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  1. David

     /  19th August 2020

    It staggers me that Bloomfield is believed on anything by this government, he seems quite comfortable as pointed out in the Stuff piece to go on and on about great efforts being undertaken but fails frequently to actually deliver what is asked. That the government seems to have zero oversight of him doesnt surprise me given its a “kind” government and filled with people who no doubt have spent their lives getting participation awards.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/122486659/when-dissonance-is-a-deadly-serious-failing

    Where is the scrutiny of the air force guy and his boss the odious Megan Woods, with Woods I can understand as the woman never stops talking and who wants to confront that.

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    • We can’t blame the Commodore; as far as I know, he is overseeing the security and suitability of the quarantine places.

      We can blame Megan Woods, Chris Hipkins, Ashley Bloomfield and the PM who seem not to have thought of making sure that the promised tests were actually happening. The PM seems to have been the last person in NZ to hear about the inexcusable stuff-ups – again. She didn’t know about the youth camp debacle, the Labour Party sex scandal…

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  2. David

     /  19th August 2020

    I think its pretty obvious where the maintenance workers Covid came from and its pretty obvious why he isnt admitting anything but I bet his other half is giving him some sharp looks.

    ” The strain of his infection is the same as a woman who returned from the United States and stayed in the Rydges between July 28 to 31 before being moved to the Jetpark quarantine hotel after testing positive.

    Officials reviewed CCTV footage and swipe card records and found there was no obvious person-to-person contact, with the woman only leaving her room two or three times and the maintenance worker not entering it.”

    I would hazard a guess that the CCTV doesnt have 100% coverage. Melbournes outbreak and Sydneys seem to have similar issues.

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    • duperez

       /  19th August 2020

      Things being ‘pretty obvious’? Then hazard a guess? I’d hazard a guess that there are those on negativity benders. I think it’s pretty obvious who they are.

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    • CCTV won’t be everywhere. Most people would obect to its being in bathrooms, bedrooms and dunnies.

      The encounter could have been a casual one when he was cleaning . Who knows ?

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  19th August 2020

    Wow the AM show with Duncan Garner has Ms Collins on everyday it seems along with David Seymour.This overseas owned company seems to be in the pocket of the right and their donars

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th August 2020

      Best get the suckers out to vote asap, Lurch, before the pennies start to drop.

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    • Duker

       /  19th August 2020

      National MP Chris Penks wife works as one of the TV3 news managers
      ““Kim Choe. Digital Product Manager – Newshub at MediaWorks NZ and before that Fairfax … Managing a team of around 12 reporters covering breaking news and features for a mobile audience.”
      There would be people here screaming themselves horse if a Labour MP had a partner working as a news manager in TV1

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      • Corky

         /  19th August 2020

        ”There would be people here screaming themselves horse if a Labour MP had a partner working as a news manager in TV1.”

        Absolute rubbish. I will leave it to someone else to explain why( hint..it doesn’t matter because…).

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        • Because only a horse screams itself horse ?

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        • Duker

           /  19th August 2020

          You were the person I was thinking of Corky…. you keep mentioning Katy Bradford because …?

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          • Corky

             /  19th August 2020

            She is a biased leftwing toerag journalist(?).

            Sean related today on the nasty texts he’s receiving from what I would assume are Lefties.

            1- Hope you get cancer and die you@%$$$!
            2- Hope your kids die.
            3-You @#$ bastard.

            Yep, reeks of the Left. I despise the Left, but no way would I wish that on any Lefty. It just shows the hate our Lefty friends have . Ryan Bridges gets the same treatment.

            Sean has been accosted twice is public by young nasty Lefty women. However, most people he meets are are on his side.

            I heard a new nick name for Jacinda today. Those horrid nasty RIGHTIES are calling he Jacspinder. Wow..how bad is that?

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            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              Plunkett has been on the giving end of online baiting .

              “When contacted by Newshub, Mr Plunket originally claimed no knowledge of the tweets. Later in the night, he clarified that he did not know which tweets we were referring to as he “hadn’t tweeted [tonight]”.

              “I’ve deleted my Twitter,” he said when first contacted and asked about the tweets.

              However when the tweets were read out to him, he eventually acknowledged responsibility – but said he sent the messages to prove a point.

              baiting people online is his specialty

            • Corky

               /  19th August 2020

              It’s called self defence.

    • Corky

       /  19th August 2020

      Talkback is calling for accountability, while Lefty trolls bombard the airwaves. Kerre had three in sucession. The Left have got rid of the young nasal whiners. This new lot are elderly. However, they speak in a monotone with limited vocabulary and talk such nonsense even Kerre told one to fugg off( ZB 9:38AM). That troll said ”he was at the border when a National Party supporter refused a Covid test to support National and make Labour look bad( words to that affect).

      I kid you not.

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      • Given the amount of pro-PM and Bloomfield coverage that we had, Kim Choe’s marriage seems not to have any effect on what’s broadcast.

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        • Duker

           /  19th August 2020

          Thats what most reporters do “report on events” the spotlight switched to national when they had news and events to report…. trouble was it wasnt putting them in a good light.
          Then there was the ways the Old Business Round table did its influencing…. paying people to write friendly storys on the quiet….a breach of accountability especially as the newpaper knew about it….the Editor went on to be Dons Brashs closest adviser

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          • Do you have any evidence of that ?

            How do you know that this happened ?

            It’s a serious allegation to make.

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            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              Covered extensively before here..
              there were ‘leaked emails’ covered by Investigate magazine
              https://yournz.org/2020/07/29/open-forum-wednesday-253/#comment-436586

              That guy who was in charge of the BRT talks about topup payments from the what the paper paid and ex gratia payments for those columns who didnt get paid by newspaper . One of the recipients , was a woman writer who went onto be an ACT Mp.

              https://investigatemagazine.co.nz/14193/deborah-coddington-pinged/

              Its one thing to identify the writer as ‘working for the BRT’ but these situations it wasnt.

            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              “Not only do the papers obtained by Investigate show Coddington failed to reveal a conflict of interest regarding her authorship of the book Turning Pain Into Gain, but that she looked forward to continuing her close relationship with the Business Roundtable while supplying “business/economy articles” to North & South and other news media as well.

              Coddington decided to hide from the public the fact that she was secretly drawing a salary from the Business Roundtable because she worried that readers would doubt her journalistic credibility if they knew.”

              Drawing a salary, seems like a working relationship to me
              A source for the original documents was given as a link in the investigate story

              Click to access jun23to37.pdf

    • Corky

       /  19th August 2020

      Of course she did. But can she save the economy? If she can’t that will indirectly cost lives.
      Let’s hope people wake up before the elcetion.I have my doubts. It will be down to the swing voters to remove this bunch of merry socialists from office.

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      • The number of deaths at any given time is never exactly the same.

        We are all going to die some time; if not now, then later.

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        • Blazer

           /  19th August 2020

          You must have looked that up

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          • No. Is it likely that the number of deaths will be identical every day ?

            Did you not realise that everyone dies and that the PM can’t prevent this ? Surely even her fawning sycophants don’t think that she can.

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            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              Varies every day …pleeeese . It was comparing the 1st 6 months this year with the last 2 or 3 years.
              Many lives were saved because they didnt have their elective operations

            • That is absurd. Why would anyone decide to have an operation that was going to kill them ?

            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              Don’t be silly, they and doctor don’t know that in advance.
              I was surprised it was so high, but then there’s 1000s of elective operations every week.
              I see in news today the lives saved for a longer period this year is even higher than 550 or so , maye over 800 lives saved…aren’t you wildy happy at the news? Brighten your miserable day..weatherwise

            • Duker

               /  19th August 2020

              The story says 1200 less deaths so far this year, even better than the older story I was looking at from a while back

  4. Noel

     /  19th August 2020

    This fixation with origin is enlightening.

    During the first coronavirus wave in New Zealand, six of the 16 “significant” clusters did not have a known origin.

    Why is so important now? Oh yeah that.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  19th August 2020

    Australia 17 deaths per million and climbing
    NZ 4 deaths per million and the right are baying for blood on National Magic talkback lead by sean plunkett

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  19th August 2020

    Supreme Court finds lockdown orders illegal for nine days, then decides the Bill of Rights doesn’t matter in an emergency.

    About what you would expect from a Labour appointed court.

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    • At least we know now that it was illegal or unlawful and can’t be done in that way again. (ever hopeful)

      Owt’s better than nowt.

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    • Duker

       /  19th August 2020

      Not Supreme Court…it was High Court only
      Anyway most of Supreme Court appointed by national

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  7. Corky

     /  19th August 2020

    What…800 extra grunts for the front line. You reading this, Duker?

    Question: Why has this gummint taken this long to add extra staff to the front line?

    Answer: Because they have no clue what they are doing?

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    • Well, apart from the fact that we don’t call soldiers grunts in NZ…the answer is probably Yes.

      NZ owes Michael Morrah a huge debt for uncovering the incompetence.

      Don’t faint, that was my uptick.

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    • Duker

       /  19th August 2020

      They have them at isolation hotels and border already…
      Military have to have accomodation etc so that may have been issue until now
      Very few based in Auckland or even Waioru these days…mostly further south

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