Five people escaped from isolation now detained

Another five people putting their own wants ahead of the good of the country, absconding from isolation in Hamilton. This selfishishness not only puts the population at risk of Covid spreading, it also means inevitable tightening of isolation and quarantine conditions for those who follow the rules.

RNZ: Fifth person who escaped from managed isolation in Hamilton detained

The fifth and final person who absconded from managed isolation in a hotel has been found and detained early this morning.

A short statement from Air Commodore Darryn Webb who manages the country’s 32 isolation and quarantine facilities confirmed the 17-year-old boy was located after a major manhunt.

He was one of five people – one adult and four children – who ran away from the Distinction Hotel in the city.

Four of the group who escaped were captured within an hour, however, one teenager remained at large.

The group escaped by climbing over a wall at the hotel, which is the same facility that a man fled from two weeks ago.

All five had returned negative tests on the third day of their isolation.

That doesn’t mean they were safe – the new case announced yesterday tested negative at three days but positive at their twelfth day test.

Last night the Minister in charge of Managed Isolation and Quarantine facilities, Megan Woods, condemned those who absconded saying they were putting New Zealanders at risk.

In a statement, she said the speedy apprehension of four of them highlighted the importance of the police presence at isolation facilities.

“This is incredibly irresponsible behaviour by this group. Our only chance of stopping community transmission of Covid-19 is by containing all potential cases at the border, and we are doing this successfully through our managed isolation system.

“People absconding from facilities before they have completed their isolation and returned negative day 12 tests are endangering the health of other New Zealanders and our Covid-free status in the community,” Woods said.

She said the group who absconded would be re-tested along with anyone they came into contact with.

When someone absconded from isolation in Auckland a couple of weeks ago and went to a supermarket it had significant flow on effects, with the supermarket shutting down requiring extensive cleaning, and staff had to go into isolation.

Maybe people who put others at risk should be liable for any costs that result from their irresponsibility. Like police costs.

NZ Herald: Major breach from managed isolation in Hamilton

Earlier last night a texter told Newstalk ZB’s Marcus Lush there was a “major police operation in Hamilton”.

“5 youths have run from the same motel the guy who went to get booze in Hamilton. Eagle is also involved. Major breach,” the texter wrote.

Lush tweeted about 8.20pm: “Destination (sic) motel. Breached one hour ago and police were there with in seconds. Dog units eagle and at lease dozen police are chasing. Te rapa area is almost completely locked down . [further intel] #breaking”

About 9pm a person told the Herald helicopters had been “circling for 30 minutes plus in area East of Te Rapa Straight. Location of Distinction Hotel.”

Unfortunately this latest breach shows that some people simply can’t be trusted to isolate themselves, meaning security at isolation facilities costs more and it is likely to be longer that incoming numbers of people are severely restricted.

Those who breach isolation can have a wide impact – potentially increasing border restrictions by months.

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53 Comments

  1. David

     /  25th July 2020

    The judge should have locked up the woman who escaped not bail her to Dunedin, a message needs to be sent that you escape you got to jail. Its called a deterrent and widely used in the justice system to engender good behaviour.
    Apparently 7% of people in isolation have never set foot in NZ before, just obtained their residency/citizenship overseas and hopped on a plane. Perhaps alongside the current restrictions on numbers there should be a priority system devised and we should defo be charging something.

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    • Blazer

       /  25th July 2020

      ‘Apparently 7% of people in isolation have never set foot in NZ before, just obtained their residency/citizenship overseas and hopped on a plane.’-citation..needed.

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      • Duker

         /  25th July 2020

        That would be true for those with critical skills who arrived here for some project or other. Those film makers were one group , theres others like them. There was a recent US woman doctor who got a work visa and since her skills were for a critical area she arrived not so long ago. There was some german engineers who arrived for something to do with the Wellington broken sewer main pipe reconstruction.

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        • NOEL

           /  25th July 2020

          “To apply for citizenship, you must have been a resident for at least 5 years, and only travelled out of New Zealand for a short amount of time each year. You must therefore have been present in New Zealand with a Resident visa for a total of at least 1,350 days and for at least 240 days in each of those 5 years.”

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        • NOEL

           /  25th July 2020

          They would be on visas.

          “To apply for citizenship, you must have been a resident for at least 5 years, and only travelled out of New Zealand for a short amount of time each year. You must therefore have been present in New Zealand with a Resident visa for a total of at least 1,350 days and for at least 240 days in each of those 5 years.”

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        • Blazer

           /  26th July 2020

          that does not confer P.R or citizenship though.
          Loaded David is making shit up.

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  2. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  25th July 2020

    This story about Nurses working at Isolation/quarantine hotels , then doing shifts at Wellington Hospital seems to have been buried pretty quickly..

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/07/coronavirus-ministry-of-health-clamps-down-as-nurses-flit-between-managed-isolation-facilities-hospital-wards.html

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    • Duker

       /  25th July 2020

      They are agency nurses for the staffing contractor Geneva. Thats how those jobs work, fill gaps at a range of locations for a shift or two… as they used to be called temps.
      Arent you familiar with the term.
      Its only unusual they are working at the isolation hotels and then later a ward somewhere
      The $500 would be the rate Geneva gets, who pay a lesser amount to the nurse.

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  3. Ironically compassionate leave was harder to get because of previous breaches.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th July 2020

      Depends on how close the relative was. For a parent or sibling it is understandable.

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      • The hotel’s well-named; it has the distinction of being the one with more absconders than the rest put together.

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      • NOEL

         /  25th July 2020

        “At 6.15pm last night the family were contacted by my team and were advised we were actively considering their application, and doing everything we could to support it. They were made aware that the application process was looking positive, and that they would be given a decision by 8pm last night.”

        At 7 pm they jumped the fence and apart from one recaptured at 8 pm.
        Defence lawyer better not use “grieving made them do it’ excuse.

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        • My mistake; the cop cars I saw can’t have been around for that reason as I was in the city earlier. . I did wonder.

          To escape before they heard the news (which could well have been that they could have the leave because of the circs) is insane.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  25th July 2020

          B.s. They needed to know they were going to be allowed to go there, not just that some remote bureaucrat was going to decide and tell them yes or no at 8pm. They obviously believed the answer was likely to be no.

          Crap communication and people management as I said.

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          • Fight4nz

             /  26th July 2020

            “ Crap communication and people management as I said.”
            I see a chance to finger point at [deleted, don’t use derogatory descriptions] means more than your zealous individual responsibility principles.

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  4. duperez

     /  25th July 2020

    It is understandable but well done to judge Noel Cocurullo.

    “I need to make it plain to you that the community I serve, the New Zealand public are sick and tired of people breaching the strict quarantine rules.”

    He said New Zealanders has done an extraordinary job keeping Covid-19 out of the community and if her actions had our that in jeopardy Kiwis would be “gutted”.

    Was their going to a funeral raising the possibility of more funerals? Yes.

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    • The chances of that are minuscule, but that’s not the point.

      I wonder if the prospect of starting the isolation again would be a deterrent. Or if breaking it meant that they would automatically be charged the cost of the accommodation, the police time and any other costs.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th July 2020

      It seems to have been completely mismanaged by the authorities. The kids’ father was being buried and evidently a process for their release to see him for the last time was not properly communicated, understood and managed.

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      • NOEL

         /  25th July 2020

        “At 6.15pm last night the family were contacted by my team and were advised we were actively considering their application, and doing everything we could to support it. They were made aware that the application process was looking positive, and that they would be given a decision by 8pm last night.”

        At 7 pm they jumped the fence and apart from one recaptured at 8 pm.
        Completely mismanaged…geez

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  25th July 2020

          Yes, obviously the communication was crap.

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          • Duker

             /  25th July 2020

            And the rest of the story….they could view the body but couldn’t attend the funeral ..and mix with the rels…which was part of the reason they came back.they didn’t like that one bit so took it into their own hands

            A lot different from the half truth…looking positive

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  25th July 2020

              Culturally mismanaged. A complete cock up.

            • Blazer

               /  26th July 2020

              Al rediscovers his compassion for…’culture’.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  26th July 2020

              Cultures can be good or bad, B, or a mixture. The villain in this episode was bureaucratic culture.

  5. I was in Hamilton yesterday, and saw and heard a lot of cop cars, even on the main road into the city. I’m glad that that was all it was !

    An Indian friend says that people are doing it there, too.

    The danger here is probably minuscule, but that’s not the point. I would far rather fine the people who do a runner and recoup some of the cost rather than make the cost far higher by giving them a prison sentence.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th July 2020

      I would be sacking those responsible for making the process so traumatic for this family.

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  6. PartisanZ

     /  25th July 2020

    Ironically, FEMA-style camps are probably coming because of the actions of a minuscule portion of the population … On a grander scale its why prisons exist …

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    • Corky

       /  25th July 2020

      FEMA camps. I posted on those. Even provided a clip. People told me it was all bs. We know better, eh, Parti.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  25th July 2020

        They were/are the perfectly logical consequence of several possible scenarios in particularly ‘Continental’ countries –

        1) Refugee and migrant border control

        2) Housing for the evacuees of natural or man-made disasters

        3) Possible POW camps in the event of war …

        4) Possible low-medium security prisons in the event of major civil unrest …

        What’s not to understand?

        Ideal Conspiracy Theorist fodder though … for False Dichotomy Paranoiacs …

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        • Corky

           /  25th July 2020

          ”What’s not to understand? ”

          That question should not be aimed at me.

          ”Ideal Conspiracy Theorist fodder though … for False Dichotomy Paranoiacs …”

          The conspiracy theroists have proven their point. The public ( as shown on this blog) just don’t care, or can’t get their heads around what the ultimate outcome will be. Like many Jews during the WW2.

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  25th July 2020

    As I have been saying, a complete cockup by the authorities. Why the hell were they sent to Hamilton by some numpty? And then screwed around for days?

    A few heads should be rolling.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300065838/mum-who-escaped-coronavirus-isolation-i-wanted-to-give-my-children-closure

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    • NOEL

       /  26th July 2020

      “At 6.15pm last night the family were contacted by my team and were advised we were actively considering their application, and doing everything we could to support it. They were made aware that the application process was looking positive, and that they would be given a decision by 8pm last night.”

      At 7 pm they jumped the fence and apart from one recaptured at 8 pm.

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  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th July 2020

    I am seeing Lefty control freak bureaucracy in action rather than humanity and common sense. I am on the side of the individual in this case.

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    • Fight4nz

       /  26th July 2020

      On that basis every Christmas somewhere a round of redundancies of powerless working people is announced. An undeniably harrowing experience at the hands of a CEO and Board no doubt fully committed to right wing politics.
      You would support those individuals in taking retaliatory action against those who sacked them?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  26th July 2020

        People are hired and fired every day for an infinite variety of reasons. Some of these decisions will be mistakes or wrong but the great thing about freedom is that everyone has the right to make mistakes and learn from them. Have you?

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        • Fight4nz

           /  26th July 2020

          So you advocate dumping the whole legal system. That’s brave of you.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  26th July 2020

            And that’s nonsense from you.

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            • Fight4nz

               /  26th July 2020

              Freedom is illegal breakout from quarantine?
              And freedom is wholesale firings, decimating lives at Christmas, by mistake?
              Seems your definition of freedom is as flawed as your definition of nonsense.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  26th July 2020

              Anyone who fires good staff gifts them to their competitors. Simple fact. Freedom is the right to choose who works for you and who you work for. Why would anyone want to work for a crap employer?

      • Pink David

         /  26th July 2020

        “On that basis every Christmas somewhere a round of redundancies of powerless working people is announced. An undeniably harrowing experience at the hands of a CEO and Board no doubt fully committed to right wing politics.”

        Is this the bit where you start signing the Internationale?

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        • Gezza

           /  26th July 2020

          I think the comment was made in the context of Al’s remark about the bureaucracy lacking humanity.

          To me it looked like they were finding a way for the kids to see their father within the set protocols meant to ensure safety for NZers from anyone who might have Covid-19.

          Was just a difficult situation for everyone involved. In a chain of command situation no one can say “Yes you can go, under these conditions” until it’s been signed off by all those involved.

          The remark about CEOs announcing layoffs around Christmas I think was meant in terms how how much humanity do they show?

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          • Pink David

             /  26th July 2020

            “the bureaucracy lacking humanity.”

            Yes it does. Not much difference between a government bureaucracy and a corporation bureaucracy in that regard.

            They are the same. Clams otherwise should be met with skepticism.

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          • Fight4nz

             /  26th July 2020

            Precisely Gezza.

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