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  1. lurcher1948

     /  5th August 2020

    One saying I dislike is” a hard working New Zealander” where and what is the standard for hard working?

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    • Blazer

       /  5th August 2020

      It means anyone that is…working.

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    • Corky

       /  5th August 2020

      I would prefer the term; hard done by robbery victims. After the election, should Labour be in office, everyone will know what I mean

      Are you caling the election, or what, Lurchy?

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      • Blazer

         /  5th August 2020

        Hey Corky-

        3,048.89
        +65.67+2.20%

        Gold

        NZD New Zealand Dollar

        oz

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        • Corky

           /  5th August 2020

          Those are beautiful figures. Unfortunately at the moment I don’t have a cent to my name. After Sept 1 many more people will be joining me.

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          • Duker

             /  5th August 2020

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/122338348/official-unemployment-falls-to-4-in-june-quarter

            So far so good .
            4% in last quarter, which is an average over those 3 months.

            ‘Experts’ were predicting 6% would be a ‘good result’ Fools were saying much much higher numbers

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            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              Lockdown over 2 months ….that’s my point .it’s all history for hours worked.
              I’m glad all the economic gaslighters have been caught out.
              We had national party and it’s [deleted] say the slump was coming in Jan..
              Sure it’s not all great news but in the circumstances it’s good….as many but not all say things have returned to normal

            • “it’s all history for hours worked.”

              It’s far from over for hours worked. I’m well aware of this from my own experience, hours went down in March but that was limited by the wage subsidy, if nothing changes but the subsidy coming off this month then hours go down down, or in some cases, possibly many, jobs will be lost. Many are being given notice now.-

          • Too soon to tell what the impact on unemployment will be. We have to wait and see what happens after the subsidy stops this month. There will almost certainly be an increased in unemployment

            And that’s only a part of the impact. Many people are already working reduced hours, and some are likely to be further reduced when the subsidy comes off.

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            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              The news is that ii good news – so far- not that bad news is yet to happen
              Why always the gas lighting?
              You arent like the reporters who have pre written bad news storys ready for today
              Its like the ‘bad news’ about the PGF .. a fizzer where the funds were ‘over subsribed by many times’…wow thats a real deal changer.

            • I suspect you didn’t read the article you linked to very well, if at all.

              The official unemployment rate measures the average unemployment rate during each quarter, rather than the unemployment rate at the end of the quarter.

              Stats NZ estimated unemployment had risen to 6.2 per cent during the final week of June…

              The drop in official unemployment for the quarter also resulted from a much larger decline in the number of New Zealanders looking for work.

              To be counted as unemployed, someone must have been actively seeking work or due to start a job in the following four weeks.

              The number of people who were in employment was down 11,000 on average during the three months to the end of June and the total number of hours that people were paid to work fell 3.4 per cent.

              The total number of hours that were actually worked during the period slumped by 10.3 per cent which was the biggest drop since records began in 1986 and reflected the fact that many people were still in employment but unable to work during level 4 and level 3.

              Broughton said Stats NZ’s measure of workforce underutilisation which was a “broader measure of spare capacity in the labour market” rose to 12 per cent, from 10.4 per cent in the March quarter.

              The labour force participation rate fell 0.8 percentage points to 69.7 per cent.

            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              I did read it … you took the wrong conclusions like I knew you would
              “The total number of hours that were actually worked during the period slumped by 10.3 per cent which was the biggest drop since records began in 1986 and reflected the fact that many people were still in employment but unable to work during level 4 and level 3.”
              The lockdown is over nearly 2 months now

              Here is a graph from your own blog showing when it ‘was really bad’

            • “The lockdown is over nearly 2 months now”

              The statistics are for the June quarter, that’s April, May, June, while the lockdown was not over.

              The lockdown is over, but the pressure on hours and on jobs is still on. There’s no doubt both will reduce further next month, it’s a matter of by how much.

              And the statistics show that jobseeking was surging towards the end of June, that is likely to continue.

            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              Yes. Also includes NZ ers coming back, 35,000 so far. So far not many jobs for them but that was why they came back from overseas living or travelling as no jobs offshore and no benefits especially Australia

          • lurcher1948

             /  5th August 2020

            Corky i have heaps,where did you go wrong with your life, i invested my redundancy and are comfortable, COMFORTABLE

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            • Corky

               /  5th August 2020

              I said have no money to my name at the moment. I didn’t say I have no earning assets, of which I have a few…plus my minimum lotto payout each week of $300. However, the payout is usually between $1,200,$3000 per week. Righties may go through hard times, Lurchy..but they are rarely without a bob in their pocket.

            • Blazer

               /  5th August 2020

              Ripley’s…believe it or…not.

            • Corky

               /  5th August 2020

              I reckon the redunacy went on an overseas trip. Lurchy now plays the harmonica outside his local P&S to add a little money to his state pension.

          • Not having a cent to your name means that you don’t have any money; what else could it mean ? This includes income earning assets.

            How much more than the prizes do you have to spend to win that amount on Lotto ?

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            • Griff.

               /  5th August 2020

              He is full of it as usual

            • Corky

               /  5th August 2020

              $ 800 outlay, Science Boy… with the Newtonian mindset.

            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              he just tells the tax man his cash income is ‘lotto winnings’ every week and non taxable .
              When they catch you , its starts with home detention, you could bet online , but dont of course as its a sham.

            • Corky

               /  5th August 2020

              Taxman…what are you on about? Slim pickings on the other blogs?

  2. David

     /  5th August 2020

    Watched Collins on the AM Show this morning, she is a class act and a polished performer its a wonder that she hasnt been leader before now.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  5th August 2020

      Got to work on that silly looking smirk that shes adopted,it make you think what carnage shes would unleash on NZ if we didnt have PM Jacinda Ardern protecting us…that’s why Ms Collins was the last cab of the rank for National,they know.

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      • She smiles, she doesn’t smirk unlike the PM who also grimaces and wrinkles up her face in a way that is already producing wrinkles that will never go.

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    • Blazer

       /  5th August 2020

      Maybe she can take over from Ellen De Generes!

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      • Duker

         /  5th August 2020


        Same sourpuss look

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        • Corky

           /  5th August 2020

          Talking of sourpuss looks, wait until after September 1.

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          • Duker

             /  5th August 2020

            She will say it was rigged …you wait as she gets adulation every where she goes, especially AM show where the presenters are her poodles

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  3. The trumpagandists are going to hate this. Another Trumpagandist conspiracy theory has been shattered.

    The US Dept., of Justice says they’ve completed their review of 29 FISA warrants that were flagged by the Inspector General following the Mueller investigationm for being non-copmpliant.

    Bill Barr’s DOJ review found only 2 material errors and found that all of the applications contained sufficient basis for probable cause.

    From Bill Barr’s own team: no witch hunts. No hoaxes. No abuse of the FISA process. No Democrat deep state.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-assistant-attorney-general-national-security-john-c-demers-public-release

    https://www.justice.gov/nsd/page/file/1300701/download

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  5th August 2020

    Mr Banks interviewing Cameron Slater on Magic National party radio,he has hit the bottom of the barrel of National and ACT people to interview…who next??? white power

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    • Gerrit

       /  5th August 2020

      I guess you missed his interview with Sir Bob Harvey? Ardern love fest. As Banksie said after the Harvey interview, some balance.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  5th August 2020

        Mr Banks is interviewing Sir Key tomorrow, nearly at the bottom of the barrel

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        • Duker

           /  5th August 2020

          Key is saying ‘open the borders’…he seems to have fallen for the herd immunity approach …or does Key want to ‘travel’ ?

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          • He is suggesting easing the restrictions, NOT saying ‘open the border.’

            Do try to keep up.

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            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              Our restrictions HAVE eased until border restrictions are the last ones.
              Your ignorance is astounding.
              Our quarantine hotels are full now, and not all the Kiwis who want to can come back when they want to.\
              Where are these non kiwis going to quarantine …your place ?

              Does he really think we have a ‘little bit of covid ‘ but not too much…. and when it does come back that we wont have to lock down again because ?

            • Your jumping to contradict me is absurd; it should be obvious from the context that I was talking about border restrictions. You can’t think that we have open borders now; we have never had them. Hence my saying that he wants to ease restrictions, not open the borders. The fact that the two things were in the same sentence makes it obvious that BORDER restrictions are meant. Your interpretation is either malicious or the result of poor comprehension skills.

            • Needless to say that he did NOT say that ‘we have a little bit of covid’.

              Nor did he say ‘open the borders’; in fact, he said that this would be crazy.

              What he did say was that we need people with skills and money.

            • duperez

               /  5th August 2020

              What he seemed to have said:
              “John Key says NZ should let in ‘rich’ Americans who want to build a house.”
              “Why don’t we let in rich Americans who want to build a house in New Zealand? Who cares? They’re in Mangawhai or somewhere, they are going to create thousands of jobs.
              “Why do we care if someone who lives in New York wants to spend $10 million building a house in Auckland, using NZ craftsmen and NZ tradespeople?”

              So the answer to our housing situation is to employ builders to build $10 million dollar houses in Mangawhai or Auckland for American immigrants?

              I might look past some of the absurdity of that if they paid for what we are providing. They are purchasing a very precious, rare commodity. Everyone knows rare commodities cost an absolute premium. They might have the pocket money for $10 million cottages but they can’t have enough to buy their way in here unless those on the gate are employed there having sold their own children and grandmothers into slavery.

              What they are buying is a legacy, a legacy built by others. They, from The Land of The Free, would be buying freedom and the freedom to live in New Zealand. They would be buying a haven to escape to. They have helped fuck up their own country and would be buying an escape ticket. (I suppose they could claim to be refugees.)

              All of their money and power couldn’t make their country own desirable. Freedom is just another commodity to be bought and sold and they have the money and the desire to flash their credit card and buy.

              If we are going to take refugees let’s take genuine ones not cowards or rats off a sinking ship. Let them stay home and tend their own nest. People restricted with bone spurs do that.

            • Duker

               /  5th August 2020

              It’s called trickle down…
              We have had 35,000 kiwis come home….we are all over this we need skilled people immediately …from overseas
              Key played that music for all the years as PM …which he isn’t anymore …but it’s nice for me who like to continue to skewer him as he stays on the stage of public opinion
              Did you not know that some 2000 people have arrived under exemptions, what more can we do….make rich people to the head of the queue?

  5. Corky

     /  5th August 2020

    65 people join the scrap heap.

    https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/

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    • lurcher1948

       /  5th August 2020

      When i was thrown on the scrapheap of life, redundancy Corky…where were YOU,NOT holding my hand

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      • Corky

         /  5th August 2020

        Give me the date you got the chop, Lurchy…and I will back check my diaries.

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    • Duker

       /  5th August 2020

      Scrapheap ?
      the only one i found was this
      “A $28 million package of ‘shovel ready’ roading and water projects in Omokoroa will soon get underway after receiving a $14 million grant……”

      as for the other one …the real reason
      “secondly the buildings at the plant do not meet new seismic strength requirements.”

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      • Corky

         /  5th August 2020

        ”as for the other one …the real reason
        “secondly the buildings at the plant do not meet new seismic strength requirements.”

        That was ONE of the reasons, maybe the main one. But Covid hastened the closure and any chance of remedial action.

        https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/249193-proposed-closure-of-tauranga-fish-plant.html

        Funny you mention Omokoroa. I recently put a photo away of the Omokoroa peninsula . The peninsula was developed by a family friend in the 50s; early 60s if I remember correctly. Our family received a photo of the proposed project. It was all bare land…now it’s gold.

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        • Duker

           /  5th August 2020

          So Sanford had less exports of fish, which is the government’s fault is it.?
          Lots of overseas restaurants licked down….must be government here fault.

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  6. Duker

     /  5th August 2020

    Another of the Collins national MPs continuing falsehoods

    National’s new housing spokesperson has falsely claimed her party built 30,000 state homes when they were last in power, and claimed her party now backs rental standards they voted against and recently promised to scrap.
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/07/national-housing-spokesperson-jacqui-dean-falsely-claims-they-built-30-000-state-homes-when-last-in-power.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    All a big joke probably, or confused by the question….stand by for some more mental health leave

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