what matters, enables comparisons between States
          tests are only 50% up from a month ago
          Florida daily rate of infections in Florida is into the 40s

          California , daily rate per 100K of confirmed infections below 20
          https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/california

          And NY around the 5 mark per 100K pop confirmed infections. back in peak it was at the 50-60 per 100k pop PER day

          You should try basing your views on facts …it might shut you up though
          Forget the past numbers , what matters in the next 2 weeks is what is happening now.

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          • Tom Hunter

             /  13th July 2020

            The daily rate of confirmed infections in Georgia

            And as explained to you above that’s no longer a relevant number because of:
            – the populations the infections are now hitting
            – the immune response of those populations (often insufficient to even show symptoms).
            – the definition of what constitutes an “infection”. There are already debates about restricting the CDC definition since it was crafted in the early days of the epidemic when it was thought that just having the virus was a problem.

            As one example, everybody going back to hospitals now for delayed surgery or treatment, plus the usual accidents, is being tested for COVID, and a lot of them have the virus. Something like 2/3 of patients in Florida for example.

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            • Duker

               /  13th July 2020

              Not so..NY State at it’s previous catastrophe reached more than 50 per 100k per day, now down to the 5 level
              These are confirmed infections from test, those without symptoms are probably not included.
              For Florida testing rate is up roughly 50%, confirmed cases have gone up higher than that. Florida is on its way to repeat NY catastrophe , and yes both Governor and Mayor failed to act swiftly, at least they can say it was all new then.
              Governor of Florida can’t say that

            • Duker

               /  13th July 2020

              My data is out of date , it’s confirmed only back from beginning month
              . Florida has exceeded NY states peak numbers in the last few days, and that’s absolute numbers not per 100k pop that I have been using.
              Florida but both states roughly the same pop

              It’s not funny but gotta laugh at the feeble attempts to explain it away, the sheer numbers wiping out any small differences in ‘process’

            • Tom Hunter

               /  13th July 2020

              and yes both Governor and Mayor failed to act swiftly, at least they can say it was all new then.
              Governor of Florida can’t say that

              It’s not just that the NY Gov and NYC Mayor acted too late, it’s also the Gov’s insane decison to push people out of hospitals into LTC facilities, often without testing them.

              By contrast Florida has been very agressive from the start in testing old folks and separating out those who had COVID. That’s one primary reason why their death rate has been so low compared to NY. Frankly, given the % of retirees in Florida I expected that it was going to be the Italy of the USA. Didn’t turn out like that – and won’t, despite your fervant partisan and idelogical hopes at smearing a GOP governor.

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              “You should try basing your views on facts …it might shut you up though”

              I know you can’t handle being wrong, but for someone who is so frequently one would think you would be more use to it.

              Do you remember your prediction of 10,000 dead in Sweden? Are you betting on a second wave?

              “Forget the past numbers , what matters in the next 2 weeks is what is happening now.”

              You said that a month ago. Why are people not dying the way you predicted? Did I not point out to you the complete different demographic?

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              “Florida is on its way to repeat NY catastrophe”

              Cool prediction. For this to happen Covid needs to start killing people <65 in way nowhere else in the world has done.

              Care to explain on what you base this expectation?

            • Duker

               /  13th July 2020

              Cuomo made the same mistake…we are going to be different to Italy….but wasn’t.
              So you are saying Florida is going to be different…..too funny

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              Once again Duker, the demographic of people testing positive is almost entirely in the <65 age group.

              Your prediction demands Covid starts killing these people in numbers seen nowhere else in the world.

    • Pink David

       /  13th July 2020

      “Texas is now entering the “refrigerated trailers as makeshift morgue” stage of the COVID-19 surge of deaths in that state. Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, California and Louisiana also showing significant increases in deaths.”

      Bahahah. Here you are with another Hoax.

      Any simple check shows they use these regularly. Deaths, quite simply, in all those states are not above averages.

      “In the southernmost parts of the United States, pandemic infections are spiraling out of control. And it’s entirely self-inflicted: based mostly in the Republican-led states that shunned social distancing advice and boasted about reopening early.”

      California is the worst hit. Twice as many deaths as Texas. California has had the strictest lockdown, for the longest, in the US. Masks, social distancing, beaches closed, skate parks filled in to stop them being used. Businesses closed. The works. Everything you desired.

      Please explain why so many are dying and why you make this comment when it is in direct conflict with the facts.

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      • duperez

         /  13th July 2020

        I can understand an explanation being sought. Being directly in conflict with the facts doesn’t mean it’s not true though does it? (Flicks through a McEnany type folder to the tagged page for the explanation.) 🙃

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        • Pink David

           /  13th July 2020

          “Being directly in conflict with the facts doesn’t mean it’s not true though does it? ”

          It does very clearly. This comment for example, “And it’s entirely self-inflicted”.

          Where is any evidence of this?

          The theory is lockdowns are the required approach to minmise/eliminate Covid.

          Yet there is no observable better outcome from any state or nation that has imposed lockdowns. The correlation is, in fact, that states with the strictest lockdowns have the worst outcomes. The self inflicted thing was NY/NJ etc moving covid patients into rest homes killing tens of thousands.

          The only conclusion is that lockdowns are not effective, and much of the behavior as a result of lockdowns is killing many people.

          So why are people insisting on them?

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          • duperez

             /  13th July 2020

            Why are people insisting on lockdowns when they are not effective? I don’t know.
            You have 70 90 zillion who agree with you.

            Maybe the lockdowns happen because there are about 70 90 zillion who disagree with you.

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            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              Yes. Fear is powerful.

              It was never about following the science. You are only one step away from burning witches.

            • duperez

               /  13th July 2020

              It was never about following the science. In the US it was about following the president so it wasn’t about fear.There was nothing to be fearful or worry about.

            • Pink David

               /  13th July 2020

              “In the US it was about following the president so it wasn’t about fear”

              That’s not what has happened now is it?

              The states took their own actions, that is how the US works. Democratic states mostly took the hard lockdown path. Republican states less so.

              Australia is very similar. Federal systems in action.

            • Duker

               /  13th July 2020

              NY has now around 5 per 100K daily new confirmed infections.
              Florida have been climbing to around 40 while Georgia has climbed to around 30 ..per 100K pop per day.
              Texas is high 20s rate per day and climbing.

              NY at its peak was 50-60 per 100K new cases every day. ( now around 5)

      • Alan Foster

         /  13th July 2020

        Pinky – July 9th Deaths – Florida 119 – New York 32
        Explain that one

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  13th July 2020

          Surely that is obvious even to you? NY peaked first.

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        • Pink David

           /  13th July 2020

          Very simple. Different flu seasons. This is out of Edge Pope-Simpson. We are seeing very similar curves in South America too. Season is different, Covid seems to be offset compared to Influenza, 2-3 months later in the season. Look at the other data I posted on Australia. All flus produce the similar curves.

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  6. Patzcuaro

     /  13th July 2020

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  7. Corky

     /  13th July 2020

    The Human Rights Commission has released its report into racial profiling of patients
    on waiting lists in favour of Maori. Responding to a complaint by the Taxpayers Union, the Commission basically said it doesn’t have a problem with the situation.

    Sean Plunket interviewed Jordan Williams from the Taxpayers Union about this report.

    Previous to the above interview, David Seymour was interviewed by Sean. Seymour said the HRC would be disbanded by ACT.

    I should think so. Apartheid should not be part of the NZ way.

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    • Blazer

       /  13th July 2020

      I can see ACT disapproving of Human Rights….they’re that sort of entitled,selfish,vexatious parasites.

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      • Corky

         /  13th July 2020

        I don’t know what you are worried about…Labour are a shoe in. Save your invective for 2023.
        That’ll be the last time Labour rule for a long, long long time.

        By the way, ACT will also limit what solo mums and beanies can spend their money on should they not meet certain criteria. The rest of the country would agree with that. Unfortunately vicious ideologues like yourself and Parti don’t want that because you are under the mistaken belief most beanies don’t rort the system.

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        • Blazer

           /  13th July 2020

          the biggest rort is at the top…’the going rate for talent’=a complete construct.

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          • Corky

             /  13th July 2020

            Here’s quality. Labour doesn’t rate. National doesn’t rate.

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            • Blazer

               /  13th July 2020

              HOPELESS.

            • Corky

               /  13th July 2020

              It’s hopeless because you can’t get your head around people speaking rationally without a Maori word in every other paragraph..and wokism in between.
              Is it any wonder these folk are getting support. Seymours only job is to minimise any gaffes and limit candidates time with woke media. That will be a hard task. Especially as the Left media will now be taking notice, and will want a hit job done on ACT.

            • duperez

               /  13th July 2020

              The Act people probably do speak proper like, making sure that they only use words which have come directly from your great western culture. That means the great educated tolerant minds can relate to them and understand what they’re saying.

              Are you afraid of Māori, te reo, or hearing the language spoken?

            • PartisanZ

               /  13th July 2020

              They’ve changed it since ‘Make Aotearoa Great Again!’ haven’t they?

              I wonder where the idea for “Different” came from?

              Oh yeah!! TOP have been using it for months …

              … and stealing ACT voters.

            • Corky

               /  13th July 2020

              ”The Act people probably do speak proper like”

              Well, they don’t waste their time on trivial pursuits like making model toys.

              ”From your great western culture.”

              No, from OUR great Western culture. The difference is traitors like you have sold us out to stone age cultures and religions. The thought of something you can’t control even though you are a part of it, is just too much to bare.

              ”Are you afraid of Māori, te reo, or hearing the language spoken?”

              No, Maori is a beautiful language. What I object to is people speaking pidgin Mardee to satisfy wokism and cultural bs. Not only should it make people cringe, it should be regarded as an insult to Maoridom.

            • Corky

               /  13th July 2020

              ”Oh yeah!! TOP have been using it for months …
              … and stealing ACT voter.”

              😂😂😂… if you say so.

          • Duker

             /  13th July 2020

            4 MPs for ACT will mean more backstabbing, coneheads are like that, as they jostle to show how is most rigid in their ideology.
            Seymour will show to be completely ineffectual when leading a team, it’s not the type to inspire loyalty

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            • He does a damned good impression of it, I must say. People in the party think well of him and always have. I know him, and know what people in the Party say.

              The first sentence isn’t worth dignifying with a response.

            • Blazer

               /  13th July 2020

              Can’t see them getting 4 M.P’s …if Nats gift them Epsom again ,Seymour will be …alone again…naturally.

            • Duker

               /  13th July 2020

              That’s because you are a follower KC, not a leader yourself.
              A sniff of mixture of leather and power in parliament goes to many MPs heads especially newbies, they aren’t willing to wait a decade or more for just getting a bit closer to power.
              Ask Nikki Kaye…..how did she wrangle her head shot on Nats party billboards….
              Ms Vander Leden will be thinking of how long she will tolerate Seymour if she makes it into parliament

            • Corky

               /  13th July 2020

              Your comments remain to be proven, Duker. Let’s wait for the next poll, and should Seymour bring a posse into parliament; wait to see how he does.

              But all that is besides the point. All you need to know is Labour are dead men walking. Even when Jacinda takes the stage to acknowledge winning the election… you will know she is a loser in waiting come 2023.

              Talking of winning the election. Will Jacinda keep the scruffy ferals out of the celebrations like they did at the last election? They certainly learnt after the David Cunliffe fiasco.

      • duperez

         /  13th July 2020

        Whoop de doo – I say ‘kia ora’ I’m a traitor! I think I’ll say it twice tomorrow just to be a rebel.😊

        Meanwhile if you say ‘spaghetti’ “you’re speaking pidgin Italian to satisfy wokism and cultural bs. Not only should it make people cringe, it should be regarded as an insult to Italians.”

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        • Corky

           /  13th July 2020

          ”Whoop de doo – I say ‘kia ora’ I’m a traitor! I think I’ll say it twice tomorrow just to be a rebel.😊”

          Please don’t spin. I didn’t say traitor in respect of the Maori language. You are taking my inference of traitor too far. As I wrote:

          ”No, Maori is a beautiful language. What I object to is people speaking pidgin Mardee to satisfy wokism and cultural bs. Not only should it make people cringe, it should be regarded as an insult to Maoridom.”

          ”Meanwhile if you say ‘spaghetti’ “you’re speaking pidgin Italian to satisfy wokism and cultural bs. Not only should it make people cringe, it should be regarded as an insult to Italians.”

          Now you are reaching to justify yourself. Of course when we deconstruct your arguments we find little substance to them except an overwhelming imperative to push your ideology.

          I think you may find easier pickings elsewhere. But if you insist, I won’t be hiding.

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  8. Tom Hunter

     /  13th July 2020

    Chuckle. Like Ralph Northam’s (Virginia Gov) and Justin Trudeau’s infamous “Blackface” laughs from years ago the following from Joe Biden will not be held against him.

    Because he’s a Democrat.

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    • Corky

       /  13th July 2020

      Lead balloons and dead rats. Honestly, does this guy know what party he belongs to? And seriously is he capable of taking in all vectors as a nuclear missile is en route to the US?
      He is right about about the founding of America if you ignore the Injuns and put them on a reservation.

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  9. Tom Hunter

     /  13th July 2020

    Oh – and it looks like Joe’s successor in the decades to come has not received the proper re-education…

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    • Pink David

       /  13th July 2020

      She is dog whistling for all the white supremacists to vote for her.

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      • Duker

         /  13th July 2020

        Trump often makes small hand gestures in his speech, they vary considerable. But hes not making white power signals. Some call him ‘The king of hand gestures’ as its a signature thing with him, maybe because he wants to hide his small hands?

        Same here , shes making hand gestures while talking.
        Walking down the street and flashing a O hand signal on its own would be considered to be ‘white supremacist’

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        • Pink David

           /  13th July 2020

          “Walking down the street and flashing a O hand signal on its own would be considered to be ‘white supremacist’”

          Very funny! Well done.

          Reply

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