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  1. Corky

     /  17th August 2020

    Oh!!! It really doesn’t matter whether Katie is right or wrong. The Jacinda affect is fading.
    Crikey, nearly 30,000 views since yesterday.

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    • duperez

       /  17th August 2020

      17,613 of those were mine. I was just testing to see if a comparable rate of hysteria there was, is, about covid -19, could be generated by some cretinous desperate splurge.

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      • Corky

         /  17th August 2020

        I believe you. You’d be the type of person who’d spend 8 hours straight on the keyboard hammering away.

        I find this clip fascinating for the same reason you don’t…an outsider looking in and bursting the fairytale bubble.

        If Jacinda picks October for our election, you will know her pixie dust bottle is empty.

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        • Corky

           /  17th August 2020

          Yes, as I thought. The nearest date for trying to placate all involved…and likely to cause Labour the least loss of support.

          The sly ways of socialism.

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    • Blazer

       /  17th August 2020

      Katie, that most desperate of publicity hounds…..is rarely right about ..anything.

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      • Uptick from me, alpha and omega.

        Katie H is rightly called the most hated woman in England. Anyone who mocks the current physical appearance of a cancer victim is beyond despicable.

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    • Fight4nz

       /  17th August 2020

      So this woman is quite happy to ignore the facts that the current raised Alert levels are supported by the main opposition and the measures put in place to clarify government powers also.
      You really love your shock jocks don’t you Corky.

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    • Fight4nz

       /  17th August 2020

      So this woman is quite happy to ignore the facts that the current raised Alert levels are supported by the main opposition and the measures put in place to clarify government powers also.
      You really love your shock jocks don’t you Corky.

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      • Corky

         /  17th August 2020

        Just as a matter of interest ( I will forget you didn’t read my post), what has she said that is bs v what she has said that’s true? Some comments accompanying this clip on U Tube are interesting.

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        • Fight4nz

           /  17th August 2020

          I read your post and didn’t contradict it.
          She starts with something like “ did you know Jacinda Ardern, the NZ Prime Minister has..”. And pretty much everything after that is bs. That’s as much as I can break it down for you.

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          • Corky

             /  17th August 2020

            No, you didn’t read my post. To reiterate:

            ”Oh!!! It really doesn’t matter whether Katie is right or wrong. The Jacinda affect is fading.”

            Now..here is some real bs:

            ”And pretty much everything after that is bs. That’s as much as I can break it down for you.”

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  2. David

     /  17th August 2020

    Trumps middle east deal is quite remarkable and absolutely no coverage which is sad. First Israel Arab deal in 30 plus years.

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    • artcroft

       /  17th August 2020

      Ha ha ha, you tell funny joke. Trump responsible for Israel UAE deal. Ha ha… Trump “What is UAE?”

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      • David

         /  17th August 2020

        United Arab Emirates…and Israel has agreed to no more annexing. Its acknowledged across the board, even by Biden, as a big deal.

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        • artcroft

           /  17th August 2020

          It’s a biggish deal. But Israel will continue to annex the West bank, despite what Netanyahu says for now.

          Trump had no role in this, because he is just a troll. Trolling is all he does. He hasn’t built a wall, he hasn’t replaced Obamacare and he hasn’t brokered peace in the Middle East. This was a arrange by the UAE and Israel without much US interest.

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          • David

             /  17th August 2020

            He brokered the deal, much as you may not like it it is his deal. Its inconvenient but he destroyed ISIS, killed the Iranian terrorist General, drew a firm line on Syrian chemical weapons use.
            The Arab world has to acknowledge that Israel is going nowhere and the UAE is first cab off the rank to acknowledge publicly this situation and that the biggest middle east problem is Iran. In effect you can thank Obama/Biden for this peace deal because they funded and enabled Iran who repaid them by spreading disruption right through the region through their funding of terrorist groups. The assassination of Iranian general Solemani was a pivotal moment in this positive deal and now we await the Saudi,s to follow suit formally to cement the relationship they have on security with Israel.

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            • artcroft

               /  17th August 2020

              Hmmm, you seem to be enthralled to a naive ‘noble white man versus the wicked and foolish brown man’ version of history.

              Iran became a problem for the US after the US backed, 1953 coup d’état was undone by the 1979 overthrow of the Shah. Something the US has never forgiven Iran for, and now uses to vilify Iran at every turn.
              Even to the point of shooting down Iranian civilian airliners.

              Zionism and the taking of Arab land by European Jews is backed by the US is another serious impediment to peace in the region. If I was Arab or Persian I imagine I would have a less than rosy view of US actions in the region.

    • Corky

       /  17th August 2020

      I agree, Dave. But you must understand our media has conspiracy theories to angst over. And…isn’t Trump American; Conservative and doesn’t believe in much of this Covid bs?
      Those are no-no’s for our Leftwing media.

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    • Blazer

       /  17th August 2020

      It is a non event .

      Only designed to give Trump a lift.

      The Zionists love Trump and annexing Palestinian territory.

      Like the IRA ,the PLO will not be going away either.

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  3. Corky

     /  17th August 2020

    I watched Sunday on TV One. Both Jacinda and Judith were interviewed. Of course, Miriama Kamo was selected to interview Jacinda. She is so woke without appearing to be.

    Jacanda’s interview was like a torrent of bliss that swept over me. I felt loved and nurtured.
    Hell, I was beginning to think Jacinda had been misunderstood.

    Then Judith was interviewed. It was like falling off a candy floss cloud onto gravel. Judith had much less verbiage, answers and musing were short and to the point. It was shock. But then Judith started to make sense. You could understand what she was about. What she was going to do. What she wasn’t going to do, and with her quip about not getting angry; but getting even, meant you knew she could handle herself.

    That to me that is what being the PM is all about. Making decisive decisions..and punishing your enemies.

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    • Blazer

       /  17th August 2020

      Good article Al.

      Looks like Covid will be around awhile.

      Lets see how effective the Russian vaccine is.

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    • Pink David

       /  17th August 2020

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      • Fight4nz

         /  17th August 2020

        Looking at the other posts in that feed it is all from rwnj central, so difficult to know if credible.
        Strikes me that both came into summer at the same time, so that’s a fairly obvious flaw.
        It is in line with the basic ideas from the Bloomberg article AW posted, which was a fuller review of the evidence and seemed reasonably solid.
        Who wants to volunteer to be part of the 43%?

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        • Pink David

           /  17th August 2020

          “Strikes me that both came into summer at the same time, so that’s a fairly obvious flaw.”

          Yes. That happens in the Northern hemisphere. Are you extrapolating from this that Covid is seasonal?

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          • Fight4nz

             /  17th August 2020

            Personally it seems likely to have a seasonal cycle. But not my point.
            From the tweet “ Only thing in common is similar antibody levels.” I just pointed one other thing in common. How many more?

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            • Pink David

               /  18th August 2020

              Indeed. The more of these things there are, the more evidence we have the lockdowns are totally pointless.

      • Duker

         /  17th August 2020

        “NY wears masks, closed business, closed schools, and mandates social distancing. ”

        The timing was everything…NT left it far too late.

        We see the same nearby in Melbourne, for their second wave they waited something like 3-4 weeks of limited measures before getting a level 4 lockdown , we went to level 3 in Auckland 2 1/2 days after our first confirmed second wave cluster.

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        • Pink David

           /  17th August 2020

          Doesn’t this simply mean a future of running for lockdowns every time someone sneezes?

          Your plan is simply to lockdown totally every time there is a case?

          How do you get out?

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          • Fight4nz

             /  17th August 2020

            That’s the rub.
            So you and your family volunteering to be in our 43% to achieve herd immunity?

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            • Pink David

               /  18th August 2020

              “So you and your family volunteering to be in our 43% to achieve herd immunity?”

              I most certainly am. This causes me no concern at all. For anyone under 65 the risk is comparable to driving a car. For those under 25 it is at the risk level of getting hit by lightening.

              I ride a motorbike, that presents a greater risk to me than Covid by a very large margin. We can also balance this against the very real risks of lockdown policies, which absolutely have a significant health effect on the vast majority.

              You also understand this is what is going to happen regardless of lockdown policy don’t you?

      • Griff.

         /  17th August 2020

        Gee covid gets spread faster in a place with a population density of 159/km2 than it does in one with 25/km2
        Who would have thunk being close to others could effect infection rates in a disease spread through contact and respiratory droplets?
        Any one with a functioning brain cell that’s who.

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        • Pink David

           /  17th August 2020

          “Gee covid gets spread faster in a place with a population density of 159/km2 than it does in one with 25/km2”

          That may well be true. However, almost the entire population of Sweden is in the south. It’s more densely populated than New Jersey, and around half the density of New York.

          Australia has a population density of 3/km2, why are people dying in Melbourne?

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        • Pink David

           /  17th August 2020

          Just for comparison, New Jersey had more death than New York.

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  17th August 2020

    Deaths per million
    Iceland 29 per million
    New Zealand 4 per million
    Iceland is the right benchmark

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  5. Although only cafes, restaurants and bars have to keep records of customers. a lot of shops are doing so although they were told last time that this was not necessary at L2. The Hamilton Transport Centre not only won’t let people in unless they do, they have shut all the dunnies except one. It’s absurd. Only one person can sit on each bus seat and they have to be on the aisle on one, by the window of the one behind and so on. As the distance is nothing like 2m even with this, it seems pointless.

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  6. Duker

     /  17th August 2020

    Another one of those irresponsible people like Peters saying the virus arrived through a breach of quarantine for latest cluster

    The origin of the cluster remains a mystery. But Bloomfield said authorities believed it was transmitted through the border “somehow”.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122467204/coronavirus-testing-could-confirm-possible-melbourneauckland-cluster-link

    Somehow? ….Peters and his fellow travellers who back his story will soon be exposed as the shameless rumourmongers they are…..

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