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David
/ 28th August 2020So you have to wear a mask on a bus but not on a ferry, yes on a plane but not in a taxi and the health minister thinks masks dont make any difference.
“But Hipkins said they weren’t yet requiring masks in churches because they hadn’t seen any advice that it would “help hugely”.
“As long as people are in spaces where they’re coming into contact with known other contacts, then the masks aren’t necessarily going to provide an additional layer of protection.”
Alan Wilkinson
/ 28th August 2020What on earth does that last sentence mean?
artcroft
/ 28th August 2020If you don’t think about it, it makes complete sense.
David
/ 28th August 2020So you cant catch Covid from someone you know, sort of the same as the BLM protesters were thought to be immune which they largely were but then went home and killed their grandparents and fat Uncles.
Either you need masks or you dont and the health minister should do science not politics on this one.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020Its hard to preach…wearing..a mask.
Gerrit
/ 28th August 2020Hipkins, despite early promise, is showing all the signs of being as bereft of ministerial nous as all the other government ministers.
He also has the same idiosyncrasy as Robertson when not wanting to answer a question, He starts his non answer with “ah look”.
Count the number of “ah look” in his interview with HDPA on ZB. Could become a great drinking game.
David
/ 28th August 2020He is somewhat protected as he genuinely seems like a nice guy but his real power is in that he looks like a weedy ginger and it would look mean to smack him around.
His education reforms are looking pretty ropey and the health portfolio is slipping out of control, look at Canterbury health board as well as testing, because its ridiculous to have one person doing both ministerial jobs in an effective way.
Megan Woods turned out to be nothing more than a blowhard who did so much talking she never bothered listening so she was little help and Ardern has absolutely no confidence in 92.7% of her caucus. The air force guy has turned out to be rubbish too.
Gerrit
/ 28th August 2020If I were a woke inclined person, I would be offended by your micro aggression in your “weedy ginger” labeling and demand you offer a full apologe and enter a re education program to blot out racism againt ginger coloured people.
GLM (Ginger Lives Matter)
😉
duperez
/ 28th August 2020What do you mean, “The Air force guy has turned out to be rubbish too”?
David
/ 28th August 2020Less than 35% of border workers were being tested, cant find how the maintenance guy caught the bug from the American woman, numerous breaches including some degenerate able to come along and hug an inmate, day 13 people able to mix with day 3 people.
And by all accounts this outbreak we have came from somewhere and a high probability it was from one of his facilities.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020‘that he looks like a weedy ginger’
I guess Brownlee looks like a jolly,fat.jowley …uncle then.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020…’so what I can …say…..” (YOU KNOW …THE REST)
Kitty Catkin
/ 28th August 2020The Air Force man is not responsible for testing, so it’s absurd to blame him for the CoL’s abysmal failure in that area.
lurcher1948
/ 28th August 2020Good to see our justice system upholding traditional values. That lady who left isolation to attend a tangi has been sent to prison, and the business owner from Queenstown who left isolation to buy booze has been given community service. The system works. Ms Collins will be stoked
Corky
/ 28th August 2020The system is working fine, Lurchy. Apartheid..what apartheid?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/122566097/familys-treatment-significantly-different-to-iwis-during-200m-mt-messenger-bypass-process-court-hears
Patzcuaro
/ 28th August 2020If you look at everything through a microscope you will miss the big picture.
Corky
/ 28th August 2020Correct. That’s what I was trying to point out to Lurchy.
Corky
/ 28th August 2020The big picture for Lurchy was lack of racial equality.
The big picture for me was lack of racial equality.
The big picture for you is ignoring all those paint cracks in the big picture.
Patzcuaro
/ 28th August 2020The paint cracks in an old master piece are part of its charm.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 28th August 2020That’s how “Be Kind” works, Lurch. It shoots its owners in the back of the head eventually having taken no prisoners along the way. Ask Ellen.
Patzcuaro
/ 28th August 2020A light hearted look at the US campaign via CNN ad campaign.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020embracing Japan’s Modern Monetary Theory…
‘Since the country’s boom ended in the early 1990s, Japan has borrowed deeply. Currently, its debt level is approaching 250 percent of its annual economic output. Critics say it is an economic basket case.’
Alan Foster
/ 28th August 2020Is the USA the most racist country in the world?
When Biden picked Kamala Harris to be his running mate, the Media described her as “A Black Asian American”
Technically, you could call her “A Brown Indian, African (Jamaican) American”
If Biden had picked Hillary as a running mate, would the Media call her “A White European American’? I don’t think so.
Imagine if in NZ we called
Maori – Brown NZers
Polynesians – Brown Pacific NZers
Indians – Black Indian NZers
Africans – Black African NZers
Europeans – White European NZers
Quite rightly, there would be a huge outcry.
USA, not a place I would like to be at the moment
Corky
/ 28th August 2020”If Biden had picked Hillary as a running mate, would the Media call her “A White European American’? I don’t think so.”
No, they would just call her crooked like her husband. Maybe, given white is the predominately main racial group in America, being ethnically different is a point of difference… and is without any racial overtones.
This morning I was talking to someone who said his new boss was a young Pakeha fulla.
The point of difference being this was an all Maori gang who had always had a Maori boss , and now for the first time had a boss from a different culture. It was just a factual observation.
The art when such differences are noted is to sense the context and intent. Maori excel in that skill.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 28th August 2020My delineation is simpler: dickheads vs others.
The Left always overthink.
Duker
/ 28th August 2020Those ‘colours’ are official racial categories in US thats why they use them
White american
Black ( or African) American
then there is
Native american
Native Hawaiian ( or other other polynesian)
Asian american
Hispanic is often used but isnt a race but an ethnicity and you can be white hispanic or black hispanic
We clearly dont use the old fashioned ‘skin colour’ In NZ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020“Is the USA the most racist country in the world?”
No.
“When Biden picked Kamala Harris to be his running mate, the Media described her as “A Black Asian American””
This is because the Democratic Party has selected her on the basis of her race and sex. It’s the Democratic Party that is racist.
Patzcuaro
/ 28th August 2020So what do you call the white supremacist party, aka the Republican Party?
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020It’s you who thinks that white people are superior. You espouse this in almost everything you post.
Republicans simply don’t care about people’s race.
Duker
/ 28th August 2020Race never matters …yep
How come Trump mentions ‘first ever African american’ as new head of USAF
Another Fact free day for you
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020Cool. A white supremacist would not appoint an African American to that role now would he.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020Ever seen Carson in action….talk about ‘Uncle Tom’!
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020And along comes Blazer, with a beautiful example of his own racism.
Slow hand clap to the bigotry of Blazer.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020Wheres the racism…?
Whats the definition of a ‘white supremacist?
Duker
/ 28th August 2020No no no…you were saying the Republicans don’t mention ‘colour’…
And I showed you to be the complete fool you are
W
How do you look at your self in the mirror without cringing
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020This is the Democratic Party.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020“Is the USA the most racist country in the world?”
This also might help you answer your question.
“Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant. People in the survey were most likely to embrace a racially diverse neighbor in the United Kingdom and its Anglo former colonies (the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) and in Latin America.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/
Kitty Catkin
/ 28th August 2020In the 60s, a Conservative MP in England had the slogan ‘If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour.’
He won the seat (Smethurst ?)
Kitty Catkin
/ 28th August 2020Smethwick.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020nothing much has changed for the Conservative faction.
Kitty Catkin
/ 28th August 2020Oh really ? 10% of UK MPs are non-white now.
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020Conservative M.P’s?
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020Lockdowns are a global disaster.
Slowly, people are waking up.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/27/europe-last-waking-lockdown-folly/
Alan Wilkinson
/ 28th August 2020The US virus death toll is 0.06% of the population, say 5% of the normal annual deaths.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020Peru.
The worlds earliest and toughest lockdown. Opps!
https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/the-worlds-toughest-lockdown-has
Alan Foster
/ 28th August 2020Here’s why it failed – All lockdowns are not the same eh?
From your link
“Tragically, the lockdowns will result in even more excess suffering for a nation that does not have the fiscal or medical capacity to handle its side effects. Unlike much of Western Europe and the United States, Peru is much poorer per capita and does not have quality healthcare available to all of its citizens. Most country healthcare rankings systems place Peru firmly in the bottom half of nations when it comes to both capacity and standards. This reality has undoubtedly contributed negatives to Peru’s epidemic.
Here in the United States, we have the benefit of a robust economic engine and sophisticated healthcare system that will help us recover from the lockdown madness. Peru does not have the same luxury, and their COVID-19 data continues to show the tragic consequences of implementing self-destructive shutdown policies.”
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020Did the fact that Peru is a poor country with limited health care facilities come as a surprise to everyone?
When the decision to enforce a highly restrictive lockdown on one of the poorest countries on earth, did it occur to anyone to think about this?
NZ is rich enough for people to stay at home for a while without people starving. That is not true in Peru.
I really do wonder who thought it was a good idea.
Alan Foster
/ 28th August 2020Lockdowns have saved lives in other countries. As I said, all lockdowns are not the same – depends on the country & the how the people conform to it.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020“Lockdowns have saved lives in other countries.”
Show your data. I assume you have evidence for this?
Pete George
/ 28th August 2020I think it’s fairly obvious that lockdowns have saved lives in Queensland, NT and WA in particular, but also in NSW and Victoria which would have been much worse without belated lockdowns.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020Well, that;’s curious. Victoria had the strictest lockdown in Australia, and now the most death. WA the loosest. Where is your control in this judgement?
Why do you think it would be much worse in Victoria and NSW without lockdowns?
Covid has had very little impact in Asia generally, one of the most interesting things about it. This is despite very different approaches.
Nor Africa, and even the Middle East.
Europe/US/South America most affected. Even then, wildly different outcomes depending on region far more than approach.
Nothing about Covid is obvious at all.
Kitty Catkin
/ 28th August 2020How can anyone know that ? It’s unprovable either way. One can’t say ‘what would have happened.’
Duker
/ 28th August 2020Easy. Compare Sweden to it’s neighbours Denmark and Norway and you tell me the differentvactions produced the same outcome.
Or Victoria who dithered fir 3 weeks with the second outbreak compared to NZ who acted in 3 days
Pete George
/ 28th August 2020The ” first detailed disclosure of the case against” 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse, accused of two murders in Kenosha, Wisconsin, which “draws on multiple cell phone videos and witness accounts”.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-usa-rittenhouse-idUSKBN25N382?taid=5f486e8eeeb1e900012d2ca6
Pete George
/ 28th August 2020Social media saw repeated calls for armed vigilantes in Wisconsin in hours before protestors killed
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/social-media-saw-repeated-calls-armed-vigilantes-in-wisconsin-hours-before-protestors-killed
Violence and arson and looting are bad enough under the guise of protest, but armed vigilantes are a bad idea.
Corky
/ 28th August 2020”Violence and arson and looting are bad enough under the guise of protest, but armed vigilantes are a bad idea.”
What’s your suggestion in that given situation? The police? I have written repeatedly about this type of situation. As Covid bites deeper, such occurrences will become common place. People coming from a supermarket for example, will be gunned down. At least in most cases it will be quick. You can imagine what it will be like in NZ..knives and homemade weapons. That’s a horrible slow way to die.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020The backdrop is interesting.
Corky
/ 28th August 2020Or the fact he didn’t stop for the police. If cop was pointing a gun at me, I would STFU and put my hands up.
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020What was ishmael’s favorite word, oh yeah, Gaslighting.
He was unarmed (if you exclude the arms).
Duker
/ 28th August 2020After being wrong in everything about Rittenhouse you are going a bit further back now ?
Pink David
/ 28th August 2020It must be quite a burden to be right about everything, but not succeeding in life.
How did your career go? Every night returning home complaining to your wife about how everyone is wrong and you are always right, but nothing every pans out for you?
Go on, show us how right you are about this one. Explain the ‘otherwise unarmed’ framing. What’s it’s purpose? How should police have handled the situation?
Fight4nz
/ 28th August 2020I think if they shot him in the back 8 times because there was a knife in his car then everything would have been ok.
Duker
/ 28th August 2020Rittenhouse…..
Blazer
/ 28th August 2020you pay big money for ‘talent’….but this absolutely flummoxes them…
Instead of the correct email address, an “i” was substituted with an “l”, to read “clrcle”, instead of “circle”.
Duker
/ 28th August 2020The bank account change was the key…..anyone who ok that without a phone call should lose their job, as these sort of scams are common place for years
Alan Wilkinson
/ 28th August 2020Have we reached peak drivelling idiocy yet?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12360410
Fight4nz
/ 28th August 2020Are you so old that you still can’t keep up with nor cope with the minor increments in the evolution of language?
Alan Wilkinson
/ 29th August 2020You mean Orwellian attempts to eliminate history?