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  1. David

     /  18th August 2020

    A good piece from Stuff, it can happen, pointing out that the spin and the reality are quite different and subtly poking the finger at the media who in my mind have been far too quick in attacking the opposition for asking questions and ignoring the holes in the system. Which is more important, well yes.
    Stuff also point out the level 3 lockdown is way over the top when we could have level 2 with face masks and distancing and a proper tracing system that gets 100% of contacts not 80%.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/122470657/security-and-enforcement-need-to-be-robust

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    • Duker

       /  18th August 2020

      It wasnt ‘asking questions’ ….It was just saying ‘Ive been hearing things’ and then leaving the dead rat on the table…No evidence. No willingness to answer any follow up questions. Zilch

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  2. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  18th August 2020

    What is the (Government’s) long-term plan for managing Covid-19?

    Here’s an alternative plan from some Auckland University Academics
    https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/

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    • Jack

       /  18th August 2020

      Looks good Maggie. Hopefully it is supported. Kiwi ingenuity.
      I keep expecting Jacinda to about turn and say, “Let’s rethink this”. Surely with her personality she could pull that off and still win the election?
      Character is another matter altogether.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th August 2020

      Far too sensible for our alarmist media as well as sabotaging the nation’s need for Saint Jacinda’s reelection.

      They prefer to call out the cops to arrest people for enjoying the beaches or their beach houses where there is exactly zero risk of infection. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

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      • Duker

         /  18th August 2020

        They can enjoy their beach houses, as people outside Auckland can tell you.

        Only Aucklanders cant go outside the region…..some locals seem to be waiting for any carpetbaggers arrivals with pitchforks…so far no Police involved apart from the ‘border’

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  18th August 2020

          Waiheke dipstick local politician with a big mouth. Her local businesses depend on Aucklanders as do ours. Those on government payouts are probably the only ones protesting “invasion”.

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          • Duker

             /  18th August 2020

            Same in Coromandel…. not that welcoming in Mangawhai either and that is just a few km over the ‘border’.
            a few shopkeepers and rentiers are the only ones favouring them , 95% of permanent residents want them to stay home

            If I was the Public health/Police I would have chosen the regions natural boundary, Hunuas, Waikato River, Brynderwyns etc as the checkpoints. Reduces the roads to be watched by 2/3
            ie Pokeno and Mangawhai are inside Auckland..Langs beach is outside

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th August 2020

              Dipsticks don’t realise their local businesses and services will disappear if 2/3 of their customers are kept out. As I said, the world is full of idiots (and they have the loudest mouths).

            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              They will manage like they always do over the quiet winter months.
              Coromandel for instance many would drive to Thames for a big shop.
              Mangawhai would do the same at Warkworth .
              Even you have to travel outside your town to get many things, which is what small towns have always done.
              What isnt happening is the jaffas arriving ….
              Not expecting Auckland level 3 to last past next week.

        • Griff.

           /  18th August 2020

          I am at Langs right now.
          Very quite no batches occupied just the usual long term residents.
          Girl took five hours to get from AK to here because of the check points.
          FWIW Girl left AK before the lockdown started and intends to stay here for the duration as she did last time . No shops needed she is stocked up to subsist for months.

          Went for a fish Sunday limit bag of good snapper in half an hour .

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      • Alan, I took a bag of donations to the Sallies yesterday. The busybody jobsworth at the door was herding us like sheep and making everyone sign in (not even the Warehouse was doing this) then slopping a great dollop of hand sanitiser onto our hands; the sticky kind that doesn’t dry properly. This was Hamilton.

        How to turn off donors and customers.

        Covid is the jobsworths’ dream come true.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  18th August 2020

    Apparently covid is as sneaky as the National party dirty tricks brigade

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    • Jack

       /  18th August 2020

      I agree with you Lurcher.
      Looks like you think about the spirit of the matter.

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      • There is no dirty tricks brigade.This is a tired old accusation, not backed up by anything.

        National are not the ones pretending that all border workers were being tested when only a small % were. The new Minister of Health even said that these tests were being done (last night?) when they hadn’t begun, and had to be corrected.

        It’s not the fault of the virus that it’s back in; it’s Labour and the CoL’s Keystone Kovid Kommunications stuff-ups and deceptions. It’s more good luck than good management that it’s not worse.

        The PM didn’t even ask if the tests were, in fact, being carried out, from the sound of it, and nor did anyone else who should have. It wasn’t up to her expectations, she says (or words to that effect)

        It wasn’t up to ours, either, Jacinda.

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        • Blazer

           /  18th August 2020

          There is no dirty tricks brigade.This is a tired old accusation, not backed up by anything.’

          ‘Dirty Politics’-by N.Hager…

          check Jason Ede and his role in the Key Govt.

          A plethora of evidence if you open your…eye.

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  4. Jack

     /  18th August 2020

    Some will scoff me as off topic, but no.
    David Clark is a Pres minister. After many years with them I am qualified to talk about churches in NZ being a large part of the problem, including our Covid responses.
    This debacle reeks of ‘everything is too hard’ whereas in our country of islands everything should be pleasant.
    It’s easy to stop this virus at the border. The trouble clearly is that no one in leadership actually firmly believes we should deal with it in this manner….. frustrating drama for us all, fear, suspicion and so on. That’s the churches (not only Pres) to a tee – an inherent part of our Kiwi culture, whether or not you are a ‘church goer’.
    This Covid is a symptom of how we would rather complain…run in circles, get wound up… than to get it sussed. Watch the next thing now – how self righteous and publicly ‘resilient’ we are when the simplest of true notions are stated.
    The next generations deserve better.
    https://www.amazon.com/author/hakaonthepew

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    • Blazer

       /  18th August 2020

      So how does David Clark fit into your…tale?

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      • Jack

         /  18th August 2020

        A hand wringer, nice looking face plumped out with mind mush. Very unKiwi …B…
        David Clark is stuck in a cult, or two.

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        • Duker

           /  18th August 2020

          He seems to have done theological training ordained and then as a Minister but then became Treasury analyst..like Bill English ( who never worked as a farmer apart from student holidays on family farm). Worked in Germany as well. MP since 2012.
          Once was competitive cyclist and ironman type events

          Work as Minister seems to be a very small part of his life

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          • Jack

             /  18th August 2020

            A small part of his life? Thanks for enlightening me. Now I understand how he fits in Jacinda’s cult where it’s people it’s people it’s people… yeah, nah

            Once a pcanz elder always an elder. It shows. Like I said, he’s stuck in one or more cults.

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            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              Member of Parliament for Dunedin North 2011 – current
              Minister of Health October 2017 – July 2020
              Associate Minister of Finance October 2017 – April 2020
              Labour Health Spokesperson March 2017 – October 2017
              Labour Economic Development Spokesperson 2013, 2014 – 2017
              Labour Associate Finance Spokesperson 2013 – October 2017
              Labour Associate Health Spokesperson 2013 – March 2017
              Labour Small Business Spokesperson 2013 – 2014
              Labour Revenue Spokesperson 2012 – 2013, 2013 – 2014
              Labour Associate Tertiary Education Spokesperson 2012 – 2013
              Warden, Selwyn College Dunedin 2008 – 2011
              Advisor, to Hon David Parker 2006 – 2007
              Analyst, Treasury 2003 – 2006
              PhD Student, University of Otago 2000 – 2003
              Presbyterian Minister, Community of St Luke 1997 – 2000
              University Exchange Student, Germany 1997
              Student, University of Otago, BA, BTheol(Hons) 1991 – 1996

              Seems like about about 4 years as a minister
              His current Church commitments are;
              Member All Saints Redevelopment Trust
              Celebrant, marriages, civil unions and funerals
              Member, Presbytery of Dunedin
              http://www.davidclark.org.nz/about

              Growing up in the Manse is a common thread in previous senior labour Mps, even if they dont go onto ordination.
              Wasnt it Lange, Cullen Caygill, Prebble and others ?

  5. duperez

     /  18th August 2020

    In our country of isles “everything should be pleasant”? Unfortunately there are people here so little chance of that.
    It’s easy to stop the virus at the border? People are involved so what chance of that?

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  18th August 2020

    USA 524 deaths per million
    NZ 4 deaths per million
    who would trust any Trump utterances

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th August 2020

      Those who would like to go to work and have their businesses survive?

      Maggy’s Plan B also thinks NZ has got it wrong.

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  7. Duker

     /  18th August 2020

    Interesting chart numbers from the Covid impacts

    Current numbers of Income Relief recipients Aug 7 25,133 (lost their job because of Covid

    Numbers on Jobseeker benefit 19th Jun 190,000 up around 1/3 from low point at beginning of Mar ( includes those arrived from Overseas jobless)
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/daily-charts

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  8. Corky

     /  18th August 2020

    Talkback is picking up on the Mickey Mouse regional border around Auckland. I haven’t seen anything in MSM. Apparently it’s par for the course regarding anything this gummmint is involved with.

    One sheila told of being allowed out of Auckland but not allowed back in.

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    • Duker

       /  18th August 2020

      Whtas mickey mouse about that ? She had some sort of reason to leave , but no reasons to return..shes just found out she cant come and go as she pleases

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      • Corky

         /  18th August 2020

        It involves paper work ( another balls up). Let’s see if MSM investigate. Oh, the woman was an essential worker.

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    • duperez

       /  18th August 2020

      Easiest thing to do is have no restrictions. Everyone can travel wherever they like whenever they like. Some would probably get a little upset if covid-19 cases appeared all over the country and spread like wildfire. Some people wouldn’t mind, saying ‘everyone has to die at some time.’

      Others will say there should be cops out checking on or stopping people from travelling. Which would draw the calls about a ‘police state.’

      The only people who know exactly what should be done are in places like this and on talkback radio. Not many of them explicitly say what they would do and outline their detailed plans. They use generalisations like “I would make people safe, I would protect the economy, the government has got it wrong, they couldn’t organises a piss up in a brewery.”

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th August 2020

        Plan B has it right.

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      • Corky

         /  18th August 2020

        What are you on about? Since when does a poorly run (?) border equate with no border at all?

        You need to make up your mind: Am I going to troll…or, I’m I going post rationally?

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        • Only you can make up your mind about that.

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        • duperez

           /  18th August 2020

          Well c’mon then, tell us exactly how you would ‘run the border.’

          Tell us how you would have run the border on February 18th, March 18th, April 18th June 18th.

          Your hand is perpetually on the bottle of condemnation condiments. Convince us that tour way is better, would have been better than what was done.

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          • If you mean me, the obvious thing would be to actually test everyone at the border rather than a small % and not just pretend that this is being done; and not put out false information that it’s happening.

            Had this happened, we would probably not be in L3 and L2 again.

            Only testing a small number is ridiculous. It’s worse than ridiculous. It could cost lives and is costing billions of $.

            Why were we misinformed about the border testing ?

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          • Corky

             /  18th August 2020

            It has nothing to do with me. This gummint has said they are on to it. The PM continually parroted that we lead the world in some regards.

            One thing I would have done…as I mentioned a few days back would have been to have all border staff tested. That is just SO SIMPLE. I would also have had them rotated on a 5 day roster to stop laxness and bond forming with detainees.

            I would also have bought in the army for Auckland regional border duties. A well advertised website and office would be created to cater for all paperwork for essential workers and people wanting to leave or re enter Auckland.

            Of could think of heaps more things. But to understand the concepts would need to know advanced logistics.

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            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              Bring in the Army ?……do try to keep up

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              That’s the army? That’s a guy in camflouage clothing. All I have seen on TV is Police Officers. However, I may be wrong. I don’t know.

            • duperez

               /  18th August 2020

              So from way back you would have had all border staff tested? You would also have had them rotated on a 5 day roster to stop laxness and bond forming with detainees. All border staff.

              You would have bought in the army for Auckland regional border duties and there would have been a well advertised website and office would be created to cater for all paperwork for essential workers and people wanting to leave or re enter Auckland.

              In acknowledging that dealing with reality would have enquired knowing advanced logistics. You seem to admit you don’t have that knowledge. The lack of knowledge hasn’t stopped you being in carping mode for months.

              Your explanation of what you would have done doesn’t diminish my perception that you’re all PAW.

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              I’m sorry I call out your bs. But you deserve it. You couldn’t even predict when the new election date. I guessed it near spot on.

              There are different modes contained within advanced logistics. I have found and been taught Critical Path Analysis. While primary an engineering project skill, I have found CERTAIN aspects of it relate well to logistics.. especially counter intuitively, eg when to reverse steps from their logical order; when to stand down workers and their tasks even when a project is behind schedule etc.

              Hence the reason for my roster…it helps curtail future problems on the Critical Path. Of course, if you knew anything about this, a weakness in my plan is the possible increased infection rate amongst border staff because of my short roster rotation. However, all this could be worked out.

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              * The new election date.

            • It should have been obvious that testing people at one border and not another was incredibly stupid.

              I can’t understand how Megan Woods et al failed to notice that the tests that we were told were going to happen…didn’t.

            • duperez

               /  18th August 2020

              My bs Corky was giving you the invitation to show that your ramblings weren’t bs.

              You continued over months to say the wrong thing was being done, they should have down this they should have done that, they got it wrong, they’re wrecking the economy.

              A simple outline past platitudes would have been good. Like on the 30th January the government on chartering a flight to evacuate New Zealanders from Wuhan, should have stopped anyone coming into the country. Or left that move until February 28th when the first known case was in the country? And gone into the ‘levels’ system sometime from then until March 21st, or not done anything like that? Or done something else?

              Or done nothing. Critical Path Analysis? On January 30th, February 28th March 22nd? The critical path was a road others had to navigate and drive down while the expert passengers complaining from the back seat, with no GPS when asked for something coherent resorted to beating round the bush.

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              HDA has just destroyed Chris Hipkins. And I believe Judith has done the same with Jacinda in the house. HDA did what MSM can’t…pulled him up on his bs.

              The figure for border passes out of Auckland is 5000, 700 of which have been processed If I heard RIGHT. Hence my reason for a stand-alone office to handle such

              Meanwhile you post in RIDDLES. That’s what Jacinda and Chris are doing. So many words, meaning nothing. A sure sign you have no idea on how to spin a situation that becomes worse by the day.

              Do me a favour. Don’t waste my time again.

            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              So much destroying and crushing….all for nothing, been through this before…it makes very little difference , that national party base loves it , you love it . Everyone else moves on.
              Collins job one is …. Just stay in her job. ..and her caucus votes are the key to that, but a 30% election vote on her own standard means resign….which she want to break that promise.

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              Oh dear. One News, Three News had items on the Auckland border. Did I say talback was tracking this before MSM? Why, yes I did. And that paper work…yep, just as the lady had said on talkback. And those cars…lined up for kms..also mentioned on talkback.

              I could go on buts what’s the use.

              One thing I will say..Gerry Brownlee missed another golden opportunity to hit the media after they mentioned a email from him to party members saying the MSM is biased. When challenged by the media to give some examples he went soft.

              I mentioned this the other day…he should have hunkered down and told the media they are Leftwing toerags. He should then have given the example of Katie Bradford and her reporting. He should then have said the media quizzing him about that email straight after the gummint had had a terrible day as another example.

              Brownlee needs to front up or shut up. There’s many votes waiting for National if they go after the media.

            • Corky

               /  18th August 2020

              Here’s the rub…this chap is a gummint minister. A usually competent one. But not anymore because he knows he’s talking bs.

              How many hits can this outfit take before they disintegrate?

              https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/chris-hipkins-temperature-checks-the-regular-test-for-workers/

            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              Go after the media …as if that will work.
              Hoskng has been a fan boy five days a week as the polls dropped, the 85% who don’t listen to his show don’t give a FF how much he rubbishes the government, and you go on about Katie Bradford
              What Audrey Young, her father was and brother are national MPs
              Another former political reporter was the son of national mp, but was another of Nationals oooops

              Look at you , I showed a pic of a soldier at a road checkpoint from a media story, you dismissed it as a ‘ a guy in camoflage clothing’
              National party supporters already support the Nats….playing to your fans greatest hits proves nothing.

            • Corky

               /  19th August 2020

              ”Look at you , I showed a pic of a soldier at a road checkpoint from a media story, you dismissed it as a ‘ a guy in camouflage clothing’

              Spinning again, Duker. Or should I say…lying! Yes, I did say that because I had not heard or seen anything about the army being involved. I thought it was a publicity shot because the driver was also wearing camouflage, and the soldier had no insignia identifying himself.

              THIS IS WHAT SAID:

              ”That’s the army? That’s a guy in camflouage clothing. All I have seen on TV is Police Officers. However, I may be wrong. I don’t know.”

          • Jack

             /  18th August 2020

            OK Dups: If I was in Jacinda’s position being as clueless as her about running the government (as I am), and being the nation’s darling (which I would hate, but nobody would guess) I would insist that the testing on the border be done and head there personally to hold hands and get tested alongside others. I would then pose by one of the ‘be kind’ signs, then I’d head back to my office to puke. Then I would call the officials to make sure the directives were 100% complied with. Then I would privately congratulate my Minister of Heath on a job well done and send him a picture of my smile for his ongoing encouragement (’cause that’s the sort of politics which props up more than a few Kiwis now days). Finally, since this is a Covid election, I would spend all my time reading the people’s wishes, and visiting them, regarding a way forward (to live with virus and no more lock-downs vs continue fighting via lock-downs). Then a week before election day I would announce my party’s intentions re the plan if/when the border scheme gets breached – which it wouldn’t because my team are doing their job (according to all our expectations.)
            After winning the election I would continue to ensure the border and quarantine
            work runs perfectly (I’d fire ministers if they failed) – and devote all my time to learning of the people’s wishes re Covid. After all, the most important thing is people. It’s a Covid World and the people need to daily see a face they trust.
            I could do all that by play acting and successfully keep Covid out if it’s the border thing Kiwis want to run with. Jacinda hasn’t manage that, yet she doesn’t have to spend her energy on pretense.
            What on earth does she do? Whom is being kind to who?
            Kitty, I don’t know my ‘whom’s’ and ‘who’s’. Help? Are we friends yet?

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    • Duker

       /  18th August 2020

      Not really , the hotel maintenance worker covid strain isnt connected to the large cluster we have now…so hes been picked up as positive as you would expect
      Symptoms 11 Aug ..test 16 Aug
      They wouldnt be testing maintenance workers every day
      the hotels arent designed to be quarantine facilities.

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      • Corky

         /  18th August 2020

        Er, it’s a montage. There’s something for everyone.

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        • Duker

           /  18th August 2020

          So shatter your worldview was just hot air

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          • Corky

             /  18th August 2020

            It’s mostly ngative for you..and your spin.

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            • No one expects these workers to be tested daily, but it would be nice if they were offered some protection between tests.

              Why dupe is spitefully singling me out for abuse when many others say and have been saying the same thing – that testing and quarantine are better than waiting until C19 is here before doing this, and that the failure to test border staff for months after the announcement was made and then blame the workers for being reluctant is a mystery. But the spiteful have their own way of thinking.

              The workers have been asking and asking for tests. But they were not given them, with predictable results.

              Not only that, but the inexcusable botchups have been ignored or concealed.

            • Duker

               /  18th August 2020

              More hot air from you..so a hotel worker was tested and was positive…as the testing was designed to discover….phhhtttt

        • One has been. The vast majority of people working at the border and in quarantine have not been tested.

          This one worker’s test does not negate the fact that the border workers have been neglected despite being promised tests and asking for these. Do you not watch the news? The airport and other workers have NOT had tests and were NOT reluctant to have them as the PM meanly stated.

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          • The hotel worker was tested after he showed the symptoms.

            Only now have the other workers at Rydges been tested.

            Do try to keep up.

            More than 60% of the border workers have NOT been tested.

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  18th August 2020

    Folks National Magic radio fresh from being climate deniers, they are now face mask deniers,as its a free speech issue, Williams and Plunkett along with David Seymour are face mask deniers….the right are losing it..

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    • Corky

       /  18th August 2020

      The RIGHT have nothing to lose…but guess who has?

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      • David Seymour is not a mask denier in any sense of the word.

        He had nothing but praise for the private donors who made millions of masks and other protection available to health workers when the CoL were dragging their feet.

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    • Pink David

       /  19th August 2020

      ” face mask deniers”

      You mean like Jenny Harnes, the UK’s deputy chief medical officer. Is she a ‘mask denier’?

      “Members of the public could be putting themselves more at risk from contracting coronavirus by wearing face masks, one of England’s most senior doctors has warned.

      Jenny Harries, deputy chief medical officer, said the masks could “actually trap the virus” and cause the person wearing it to breathe it in.

      “For the average member of the public walking down a street, it is not a good idea” to wear a face mask in the hope of preventing infection, she added.”

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-face-masks-increase-risk-infection-doctor-jenny-harries-a9396811.html

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      • Griff.

         /  19th August 2020

        The reason to wear a mask is not to protect you.
        It is the same reason surgeons wear them to protect others from your germs.
        For some one who as commented hundreds if times in covid you are ignorant of even the basics .
        Trumpwit .

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        • Pink David

           /  19th August 2020

          “The reason to wear a mask is not to protect you.”

          Remarkable. Flu has killed many millions over the years, but all it required was a simple cloth mask. Bit of miss from the health profession don’t you think?

          Or is it just bullshit made up to placate bedwetters like you?

          “It is the same reason surgeons wear them to protect others from your germs.”

          Well, the evidence is they don’t do this at all, and ‘germs’ are far larger particles than viruses. The primitive thinking is…primitive

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        • Pink David

           /  19th August 2020

          People in Peru have been wearing masks since March. Along with one of the strictest lockdowns in the world.

          Why are tens of thousands dying in Peru?

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          • Alan Foster

             /  19th August 2020

            This has been explained to you before but hasn’t sunk in. It’s because they ALL don’t follow the lock down / wearing masks recommendations. Same as in California. I don’t want to hear anymore re this subject from you.

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            • Pink David

               /  19th August 2020

              You can cry as much you want. Cover your eye’s and put your fingers in your ears. None of that will change the truth.

              ‘They didn’t do it right’ is the lamest, and most dishonest argument in the book.

              Your fear is destroying lives. Millions of them.

            • Alan Foster

               /  19th August 2020

              Didn’t know that I could destroy millions of lives. I said that I didn’t want to hear any more from you – do you not understand English?

            • Pink David

               /  19th August 2020

              Argentina.

              Lockdown 14th March.
              Masks 14th April

            • Pink David

               /  19th August 2020

              “Didn’t know that I could destroy millions of lives. I said that I didn’t want to hear any more from you – do you not understand English?”

              You have actively cheered on the policies that are resulting in this. All out of your own fear.

              I’m reminding you of this.

              And, again, your fear does not dictate what I do, as much as you might like it to, you also are not able to tell me when I can or cannot post. The arrogance of this is astounding, but expected perhaps from a bed wetter.

        • Pink David

           /  19th August 2020

          This is the future for Griff’s grandkids. All for Griffs protection of course.

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  10. Duker

     /  18th August 2020

    Another story from the 9 YEARS of NEGLECT file

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300085190/documents-show-ministry-blunders-on-wellingtons-carillon-tower

    We have seem similar results for saving costs over the 9 years of neglect that ended up vastly more expensive with Customs computer systems, Statistics Online Only Census, Immigration all over the place changes- offshore hubbing to save money, then centralised hubs to save money and now bringing it back in country as the cheap versions didnt work at all.

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    • The 9 years of neglect is a tired cliche that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

      But a blunder over a carillon is hardly on the same scale as a failure to notice that the promised tests of border workers hadn’t happened, that the majority had not been tested or offered tests and that this has plunged Auckland into lockdown, will cost jobs and possibly lives and have an effect that will last for many years.

      Did the Ministers and PM not think to ask how many tests had been done, if any?

      Reply
      • Duker

         /  18th August 2020

        9 years of blunders didn’t make much difference
        The miners at Pike Creek didnt have any oversight from mines inpectors either…saving money again.
        National didn’t have good programs they ran well…it’s the way of government now.
        For example police numbers frozen , budget frozen, road safety enforcement cut…thus road toll rose dramatically at end of 9 years of neglect.
        Homeless rose..neglect
        And so on

        Reply
        • The number who need emergency houses has more than doubled under Labour. 6000 under National to 14,000 under Labour.

          The road toll fell steadily under National and began to rise again in 2017 when Labour was back in.

          Reply
          • Duker

             /  19th August 2020

            Road toll rose from 2014 ..more of your falsehoods…anybody would thinking you were into telling them
            They were consistently falling up to the low point of 2011-14 ( should have kept falling) and then started rising to high point 2017 and now down dip is back in 2019 ( 2020 will be affected by Covid)
            No surprise the Police werent replacing traffic cops and were well over 100 short and of course Bridges raided the traffic road safety budget for his roads ( Police road safety budget is funded by Ministry of Transport)
            https://www.transport.govt.nz/mot-resources/road-safety-resources/road-deaths/annual-number-of-road-deaths-historical-information/

            Reply
            • National was in at the times you quoted (2011-14 -)

              Please do not call me a liar. It’s offensive and untrue.

              The stats that you quote yourself prove that the road toll declined when National was in. Are the MoT also liars ? Or is it only a lie when I quote them.

              I repeat; stop calling me a liar.

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