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  1. lurcher1948

     /  18th July 2020

    If Ms Collins is giving half of her”think big” infrastructure money to Auckland,the rest of NZ will only get a trickle.this shows there are two New Zealands in Ms Collins mind,thank god PM Ardern embraces the whole country.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th July 2020

      Lockdown is an embrace?

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      • lurcher1948

         /  18th July 2020

        Was not is,we are not really locked down as we are keeping the enemy,the plague away from the gate

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  18th July 2020

          We are locked in and out indefinitely. Many don’t care. Some are hugely affected.

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    • Corky

       /  18th July 2020

      I’m not feeling Jacinda’s love, Lurchy. And I fear for my money and chattels should the ‘Empathetic One’ still be at the helm after the election. The thought of not being able to afford an organic raspberry bun, and having to suffer the indignity of an ordinary toxic laden abomination that the chattering class buy, is a terrible contemplation.

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      • The ‘chattering classES‘ are the intellectual, artistic, politically-minded pundits, not what you seem to think. It was coined by Auberon Waugh, and is correctly used in the plural.

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  2. John J Harrison

     /  18th July 2020

    Lurcher, don’t be so grumpy in the morning.
    Her largesse covers 4 provinces – not just Auckland.
    You know that , so why intentionally mislead ?
    Further announcements coming covering the rest of the country.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  18th July 2020

      Half for the rest of the country,Auckland and the triangle isn’t half the country,its a waterlogged isthmus and areas filled with new New Zealanders.Its all about votes,and [unless you have information to support these claims don’t make them, it comes across as a general smear – PG]

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      • John J Harrison

         /  18th July 2020

        Lurcher, clearly you did not watch the announcement as I did.
        The $31 Billion infrastructure fund covers 1/2 the country’s population.
        The projects for the 1/2 not covered by yesterday’s positive initiative will be announced in due course.
        Have a cup of tea and a lie down, then you will feel more positive about almost everything.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  18th July 2020

          Only righties drink tea,real men drink nespresso made coffee and they rarely need lie downs…just saying

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          • Harry

             /  19th July 2020

            Nespresso – glorified instant coffee marketed by an unethical global corporation.

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        • Blazer

           /  18th July 2020

          Wheres the money coming from?

          Nats are one trick ponies=ROADS.

          I guess this is all….’aspirational’!

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          • John J Harrison

             /  18th July 2020

            Blazer, clearly you did not follow the announcement.
            It went into great detail where the funding was coming from.
            The only party who embraces “ aspirational “ is the socialist Labour Party.
            But you already know that – don’t you ?

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            • Blazer

               /  18th July 2020

              That was another Nat M.P’ now retiring=Anne Tolley’s favourite go to !

          • FarmerPete

             /  18th July 2020

            Even electric cars and trucks will need roads!

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            • Blazer

               /  18th July 2020

              Trains don’t.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th July 2020

              You need roads to get to the train. Two road trips for every train trip killed rail freight.

            • My fear is that the road trips for anyone who doesn’t live or work next to a railway station will kill the new Hamilton/Auckland train service. It did last time. The time spent going to and from the stations may as well be spent on the road, and the railway trip is surprisingly long because of the various stops.

            • It will take about 2 1/2 hours from Frankton to Britomart. Even if the person only has another 1/2 hour each way to get to the station at one end and to work at the other, that’s 6 hours in total. Not to mention that fact that there are only two trains each way. It may work, but I have doubts.

            • Driving takes a bit under 1 1/2 hours from Frankton to Britomart.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  18th July 2020

    Stuff commentary again fails to insult the intelligence of its readers despite best effort:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300058198/crusher-offers-her-mps-chance-to-confess-their-sins-and-blasphemies

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    • Gezza

       /  18th July 2020

      I read that earlier this morning. And got to the end & wished I hadn’t. It was clearly marked as satire, but satire generally is witty. No fan of Collins, but even as an undisguised hatchet job my only internal response was “God, that was bad. What junk”.

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    • David

       /  18th July 2020

      I advise not to read that guys utter tripe, he apparently is trying to be funny. Since Arderns election he has done a weekly column about how great she is, deliberately. I tried it once and never again.
      He makes his colleague Malpass look erudite and insightful which is something.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th July 2020

        No it wasn’t. She was trying to be serious which is even worse. Arrogant ignorant crap.

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        • Blazer

           /  18th July 2020

          Lie down and have a …cup of tea…Al…its the Right thing to…do.

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        • Kimbo

           /  18th July 2020

          I liked it because she got ir right that Collins has no time for Woke, which in Johnson’s mind, rightly or wrongly is a concern of the younger voter demographic. You know, the ones who helped thrust Ardern into the job. And I’d suggest Johnson would know more about it than you or me, a Alan, being of that age group.

          Also, I thought she was fully acknowledging of Collins’ strengths, in a way that I found mildly amusing. Wasn’t impressed with Johnson a number of years ago when she literally was a wet-behind-the-ears teenager, but I hear the voice of my step daughter in her words. And their vote is worth the same as yours and mine.

          But anyway, if you want to do echo chamber“no it isn’t” old curmudgeon without bothering to explain why, knock yourself out. Thought you were made of better stuff, frankly…

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  18th July 2020

            I said it yesterday. Her assumption only youth oppose racism, sexism and ageism is arrogant and ignorant. Repeating for your benefit.

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            • Kimbo

               /  18th July 2020

              Thanks, Alan.

              No, I think Johnson’s assumption – and a correct one at that – is that Collins will, where possible, make it very clear she has no time for Woke. Whether that means one can still be sufficiently opposed to racism, sexism and ageism is a matter of…personal and ideological perspective. Personally I think Collins is on the money, that Woke is a fallacy, and I accordingly shrug my shoulders at the possibility Johnson thinks I am a covert racist or sexist. If the cap doesn’t fit…

              Nonetheless what is interesting is that if Johnson and many of her generation think and vote as such, so be it. Or have you forgotten the piece was an analysis of the voter demographics to whom Collins’ likely pitch was appealing? Or more importantly, as Collins is a clear black-and-white communicator of her convictions and policies which polarises voters, to whom she doesn’t appeal.

              And it will be interesting to see if Collins can even bridge the gap without compromising her message and brand.

              Plus I liked the lightness of touch in some of her phrasing. But ya pays yer money and ya takes yer pick.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th July 2020

              Yes, she is a far better writer than the other sad sack and has written some decent pieces but this was not one.

              The woke sector is not defined by age as she implies, nor by its principles but merely by its pretensions. Being totally unaware of all that the piece is simply a self-indulgence rather than a political commentary.

            • Kimbo

               /  18th July 2020

              Mind you I think Collins’ strategy, built on the historic reality that younger people vote in lower numbers compared to those 30+ will be

              1. Anything that pisses off those who are Woke is worthwhile as she was never getting their vote anyway, but it energises her base

              2. Ditto for the Greens (are Woke and Greens synonymous now?)

              3. In doing so she can likely plunder a few percentage points from previous NZ First votes

              4. Nonetheless she can still appeal to the traditional National Party values of rejecting class warfare and the new forms of identity politics. Worked for Muldoon in 1975 after the 1972 Labour “Time for a change” supposedly generational-shift landslide.

              5. Appeal to economic management, not social media virtue signalling as the best way to deliver the social justice that comes from jobs and housing for the young, and middle aged, and old, and Pakeha, and Maori, and heterosexual and gay and…

              I mentioned Muldoon coming from behind in 1975, and there is her template as there is a lot of Muldoon’s style and personality about Collins.

              However, two differences now – in 1975 a Labour Government with little talent went into the election without the superstar, Norman Kirk, who had single-handedly stolen the show in 1972. In 2020 Labour’s main asset, Jacinda Ardern is going strong and only election defeat or stepping down like Key sometime in the future will stop her.

              Also Muldoon had 15 months in which to undermine the Rowling administration by continual barnstorming of the country. Collins has 8 weeks…

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th July 2020

              All that is fair commentary, Kimbo, and what Johnson should have addressed.

            • Kimbo

               /  18th July 2020

              Hmm. Not wanting to Labour the point much more. However, while Woke may not be defined by age exclusively, but it is primarily, for broad brush political demographic purposes, a voting magnet for younger voters ahead of all others, including maybe older urban liberals. Which was Johnson’s correct assumption and analysis.

              Not that Collins’ pragmatism is necessarily irrelevant to those who are younger, in need of employment and for whom
              exodus to the foreign job market is currently restricted in the medium term…

            • Alan, she also seems to assume that only women are opposed to these things, and that her slightest action is feminism.

        • Verity Johnson doesn’t do satire. I can never believe that she is paid to write such self-promoting, conceited tripe.

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          • Blazer

             /  18th July 2020

            Another in an increasingly long line of successful women you are jealous of.

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            • Don’t be ridiculous and descend to stupid, totally inaccurate personal abuse.

              I am not in the least jealous of her.I dislike her pretentious writing and don’t envy the kind of mind that produces it.

              I wouldn’t call Verity Johnson ‘successful’. She’s a hack writer.

              Who are the others in the ‘increasingly long line of successful women’ of whom I am supposedly jealous ?

            • The idea that someone envies someone if they make a criticism of them must mean that you are jealous of everyone in the National Party and (as you constantly insult and attempt to belittle me, you must be jealous ot me 😀 ) You constantly insult Alan as well; are you jealous of his success?

          • Kimbo

             /  18th July 2020

            I think you are a bit hard on Johnson. Liam Hehir from a different part of the ideological spectrum did a similar, and good IMHO “how I personally see the political landscape from my perspective” piece for Radio NZ:

            https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/cb5e9807-be28-42e8-a39a-e93230f5d597

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th July 2020

              Much better piece. He doesn’t pretend to speak for those he doesn’t speak for.

            • Kimbo

               /  18th July 2020

              Fair enough and a subtle distinction although all politicians and commentators do broad brush when contemplating demographics. Richard Nixon, for example, may have been the first to conscious employ the strategy successfully in the electronic media age, and everyone since, be they right, left or centrist has refined his approach.

          • Gezza

             /  18th July 2020

            I’ve only read maybe 2 or 3 previous pieces by Verity Johnson, & they were all published in the old Lifestyle section of Stuff. I concluded that she generally writes for the 20-30-something well-paid, independent, female café & trendy-bar-frequenting set.

            Not sure how big her audience is – but I haven’t seen her write on anything before that has persuaded me I’d want to read more of her stuff, expecting some useful insights into anything of interest to me.

            So I’ve tended to skip most things she’s written. They’re just not pitched at my demographic. More suited to Woman’s Weekly or New Idea or something a bit more upmarket for professional class waiting room coffee tables maybe.

            This might be her first foray into an attempt at political writing, for all I know. Maybe she needs to learn to adapt her style?

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            • I skip them; they all seemed to be the mixture as before and basically indistinguishable from each other.

            • Gezza

               /  18th July 2020

              It’s a dreary wet afternoon so I did a search in Stuff on her name. It threw up several of her previous articles in fairly random chronological order since about 2016.

              She’s always written in a style that’s fundamentally self-absorbed, filled with often somewhat rambling musings.

              Kind of a Dear Diary approach, by a self-described white middle class & rather naive young woman jotting down her thoughts at particular times on her journey through growing up & learning life’s sometimes rather harsh lessons. Including the mistakes she’s made.

              Hard to gauge what readership she has but she must strike a chord with other young women in the same situation.

              It looks to me like she is trying to get into more serious writing. This latest article is something of a departure from her usual style, though
              I agree that she probably assumes too much in apparently thinking that she speaks for her generation.

          • Blazer

             /  18th July 2020

            just recently …,Jacinda,Chloe….now Verity….terrible,terrible green eyed monster of successful women .

            Sad.

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            • Dear [deleted],

              Stop telling stupid lies. I come from a family of successful women.My grandmother was a lecturer in applied science, mathematics and engineering. You seem to think that disliking what someone does means that one is jealous. This is arrant nonsense. How often do you have to be told something before it sinks in ?

              Verity Johnson is a lightweight spacefiller, the modern penny-a-liner. She’s not worth being jealous of.

              The long line (3 is a long line ?) is in your own mind.

              By your logic, your constant personal abuse must mean that you are jealous of me. Your constant spite and putdowns of those who succeed in business certainly indicate jealousy of them. If someone makes money, they are a greedy parasite, and anyone who has legal investments like a Jersey or Swiss bank account should be stripped of their citizenship. Good luck with persuading any government that this is grounds for stripping citizens of their nationality.

              Run along, Sad.

            • Blazer

               /  18th July 2020

              and Golriz ..theres4 in a couple of days.

              You are an anonymous blowhard imo.

            • Grow up, [deleted].

              Your ‘opinion’ is a collection of spiteful and envious falsehoods, based upon nothing and accompanied by personal insults

              Golriz has been called a professional victim by many people and many of her claims proved to be false, like the one about her holding the Defence Portfolio (she didn’t) and being the first woman to do so (even had she had it, she wouldn’t have been). Her claims about the nature of her role with the UN have been debunked. She defended rather than prosecuted people like the mass murderer with whom she had a smiling photo taken. Someone had to be on the defence team, but why pretend to have been on the other side ?

              Now, run along and take your Bile Beans…

            • Ah; I thought that as the person had signed themselves Sad, that was their new name.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  18th July 2020

      The Telegraph seems to need a subscription to read the article, he is a quote from the Economist.

      “Why is America such an outlier? Part of the explanation surely lies in the fact that America has a younger population than Europe does. America’s median age is just 38; Italy’s is 45. Another reason, perhaps, is that middle-aged Americans may be less healthy than their European peers, eg, because they tend to be more obese.”

      https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/24/when-covid-19-deaths-are-analysed-by-age-america-is-an-outlier?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/dailychartwhencovid19deathsareanalysedbyageamericaisanoutliergraphicdetail

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      • Pink David

         /  18th July 2020

        This is largely because of the way deaths are recorded. The number is not where Covid has caused the death, it is all deaths where covid was present.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th July 2020

        Sorry, it didn’t show me a Premium label:

        Antivirals such as remdesivir and steroids such as dexamethasone have recently been discovered to reduce fatalities in the sickest patients. So have high dose Vitamin C and zinc treatments.

        Dr Varon and colleagues from five different hospitals across America have created a cocktail of commonly separately-used drugs they have called the “Math+ Protocol”.

        The combination of cortisone steroid, vitamins and anti-coagulants is helping them combat the two biggest dangers of the virus – inflammation and clotting – and it is having some staggering results.

        The Math+ Protocol even managed to help a 92-year-old Covid sufferer undergoing chemotherapy for colon cancer.

        “We learned so much in a few months,” Dr Varon, who has treated over 200 coronavirus patients, told The Telegraph. “We are constantly having to change and evolve as the virus does, but some things seem to be working well.

        “No-one needs to die from coronavirus any more,” he said.

        Research published this week in medical journal Anaesthesia showed that the chances of survival for patients admitted to intensive care units have risen sharply as doctors have got better at treating Covid-19.

        Plus a lot of the initial treatment advice was wrong. Age of patients also a big factor.

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  4. Corky

     /  18th July 2020

    Good news for someone like me who believes we are relying economically too much on China. India is starting rev up. Silicon valley is investing heavily in India and I’m guessing others will follow. It would be great to see China put in an economic stranglehold.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/17/tech/google-facebook-india-investment-jio/index.html

    Long ago NZ flagged India as a great place to invest. What has happened in the interim?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=3801

    Quote:

    “And they like us because they know we were dealt to by the British the same, and we don’t like Americans much.”

    Our socialist streak is on display for all to see. That attitude has good and bad consequences.

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  5. No pictures on National billboards, maybe they think Ms Collins will burn out and resign, or there will be another coup,after all its becoming a habit with National,PM Arderns picture is great, No Ms Collins picture

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  18th July 2020

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th July 2020

      You can have the pics, I’ll have the policies, Lurch.

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      • I think you’ll find that that is a parody site/tweet. Apart from anything else. she’d know how to spell anaesthetic. And she’s unlikely to call herself Crusher Collins. The words just don’t ring true. Look it up.

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        • If the poor grammar, spelling and punctuation were not enough of a clue, the fact that @NatsLeader was also supposedly Simon Bridges and Todd Muller with childish distortions of their names ought to convince even the most gullible.

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  18th July 2020

          I had twigged to that.

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    • Corky

       /  18th July 2020

      See the way she’s looking lovingly at the power drill, Lurchy? That’s what she’ll use on your energy payment if she gets in. You will know hard times under her,son

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      • Gezza

         /  18th July 2020

        And, in the Dumb Things To Say department, Judith gets herself shown on Prime News & 1News at 6 looking lovingly at that drill – which she’s clearly not used to using – and says: “Reminds me of a taser”. 🙄

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        • Kimbo

           /  18th July 2020

          He he he. I think you may find that rather than an unintended gaffe, the comparison was chosen intentionally. National, trying to be all things to everybody as per the Muller-Kaye-Adams strategy has been ditched. Wouldn’t call it dog-whistling, more low-level trolling of the sensitive petals who would object. So Collins is deliberately drawing out the line of demarcation, and will make capital out any opponents who call her out for it.

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          • Gezza

             /  18th July 2020

            Oh it was definitely a calculated remark, & for the reason you posit, but it will likely appeal only to the older hard core of her base who are already committed National voters. It may well be a turn off for other voters who are worried concerned about Labour’s competence but like Ardern’s calculated humanity.

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  6. John J Harrison

     /  18th July 2020

    Hooray ! Collins has emphatically ruled out the Charlatan of NZ politics as a coalition partner.
    At last a steak through the heart of NZ First.
    Watch the pools !

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    • Gezza

       /  18th July 2020

      Did you mean “stake” & “polls”?

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      • Gezza

         /  18th July 2020

        (It’s just that the mental imagery of your alternatives is a bit of a challenge to picture unless one goes into Monty Python mode.)

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      • John J Harrison

         /  18th July 2020

        Gezza, quiet right.
        So excited, did not check as one should.
        As Pete said this AM , we all make mistakes.
        RIP Peters and NZ First !

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        • Corky

           /  18th July 2020

          I saw their party conference on One News. Looking at Shane Jones wearing a black hat like union reps and leaders used to in the 60s&70s, that’s a great reason why they should be gone.

          However, John, it’s post election, NZ1 has made it back in, and has signalled to Judith she has their nod if they can come to an arrangement. What’s Collins going to do?

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          • John J Harrison

             /  18th July 2020

            Hopefully stand by her principles which is why National get my electorate vote.
            Absolutely no one could ever trust that charlatan again – except Labour.

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            • Blazer

               /  18th July 2020

              She will fold like a deck chair..and you know it.

            • Blazer

               /  18th July 2020

              Well John if you don’t like the NZ National Party’s principles…they do have…others!

          • Kimbo

             /  18th July 2020

            When Collins was running against English for the party leadership after Key retired in 2016, she rightly prophesied that Peters would likely hold the balance of power and she was the best prospect for National leaderboard to negotiate with him. Proved doubly right as, due to Peters’ expulsion/departure from National in 1993, and the Key administration continually freezing him out, he (Peters) had a long-standing grudge against English.

            Yes, Collins will hope she does not have to deal with him after the results are in, indeed a major part of her strategy will be to take away most of his constituency. Nonetheless, if by some miracle Peters holds the balance of power again, and an even bigger if, if he is genuine about negotiating in good faith

            …then, yes, Collins should look to form a government with him.

            Ardern has shown that it is not necessarily electoral poison to link with him. And in the grand scheme of things, his price of a few billion for Jones’ ridiculous PGF and other frippery is one that has to be paid. Unless you want Labour and the Greens directing the post-lockdown recovery.

            And I can’t believe I just wrote that…

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            • Gezza

               /  18th July 2020

              And, because she has been careful with what she has said today, all she has to do is take the question back to caucus.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  18th July 2020

    Congratulations Sir Tom Moore did you notice the queen just walked up and Knighted you without a walker, DAMN the QUEENS TOUGH…FEMALES ARE TOUGH,ARE YOU…….

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  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  18th July 2020

    Winston has actually stopped some of the Loony Tunes the Greens and Labour would have played. Hopefully that may be his last contribution.

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