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  1. duperez

     /  14th July 2020

    A perspective of profiling after reading about it on here recently and the necessity of doing it.

    Some would have it that the cops on here aren’t racist of course, they’re just being sensible.

    “As a urology resident, I spend up to 70 hours a week at the hospital. I wear scrubs to the operating room and through long hospital shifts. And, of course, I wear a gown and other personal protective equipment over my scrubs when caring for patients with covid-19 in Brooklyn.
    Even when I’m not there, though, I wear my medical scrubs everywhere. I wear scrubs and a mask when I’m shopping at the grocery store, rollerblading home from work and even meeting up with friends, always seeking to preemptively exonerate my blackness with my professional garb.
    It’s about protecting myself. Like many black Americans, I’ve been followed by security personnel through department stores without cause and pulled over by police officers at night for no reason.
    When I’m in scrubs, all of that happens less often.

    No single incident compelled me to wear scrubs everywhere. However, one night in the spring of 2019 after a long day at the hospital stands out. At the time, I typically changed clothes after work and put my scrubs in a machine that sterilizes them, but that evening I was exhausted and left the building with a surgical hat on my head and hematuria stains on my uniform. On my way home, around 2 a.m., I found myself behind a black car with tinted windows traveling less than 10 mph on a deserted two-way street. After this continued for a couple of blocks, I decided to pass the car. As soon as I did, blue lights came on, and I pulled over. The car pulled alongside me. Both passenger windows rolled down.

    I immediately thought of Stephon Clark, who had been shot one year earlier in his grandmother’s backyard. Four police officers were in the car — two in the front, two in the back. The driver reprimanded me from across the front passenger seat, assuming that I had known they were police officers and that I meant to disrespect them. They asked if I intended to make light of the New York Police Department and began to question why I was out driving at 2 a.m.”

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    • Corky

       /  14th July 2020

      I think I have covered your examples in previous posts. Now, allow me to show you why many white police officers may have racist attitudes towards blacks, or at the very least treat blacks differently to whites. Notice the high proportion of blacks comparative to their demographic. I have seen numerous similar clips. They all have one thing in common – a high percentage of hardcore black offenders.

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      • Well, yes, it’s a serious offence to be driving home from work or cleaning outside a university hostel or walking along holding a video. Or being in a building that you happen to live in,

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        • duperez

           /  14th July 2020

          People pick on others because of the colour of their skin. They stereotype. If that doctor came across one of those cops and needed him to save their life would they say “no thanks, you’re black, you’re all bad buggers”? Should he say, “die, all cops I’ve had dealings with are arseholes”? (I note he’s a urologist so he’s used to dealing with dicks.)

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          • Corky

             /  14th July 2020

            You miss the point, both in context and relative to their jobs as police officers.Of course cops stereotype. Of course a police officer with a medical emergency wouldn’t spurn a black doctors help. He may if the medical situation wasn’t urgent. I don’t know why you persist with your wilful ignorance. This is how the world operates. I have been subject to it myself. I don’t beat the world up over such, I just compensate in certain situations by double guessing peoples words and actions. I wish things where different, but they are not. Deal with that fact.

            Talking of racism…when are you going to comment on black and Maori racism?
            I could tell you some shockers. I guess such racism is not covered by your ideology.

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            • duperez

               /  14th July 2020

              I bow to your experience of racism. I bow to your experience of ignorance wilful or otherwise.
              I don’t know where racism comes into my ideology. I just think it strange that some white people can sniff the possibility of racism being directed at them or other white people yet their finely calibrated noses couldn’t discern or have an appreciation of centuries of racism the other way and the impact of it.

              Maybe my ideology is based around the shocker of realising that racism is a central part of the psychology of quite a few.

      • duperez

         /  14th July 2020

        Yes, simply means all black people are trouble and should be treated as threats. You are unable or unwilling to accept reasons for economic or social strata and need to put those down to skin colour. So much of what you posts suggest being born in South Africa in 1938 would have been a perfect fit for you

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        • Like Eugene Terre-Blanche ?

          I can’t believe that anyone’s real name is White Land, especially someone like him.

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  2. duperez

     /  14th July 2020

    Oops, Michael Woodhouse for leader? Just kidding. Adam Adams eh? She’s a woman of integrity. (Joke.)

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    • Jack

       /  14th July 2020

      Wow, this is like – wow. These books are relevant! I reckon I could put the next National leader in place, haha – and I’m a nobody. Don’t judge books by their author and beware the blurb. The third one is being promoted now, will soon join the other two. Arguably, the third is the best.
      https://www.amazon.com/author/hakaonthepew

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    • Gerrit

       /  14th July 2020

      Something I cant work out is why don’t all these Cullen “rich pricks” just give their money to the state. Why do they need to be taxed for it.

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    • Corky

       /  14th July 2020

      Sorry, didn’t see your post. However, unlike you, I have given the good Sir a serve.

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      • Why should they give it all away ? They’ve earned it, and a tiny % pay most of the tax revenue as it is. I don’t know any rich people who are not generous philanthropists. Alan Gibbs openly calls himself a rich prick. But he is also a generous one.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  14th July 2020

    YSB are desperate today,a picture of PM Jacinda Arderns book in the bargain bin, only one copy being backed up(supported) by a different book,the right have ADS,ie small manhood

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    • Duker

       /  14th July 2020

      One has been out 2 weeks …and is mainly vacuous justification by Collins, who snipes at Key
      The other older book by Michelle Duff came out more than a year ago and has ‘had its run’

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    • Spoken words can look awkward in print. But this is nonsense (and the singular is phenomenon, anyway)

      Sorry, Lurch, gibberish is not one of the languages I have learned 😀

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  4. Corky

     /  14th July 2020

    Can you believe this? Too much good living and believing you are God isn’t good.

    My suggestion to these confused welfy is this: if you want to donate to the gummint on a regular basis, do so voluntarily. Not all welfy are interested in wasting their money on others. That should be their right provided their wealth is legit.

    These folk must have forgotten the struggles many had to start businesses and the meagre years before they succeeded. Do these idiots think the government will stop at just taxing the wellfy? Hell, no… they will take that declaration as an excuse to tax the middlecalss.
    Most people cannot afford extra tax.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/122122049/sir-stephen-tindall-among-83-millionaires-wanting-to-raise-taxes-for-the-wealthy

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    • Pink David

       /  14th July 2020

      He can write a cheque to the NZ government any time he likes. The fact he does not seems to say something.

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      • Corky

         /  14th July 2020

        Very true.

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        • Duker

           /  14th July 2020

          His money would be a drop in the bucket, with all other ‘rick pricks’ it would make a real difference…..arent you lot always saying how much tax the rich pay ( at a lower rate than Australia ( 45%) compared to 33% here
          Then again the GST was increased over many years to to take away the direct tax on low income people ( they pay it back inspending all their money to live, while the rich invest ‘tax free’)

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      • Can people just write a cheque to the government ?

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  5. Duker

     /  14th July 2020


    Nick Anderson

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