Collins leader, Brownlee deputy

Judith Collins is the new leader of the National Party.

I really think this was inevitable. She will have heaps of crap thrown at her by partisan opponents, such is the dirty game of politics. And she will be tested by media, as it should be.

And time will tell how this pans out, at this stage we can only guess but that would be pointless.

And they have gone to experience and stability with Gerry Brownlee at deputy. His biggest challenge is within the caucus, it will be his job to demand loyalty and teamwork, Failing that National’s outlook is dire.

For the good of the country this has to work, it is imperative we have a strong Opposition Party to hold the Government to account, and to be a next government in waiting, in 3 or 6 or 9 years or however long it takes.

 

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  1. John J Harrison

     /  14th July 2020

    With the leaderships collective heft they will crush the COL.
    A wonderful partner in an ACT/National government.
    The wousers will wail and the lefties will weep.
    Great !

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  2. Corky

     /  14th July 2020

    Excellent. However, while everyone has been rooting for Judith, we haven’t asked ourselves whether her skills and personality will translate into good leadership. Whatever, how good is it to have someone who SO FAR hasn’t been woke. Go get her, girl….grrrrrh!!!

    And anyone who has a problem with big Gerry can take it out into the corridor. Only big Gerry will be walking back in… through the official entrance.😨

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    • John J Harrison

       /  14th July 2020

      Corky, at least [deleted, don’t use nicknames] will not be berating us hourly to “ be kind,”
      God , I’m sick of that crap – as are her team of 5 bloody million.
      .

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      • Corky

         /  14th July 2020

        True, time for some plain speak and upsetting twits on Twitter.

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    • Corky

       /  14th July 2020

      Anyone watch One News tonight. What fugging disgrace. They had Johnny filling in for that other chap whatever his name is. Anyway, Johnny couldn’t help mentioning the lack of Maori in the National party rankings. Someone needs to tell him to read what’s on the tele prompter, and get his timing right. When the co-host is talking he should shut up. He will be one of the first media personalities Judith will need to house train.

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      • Duker

         /  15th July 2020

        What rankings ?
        They have ‘locked down’ the party website for another round of airbrushing….Stalin would be proud.

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  3. Pythagoras

     /  14th July 2020

    Too bad for Todd, a good guy in the thick of a bad bunch.

    No one with a career ahead of them will want to take the poisoned chalice that is the National party leadership at this moment. Or, are Judith and Gerry, along with Todd, the only ones not to have received Michelle’s Covid emails?

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    • PartisanZ

       /  14th July 2020

      I don’t necessarily believe any of them are BAD people …

      Narcissistic perhaps? Mentally, emotionally and spiritually unwell maybe?

      They’re trapped in a petri-dish ‘culture’ of bad behaviours … and they are responsible for themselves being there …

      Some are taking responsibility for getting OUT.

      What remains certainly amounts to a Poison Chalice though … and it ain’t no Holy Grail!

      “Ewww. Yeck! Look what ‘Trickled Down’?”

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    • Blazer

       /  15th July 2020

      Collins and Brownlee will provide stability right when they need it.
      Muller is a loser.
      Cushy sinecures at monopolies are different from the political…bear pit.

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  4. PartisanZ

     /  14th July 2020

    What’s Collins gonna do? Play DIRTIER!?

    It’s perfect! She’ll drag the remaining corrupted entrails out of the CCP-sponsored ChiNational Party and expose them to the world … for ETHICAL CLEANSING …

    Labour-led must receive the overwhelming mandate of the people – consent of the governed – to undertake the enormous changes necessitated by Covid’s wrack upon societies and their globalization … and the world … the Trans-Reformation … tasks like the re-invention of egonomics as Ethiconomics, and the re-invention of “Democracy” as Epidemocracy – something “above” this failed, dysfunctional machinizm we squallow-in now …

    And repatriating all the Zoo animals. The ‘Trophies’ of Colonization.

    I believe many National Party people know this in their near-dead heart-of-hearts but they can’t come out and admit it. That’s like the ultimate shame in New $ZeaL Land. “Oh, by the way darling, and children – friends and business colleagues – I’ve been part of this lizard-like nefarious mafioso-style playground-bully-boy political organisation for decades … The National Party.”

    ‘The Legion of Frontiersmen’

    Saving face while bailing becomes the route ‘OUT’ … The Free Fall ‘Selfie’ if you will …

    Collins is the perfect Captain to remain on deck as National’s Shi* of Straite slides below the Tova-freezing surface of New ZeaLand political HIS Tory.

    Did First Labour ‘abandon’ farmers? NO!

    Was there innovation, entreprenuership and enterprise under ‘Socialism’? Yous Righties’ mocking-name for the highest ideal of Social Security (What a peculiar thing to want!?)?

    Well of course there f**** was! There was Buzzy Bee, Sachet Yoghurt, Hamilton Jet, Keith Hay & Reidbuilt Homes, Lockwood … and God knows how many more inventions and businesses and industries … as self-sufficient as possible … including Possums … and Leather … and Woolen Insulation … Potteries and numerous Cottage Industries …

    Many of these shall return I think …

    In some spheres though, because of Mother Nature’s Perfect Intervention, ComradeCovid-19, some government somewhere along the line, someplace and soon, is gonna have to start thinking about Exnovation as well … (see especially the words highlighted in Yellow) … What do we decide NOT to use?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exnovation#:~:text=Sandeep%20provided%20the%20modern%20definition,practices%2C%20from%20management%20to%20medicine.

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  5. Horracethebear

     /  15th July 2020

    I expect one of two outcomes… Judith is very polarizing. Only a few weeks ago she ran across the street to me to say hello. That is the nice Judith. She is really smart hard working and one scary biarch when needed. But she has a lot of baggage. Gerry I would think is a very interesting call. It’s reminds me like it’s NZ vs Aust in a ODI in Perth in 2007. Aust smashed 344. Wow that’s a score. Nz was 5/198 And then big Jacob Oram came in and smashed 101 off 72 balls and one B McCullum got 46/39 and we won. I was in Melbourne with Andrew Phillipps and the late Craig Norgate paid for by the good people at UBS Bank. Craig and I never actually checked into our hotels after the longest and craziest weekend ever. Norgate called me a great smart dude but a pussy. A few years later he made millions and died. But NZ won!

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    • Blazer

       /  15th July 2020

      Thanks for the brief intro….you must be a wonderful guy…At least you do not have an inflated sense of your own importance.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  15th July 2020

    I think this outcome is a good call and makes far more sense than their picks since Key left.

    Obviously they need a huge turn around and it may be too late but this is by far their best option for that as both Collins and Brownlee can work the media as novices can’t.

    It will be interesting to see which if any heads roll. Also if the media try to pin baggage on Collins it may only give her focus and take oxygen from Jacinda.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  15th July 2020

      Also Brownlee makes glaringly obvious the gap now occupied by Kelvin who?

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      • Duker

         /  15th July 2020

        Brownlee has been deputy before…for short times. …
        Collins may have been the only choice, but Gerry ?
        Identity politics, as Judith has a birth canal, the deputy must be without….. As Judith is from Auckland , the deputy must be ‘other’ or even better South Island…box ticking
        Age wise JC is 61 and Gerry is 64 .

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        • I’m sure that whoever was chosen as leader and as deputy there would be people claiming it either didn’t represent diversity or was token box ticking or represented the wrong demographics (or all as you’ve done).

          Collins was the obvious choice for leader, she has the media skills that are essential, and she has a record of detailed policy knowledge, and she is popular with National supporters.

          Brownlee is a fairly logical choice as deputy. He may or may not stay there after the election, but the key focus has to be on repairing caucus damage and disunity and gearing up for the election campaign.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  15th July 2020

        And Brownlee knows all about gaps, aka “holes” …

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        • Corky

           /  15th July 2020

          He also knows how to punch. Davis couldn’t punch his way out of lunch wrapping.

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          • PartisanZ

             /  15th July 2020

            Davis is doing the really important mahi quietly and surely behind the scenes … and the people know it …

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  7. Gerrit

     /  15th July 2020

    Well, I was was half right. Called it for Collins and I’ll take Brownlee as a Bridges substitute. Only unfortunate is am no longer in the Collins Papakura ward but in the new Takanini ward.

    Has Collins declared she will go list only? Cant recall.

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    • Duker

       /  15th July 2020

      No ..shes not so foolish to put her career in the whim of the party and captains picks. Much better to have her loyal electorate committee to depend on.
      She lives in St heliers now.

      Well thats goodbye to the Act surge as that 4% will go back to the Nats and leave Seymour with his 1%

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      • John J Harrison

         /  15th July 2020

        Duker, dream on.
        They will have over 6 MP’s on 20/09.

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      • Gerrit

         /  15th July 2020

        Interesting choise of word in a politician having a career. For many it is a career starting at university onto being a staffer to a politician. Being a politician should not be a career, it should be calling.

        With career politicians come “yes sir/madam” robotic followers. Simply because they have no fall back position.

        I would not say being a politician is a career for Collins, calling maybe, even an ego trip to be PM, but never a career. She don’t need the money and be at the behest of the party.

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    • Blazer

       /  15th July 2020

      Half right!
      Collins was hot favourite.
      She is another Shipley.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  15th July 2020

        ‘Shipley’ is the role she’s maybe cast herself in … but Collins is a lousy actor …

        I’m calling them the Judildo Show!

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        • Jack

           /  15th July 2020

          It’ll be a relief to have leaders who aren’t acting, and when they do, it’s obvious.
          With Jacinda, it’s all one big act and scarily not obvious to too many.
          Being able to take people at face value is very Kiwi.

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          • Duker

             /  15th July 2020

            Key found he couldnt take Collins at face value.
            Her claim she had ‘free time’ on the way to the airport, was shown to be a pre planned official NZ embassy event at Oravidas HQ for the sole benefit of Oravidas business.

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            • Jack

               /  15th July 2020

              Collins found out the hard way that she couldn’t take Key at face value. Perseverance is a part of that story. Key took the easy way to merely suggest that Collin’s should not be taken at face value. And he didn’t need to apologise, because she forgave.

          • duperez

             /  16th July 2020

            “Being able to take people at face value is very Kiwi.”

            That’s where Collins is a true leader I suppose. She has tried to lead us away from that nonsense. We must not trust anyone or assume anything. When a Minister of Justice leads the way with prevarication and lying the model, the leadership is there.

            In that world of justice taking people at face value and apportioning credibility on the basis of swearing oaths and attesting by ‘signing on dotted lines’ may have been very Kiwi and may have been important. They are for the past though. If a Minister of Justice is on TV relishing lying to us why would people in courtrooms up and down the country be swearing to tell the truth as if it is important?

            I can remember being punished for being thought to have lied. There were mantras about honesty being the best policy and always telling the truth. If I were raising kids now would I repeat the approaches and messages of my childhood? Or would I instil and teach the skills and arts of lying then praise and reward the use of them?

            There are bound to be primers on developing skills of lying which include the critical messages like it only being wrong if you’re caught and the multiple and multilayered ways of saying, “I made a mistake.”

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