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  1. lurcher1948

     /  2nd August 2020

    [Deleted],the saint protecting us from covid-19,Ms Ardern is turning NZ into a socialist state say the more radical right,so some statistics from today
    NZ 1562 cases 22 deaths 4 deaths per million
    Australia 17282 cases 201 deaths 8 deaths per million
    remember Australia is 5 times larger than New Zealand
    and also remember the national party wanted Australians to flood in,in a bubble,thank god we are lead by Jacinda Ardern and not National and ACT,they would allow death in

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    • Duker

       /  2nd August 2020

      Yep , Melbourne will go into level 4 lockdown some time this week. Second wave , who would have thought such things existed.
      Wonder why its National whos always on the wrong side of relality…. for about 2 weeks they supported the level 4 here, then have undermined any restrictions …end L 3 now , remove L1 border restrictions now… and they were the supposedly rational ones, a few were more like Trump in their views

      Even that Borrowdale case was a big fizzer, the biggest claim to ‘illegality’ was that Ardern ‘spoke too strongly’

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  2nd August 2020

        Not to mention the idiot now ex Police Commissioner making macho threats like a little Hitler.

        Decision is reserved. Govt lawyer pleading for court to be kind because they had to do it even if it was unlawful.

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        • The idea that National wanted Australians to flood in is a lie. neither they not ACT ever suggested such a thing. It wasn’t National’s sloppiness and delays in border testing that allowed C19 in; they wanted border testing, but Labour dragged their feet over it, then landed NZ with a $140,000,000,0000 debt to pay for the damage that they had caused. Divide that by 5,000,000 and see how much it is for every person.

          The statement that ACT wants death to come in is disgusting and another lie. They want people to be able to travel to Pacific Islands where there is no C19.

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          • duperez

             /  2nd August 2020

            The idea that people want awful things to happen is far-fetched?

            Do you know any Act people who would have been delighted for terrible things to happen to the economy to show the necessity of having Act and National in government? Or National supporters thinking the same?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  2nd August 2020

              Just want the public to see what is happening to the economy before it is too late to change the Govt. But the early election enables the Govt to bury bad news under an avalanche of spending.

            • Duker

               /  2nd August 2020

              The election date is same as 2017 , not ‘early’

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  2nd August 2020

              New Zealand law requires elections at least once every three years and two months, though elections are often held after three years, traditionally in November. The extra two months allow for some flexibility when returning to a fourth-quarter election after an early election, as happened in 2005 and 2008 after the 2002 snap election (see below).

              Early or “snap” elections have occurred at least three times in New Zealand’s history: in 1951, 1984 and 2002. Early elections often provoke controversy, as they potentially give governing parties an advantage over opposition candidates.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_New_Zealand

          • Blazer

             /  2nd August 2020

            certainly do not have a degree in maths!

            Hopeless.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  2nd August 2020

      What was deleted???? did i say Jacinda and thats a deletable word,HELL PG its getting hard to post avoiding (deleted)???? if i quote the bible first,something about stoning,,would that stop my first words being deleted,and ALWAYS ruining my only post of the day now.

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      • Don’t make sweeping statements about diverse groups of people like ‘right wingers’.

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        • Blazer

           /  2nd August 2020

          are loony lefties a …’diverse’ group?Bol.

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          • I think they are quite a diverse group. I discourage that sort of description here too. I also discourage moaning.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  2nd August 2020

          Well I tried to exercise an opinion,with no result no posts past from me but enjoy your evening.and didnt the blues play well.and the Canes beat them

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      • lurcher1948

         /  2nd August 2020

        Well it’s your blog PG [deleted false accusation],is it the Kiwiblog type of hatred or the total nasty type in YSB where they really hate,notice my groveling use of english,so I’m not deleted or banned.. us people from the center are so much more civilized than the losers in the next election.

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    • Pink David

       /  2nd August 2020

      “thank god we are lead by Jacinda Ardern and not National and ACT,they would allow death in”

      Quite right Lurcher. Death is stalking you. NZ must become the new Sentinel Island.

      Stay in your bubble.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  2nd August 2020

    A message from our Leader,Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to fire the troops up,Most preferred PM by a country mile,TRUST double the next party leader..says it all

    lurcher1948
    Three years ago today, I became the Leader of the Labour Party, and life changed pretty dramatically.

    Overnight, I went from being an opposition MP to preparing for televised debates, and from representing my wonderful electorate of Mount Albert to being privileged enough to represent our whole Party too.

    But while things changed for me personally in that time, what didn’t change was Labour’s commitment to building a better, fairer New Zealand. So, that day, as I stood up and held my first press conference as Leader, I wanted to reaffirm to voters that we were ‘positive, organised and ready’ and that we had a vision for New Zealand.

    Three years on, and just seven weeks out from this year’s election, I’m proud that we’ve lived up to that.

    We brought energy and momentum to the last election campaign, and continued this into Government, where we’ve delivered real progress on some of the biggest issues facing our country. We pulled together through the devastating Christchurch terrorist attacks, the Whakaari White Island eruption, and, of course, the COVID-19 pandemic.

    In all of this, we’ve not only reflected the strengths of our great Labour community, but we’ve reflected the qualities that define us all as New Zealanders. In the face of some real highs, and some heartbreaking lows, we have collectively stayed positive, worked together, and tackled the challenges facing New Zealand head on.

    And that’s what this campaign is about: continuing our journey forward, together. It’s going to take time to recover from COVID and rebuild our economy, but we have a plan and we’re already rolling it out.

    Keeping up the momentum will only be possible though if we are re-elected to form Government on 19 September. To do that, we need to secure enough party votes on election night.

    The number of votes we receive will come down to two things: Making sure Labour supporters get out and vote, and convincing people who aren’t sure to choose Labour.

    We’ve already got a brilliant volunteer team working on the first part of this – focussed on calling up supporters, knocking on doors and making sure they’re getting out to the ballot box to give their two ticks to Labour.

    The next part is a little more challenging. Sometimes undecided voters can be difficult to reach using traditional media like newspapers and TV.

    But we do have other ways to get in touch. Online adverts enable us to reach people with our message who, traditionally, have been hard to contact. And newspaper ads and leaflets enable us to reach people who may not be online, and may not watch much TV.

    These things, of course, cost money to do at any scale. But that’s what modern election campaigns rely on: using every tool we can to get our message out.

    So, with less than 50 days until the election, will you consider donating to help us reach even more people through our paid advertising programmes?
    Yes – I’ll donate now
    I know many of you have given before, and as always, I thank you for your incredible generosity. It’s no exaggeration to say that we wouldn’t have been able to form Government in 2017 if it wasn’t for the contributions of people like you. I hope that after September 19th, we’ll have the privilege of saying the same again.

    Thank you again for all of your support over the last few years, it wouldn’t have been the same without you.

    Thank you,so much, lurcher1948

    Jacinda Ardern,PM for another 6 years

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  2nd August 2020

    A vision of a horrible future, if ACT ever gets any power….wait for his MPs guns to appear
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeY11mYU0AEQx6l?format=jpg&name=small
    Please, Mr Goldsmith, remove this carpet bagger

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    • Corky

       /  3rd August 2020

      Well, if that’s true ( no link provided), those measures are good measures.

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  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  2nd August 2020
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