Collins ‘can’t control husband’ but he’s very unhelpful

Judith Collins has said she can’t control what her husband does, which should be correct, but recent David Wong-Tung’s social media activities are very unhelpful for Collins’ election aspirations.

Wong -Tung has been repeated petty attack drivel that is prevalent amongst a bunch of numpties. Here’s one from Saturday:

It goes on at length.

There’s more:

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And another:

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Stuff: Judith Collins says she can’t control husband after series of anti-Jacinda Ardern Facebook posts

National’s Judith Collins has defended her husband, David Wong-Tung, after he reposted a series of off-colour Facebook posts mocking Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

One shows a green-tinged Ardern with the caption “the incredible sulk,” a play on the comic book character the Incredible Hulk.

Another depicts Ardern as a milkmaid with a caption saying, “Cindy is milking the WuFlu for all it’s worth now”, alleging Ardern is “milking” Covid-19 for political purposes.

Collins said the posts were not something she would do herself.

“We have been together for 41 years; I have never been able to get him to do anything I tell him to do,” she said.

“It is not something I would do but he is an adult, he makes his own decisions; I think he gets sick of people having a go at him and me.”

“He is one of the least sexist men I know, he is married to me, how could he be sexist?” Collins said.

“He is an adult, he will make his own decisions and let’s put it this way, I don’t have to answer for him because I have not been able to control him in 41 years.

“If you have got the secret to how you control a man who is 64 years old, used to play a lot of rugby and was a policeman, good luck and let me know”.

Sure, spouses and partners of politicians should be free to do whatever they like, but they must be aware that what they do can impact on their politician partners.

And Wong-Tung is damaging Collins’ chances in next month’s election, and also the National Party’s chances. Both are struggling for traction, and this sort of online nonsense won’t help.

The dirt mongering done by ‘National Party’s Meme Working Group’ is unhelpful enough as it is for Collins and National, and Wong-Tung is just amplifying this nasty politics approach to campaigning.

Most of the memes were first posted on the National Party’s Meme Working Group Facebook page and later shared by Wong-Tung. That page is not officially associated with the National Party but shares National aligned jokes. One was watermarked by BFD, the successor site to Cameron Slater’s blog Whale Oil.

Slater suddenly switched from promoting Winston Peters and NZ First to promoting Collins when she took over the leadership of the National Party. He is fringe, still seems to think dirty politics is some sort of badge of honour, and was always going to be a risk top Collins.

While there’s no sign that Collins still associates with Slater on political matters their past associations mean that any involvement he has in promoting her or National remind people of his past associations with Collins.

National’s slump in the polls after their two changes of leader this year and their struggle to get attention during the pandemic was always going to make this election difficult for them.

The Meme Working Group, Slater and Wong-Tung may well be out of Collin’s control, but they are embarrassing and damaging.

They keep the most likely question to the fore – how little support will National get this election.

(NOTE: comments making claims of links between people and countries and parties that are questionable or aren’t substantiated may be deleted. There is plenty in this to criticise Collins and National on without making shit up.)

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  1. John J Harrison

     /  1st September 2020

    Pete, this is so tame compared to the crap posted by the Looney Left.
    Remember when one of their ilk thought it was a great idea to rape John Key’s daughter and spread it around the net.
    The fact is that in the instances you have highlighted there is an element of truth.
    Like it or not.
    None do hate better than the sad cases on The Daily Blog or The Standard.
    Many, for all we know could be MP’s partners, just as they could be on this blog.

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  2. duperez

     /  1st September 2020

    If Ardern’s partner had posted stuff like this attacking Collins the reaction would have been calm and measured of course.

    The funniest thing will be to ponder those who do daily hate and mindlessness who’ll inevitably defend and excuse Wong-Tung saying that it’s the other side that does hate and mindlessness.

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  3. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  1st September 2020

    So how have the left responded?

    With racist filth…

    “Imagine this ape standing next to her at important government functions. What an embarrassment he would be to our country,” the comment said.

    Another comment the meme page took a screenshot of said: “If your wife is so low-class that she’ll marry a shit-stain like you David, she’s clearly not fit to be running the country, let alone a pre-school.”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/08/judith-collins-husband-david-wong-tung-subject-of-racist-comments-after-sharing-anti-jacinda-ardern-social-media-posts.html

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    • Yes, that’s bad, but unfortunately not unusual in social media from both sides of the political divide.

      But it doesn’t make things any easier for Collins. Wong-Tung should have been aware of what may happen if he promotes stupid stuff in social media.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  1st September 2020

      Mr Wong-Tung isn’t the sharpest knife in the draw if he attacks the PM just saying, every action has an equal reaction when you have lost your job due to the [deleted] and then [deleted] abuses the PM…there will be reactions

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      • John J Harrison

         /  1st September 2020

        Lurcher, once again you miss the point.
        It is not just Judith’s husband sending this FACTUAL meme around but literally 100’ thousands.
        Kindly explain what is not factually correct in the comments regarding Ardern.

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        • Pickled Possum

           /  1st September 2020

          #John
          Jacinda doesnt have a pinocchio nose. Also she isnt Green
          That is FACTUAL …
          There are some people that are just spreading lies and there are some people who believe without fact checking.

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          • John J Harrison

             /  1st September 2020

            Pickled [deleted – don’t attack pseudonyms – PG] like Lurcher you cannot produce any evidence that the comments made in this spoof are untrue.
            Sad !

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            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              Mr Harrison, that is mean. You don’t know PP.
              In these debates re bad manners — where on earth are our politicians’ forays into the gutter coming from?
              You could have left out that snipe and then the intelligent part of your comment would hold a kind presence.
              Repent? Hahaha, that’s the part that will bring the PDTs.

            • John J Harrison

               /  1st September 2020

              Jack, you are quiet correct.
              I apologize for the gratuitous comment to Pickled Possum.
              It would be great to get confirmation from him/her as to whether Ardern lies or not.
              BTW I totally ignore up or down ticks – they are irrelevant.

      • Jack

         /  1st September 2020

        A reaction such as Jacinda taking him to court for hurting her feelings?

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    • Gerrit

       /  1st September 2020

      Under the Little proposed “hate speech” laws. Both sides would be liable to a police visit.

      Some of the comments posted on this blog would see PG also likely to a receive a police visit

      The “Hate Law” will cut both ways.

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      • Jack

         /  1st September 2020

        Yes, with no ability to clean up anybody’s hatred.
        I often think PG is brave to run this.
        (I’m getting the word ‘cult’ in as often as I can, trying to keep ahead of Little’s and Lefty nonsense.)
        To think that NZ is coming to this. Absolutely unnecessary

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        • Gerrit

           /  1st September 2020

          Jack, be mindful that the discourse you had yesterday will be considered “hate speech”. Calling people “righteous pricks” or “teaching them a lesson”. is an example of hate speech not permitted.

          Your calling out people for belonging to a “cult” can cross that boundary as well. Especially when one self’s believe could be construed as being “cult like”.

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          • Jack

             /  1st September 2020

            Yes, lots of construing and little to no fact

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          • Jack

             /  1st September 2020

            My use of those words was in response to months/years of abuse here – provocations and defamatory remarks against me as a Christian.
            At the rate you have progressed this particular debate, it’s not a stretch of the imagination that sharing one’s views about the cross will become labelled as hate speech.

            ‘Cult’ is a word which experts admit they can not agree upon. Therefore it’s concept is open slather.

            I have redefined the word ‘cult’ and wish to see it lose its sting. Have you researched before challenging me? That is, read my books?

            Your suggestion that I might be considered a cult-like individual is great. If anything, it shows you’ve taken an interest.

            Church is the only group on earth which is cult free.

            I hope, Gerrit, that the individual who has caused me a lot of grief here has learnt a lesson. I just want to occasionally be free to share my views without being harassed.

            I have learnt that it’s sink or swim here. One has to keep on top of abusers, otherwise things really do disintegrate into a cess pool – or worse, honest loving contributors suffering in silence.

            That harasser could have ignored my initial post. She chose to engage. I chose to fight as lovingly as I have in my tank. It’s not me I was considering. It’s Church

            Since you engaged, I ask you to clearly state who I called ‘righteous pricks’ yesterday. If you think I offended by directing that to an individual, show the evidence.

            BTW, I’m not a swearer. Just sometimes I relax my standards here. When in Rome…

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            • It is you who harass and harangue, and then whine when people are driven to react.

            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              Proof?

            • Gerrit

               /  1st September 2020

              Jack,

              Was on Monday’s OpenForum

              “There’s nothing like the name of Jesus Christ to get up people’s hackles and gentle reminders about carrying your cross to get self righteous pricks going”.

              This was in the middle of a discussion with Kitty Catkin

              Not going to bite on your comments.

              Not worth my time.

            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              Gerrit. You just did bite.
              Where is the evidence I called an individual a bad name? Were you that person?

              Keep up my good work?

            • It’s not worth anyone’s time. Jack seems to think that YNZ is a forum for fundie evangelism; it isn’t.

            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              Kitty, another false accusation from you.
              Don’t like an individual belonging to Church?

            • I don’t give a stuff what you belong to; but no one belongs to ‘Church’, as this is meaningless.

          • Gerrit

             /  1st September 2020

            Jack,

            Gave you the courtesy of a reply to your question, that is not a “bite”.

            Goodbye.

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            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              Don’t like losing to one lone Christian carrying his cross, Gerrit?

            • Jack

               /  1st September 2020

              One Christian showing up an harasser or two and exposing a usually silent mean observer clumsily rustling the undergrowth.
              Persevering with the politics of individuality for the sake of Church

            • One whited sepulchre, you mean.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  1st September 2020

    The damage to National is the fact Ms Collins has [deleted[, people call it [deleted] and would be surprised her [deleted] its as if she wants Mr Wong-Tung hidden from the public as heaps of swing voters probably didnt know.her partner was him Im not being racist but [deleted] isn’t a smart move when they know of all the [deleted].

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    • Duker

       /  1st September 2020

      Apparently Mr Wong-tung wont do anything his spouse Ms Collins says.

      Yet Collins was happy to take a taxpayers funded junket to China that had many events tied to Mr Wong Tungs commercial activities….and Oravida.

      Some one is being disingenuous here and is thrilled with the ‘memes’

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  5. Patzcuaro

     /  1st September 2020

    The whole thing is very unproductive for National, Collins is going to waste time damping down this fire which temporarily takes the focus of issues Labour Is having around COVID at the border.
    David Wong-Tung has to decide whether he wants help of hinder Nationals chances at the election and then act accordingly.

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    • Jack

       /  1st September 2020

      It looks like provocations got the better of him. Hopefully he won’t transgress again

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  6. Blazer

     /  1st September 2020

    Wong-Tung is doing what comes naturally to the Nats…’Dirty’ politics….ugly on the inside,ugly on the….. outside.

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    • Alan Foster

       /  1st September 2020

      So correct – everyone should read Hager’s book “Dirty Politics”

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      • Jack

         /  1st September 2020

        Dirty politics come from the old boys club. Hager’s book is not near the full story.
        Judith is a breath of fresh air, I thought she handled Hubby’s naughtiness well. At least Judith doesn’t pretend to be everywhere adored

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  7. Slater claims credit for the BFD and thinks what Wong-Tung is doing is great: https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/09/01/as-seen-on-tv/

    He is still deaf to political damage done by stupid publicity.

    Collins won’t be able to control him either. She needs all the help she can get to challenge Labour’s strong position, but with helpers like her husband and Slater the hill will just get harder to climb.

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  8. Blazer

     /  1st September 2020

    ‘ we now know that Judith Collins’ husband is a proper bloke and not some namby-pamby wet behind the ears sooky-pants’

    We also know that Slater fits that description perfectly…his faux macho fantasies exposed long ago.

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  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  1st September 2020

    I don’t think it will have any electoral impact at all. The Lefties will scream and the rest will either chuckle or ignore it. It’s more likely to win votes than lose them.

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    • The old saying about a nine-days wonder is as true now as it was 500 (?) years ago. Nine days is about as long as these things last.

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      • Jack

         /  1st September 2020

        Then in nine days time the effect of yet another false accusation of me (you called me a ‘hypocrite’ above) will have worn off.
        If anyone called you that you would run crying to PG. And he would intervene, saying that it’s a form of abuse. He did so when I gently made a suggestion that you engage in trolling.
        I belong to Church.
        It’s very important that Kiwis carry their crosses. The only place to do that is in Church.
        This place gets quite toxic. I might be back after nine days. Reminds me of pease porridge hot, pease porridge cold, pease porridge in the pot nine days old.
        My message won’t change. After all those years, suffering under cult and dropping my cross often, it’s wonderful to carry it with consistency.
        BTW, this thread of trolling is on Gerrit.
        The cross carrier goes blame free!

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        • Don’t make claims about what I may or may not do. You don’t know what I will do.

          And I have no connection in any way with any carrying of crosses, and I suspect many Kiwis are similar.

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  1st September 2020

    The article in the DomPost stated that Mr Wong-Tung called Maoris “natives” SHOCK,HORROR…keep posting it only helps Labour

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  11. FarmerPete

     /  1st September 2020

    Really, This isn’t worth a post. It is election season and the lovies obviously think Jacinda has to be protected. This is mild stuff. Compare this to Labours character assassination of John Key and Mike Williams trip to Melbourne to dig up dirt. This is firmly in the area of free speech and fair satirical comment. You may not like it, but for heavens sake harden up.
    What is not right is linking this to Slater with out so much as a skerrick of evidence.

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    • I have read political writings from previous centuries (and seen the cartoons) that no paper would dare to publish now ! They make todays things look mild by comparison. The c.18 was really bad.

      I still have the cartoon of Mike Williams and Helen Clark digging and finding ‘nothing but a two-edged sword so far’.

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      • Duker

         /  1st September 2020

        Do you think the Clark Gayford smear recently grew all on its own ?…Just as the Peter Davis smear years before was spread amoung the right wing side of politics.

        Guess who went onto a morning shock jocks TV show to light the fire publicly under Less- Galloway as payback for a National MP ‘sexting’ to young students ?
        Labour never mentioned it and when they heard it was referred privately to [pick a name for leader]

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      • Ooops….’nothing but a boomerang and a two-edged sword so far.’

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        • Duker

           /  1st September 2020

          Yes, if was such an amazing coincidence to have some one with the same signature as JK at that company who was approving the deal

          Mr Key and another foreign exchange dealer, Maxwell Nichols, who worked for Elders 20 years ago, had extraordinarily similar signatures. Mr Nichols said in a witness statement to a Melbourne court in 1994 that the signatures were his. At least one of his colleagues gave corroborating evidence.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/vote-08/news/695248/Labour-trawls-for-Key-smear
          Anyway Helen HAD to know Key says, how lucky Judith is that She didn’t know what her husband was doing or that a Slater backed group was doing memes just like the days of dirty polictics and Jason Ede in the Beehive , that Key again never knew about either

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          • John J Harrison

             /  1st September 2020

            Duker, like Blazer you are $1 short, but in your case 3 decades late.
            Do keep up with current events.

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            • Duker

               /  1st September 2020

              Yesterdays news anyway .
              Todays news is Polls that show National below 30% and 90% of the country behind the recent lockdown , 20% of Aucklanders wanted it even LONGER.
              Judith is going to be a turkey long before Xmas

          • Blazer

             /  1st September 2020

            To be fair ,its easy to see how Maxwell Nicholls and John Key’s signatures could be similar….I mean they have the same number of letters and the christian and surnames begin with the same …letter…..don’t they!

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  12. Blazer

     /  1st September 2020

    Wong-Tung…..’hey Jude ,what can I do to help you get…elected….?
    Collins….um…leave the…country’!

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