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    • Patzcuaro

       /  18th September 2020

      The New York Post is a mouth piece for Murdoch slash cheerleader for “Team Trump”.

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      • Duker

         /  18th September 2020

        There was no war between Israel and the Gulf States for there to be a peace treaty.
        Compare with the real peace treaty arranged by Jimmy Carter between Israel and Egypt, where the text says The state of war no longer exists.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th September 2020

        Does that make the insights invalid?

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  18th September 2020

          “The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch’s ownership for sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review stated “New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem – a force for evil.”[51]”

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  19th September 2020

            That’s ridiculous tripe, Patz. Read the article and see if you have anything sensible to say about it.

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    • David

       /  18th September 2020

      The Telegraph has some positive reportage of the deal with the obvious caveat of trying not to say anything positive about Trump.
      Its quite a moment and shows that foreign policy experts have been wrong for 30 plus years and it took two NY property developers to see where the deal was which was ignore the intransigent Palestinians who have responded in typical fashion by launching rockets into Israel and burning in effigy the leaders of Bahrain and the UAE.
      Its fun watching the experts who predicted the middle east would be on fire after the Solamani assassination, predicted the same thing when the US embassy was moved to Jerusalem, predicted that the sheer presence of Trump would cause countless conflicts and here we are with less wars, no ISIS any more and peace deals between Sunni Arabs and the Jewish state run by no less than Bibi.
      Oh and lets not forget the peace deal Trump oversaw between Kosovo and Serbia and getting NATO onto a sounder footing and no more rockets from Mr Kim for quite a while.

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      • David

         /  18th September 2020

        We should give a hat tip to Obama and Biden for starting this off, if the hadnt given 150 billion to Iran which then used it to fund terrorism across the region then the other Arab states wouldnt have come together against the real problem in the area, Iran, not Israel who just wants to live in peace.

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        • Duker

           /  18th September 2020

          Laughably false.
          Israel hasnt wanted to live in peace ever since they decided the boundaries werent enough when Palestine was divided by a jacked up UN vote in the 40s.
          Even before Israel was created jewish terrorism was rife in Palestine, even extending into Arab countries in the 1950s, including blowing up libraries and movie theatres in Egypt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
          The Jewish terrorist groups invented the barrel bomb for rolling into Arab markets to accelerate ethnic cleansing and the leaders of Irgun and Stern became leaders Israeli government in later years.

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        • Tom Hunter

           /  18th September 2020

          A Blast from the past with a man so stupid he made Hillary Clinton look good as a Secretary of State..

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        • Tom Hunter

           /  18th September 2020

          Something, something…. no peace between Israel and the Gulf states…. something, something…. Palestinians central to peace…. something, something..

          Gawd. No wonder Abbas and the Iranians took this plonker for a ride.

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      • Corky

         /  18th September 2020

        ”Intransigent Palestinians who have responded in typical fashion by launching rockets into Israel and burning in effigy the leaders of Bahrain and the UAE.”

        Too true. I wish Israel would deal with the Palestinian problem once and for all. I guess they have gone soft. Even Palastines so called friends find them a problem. Palestinian hatred is so deep, options for controlling them basically boil down to one solution in my opinion.

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    • Corky

       /  18th September 2020

      Trumps legacy is still to be appreciated.

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      • Jack

         /  18th September 2020

        Have thought all along he’s grown willing to carry his cross😇

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        • Corky

           /  18th September 2020

          No, I have no interest in religion. Neither has Trumpy.

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          • Jack

             /  18th September 2020

            That was a joke Corky. Why a need to respond?
            Trump is a baby Christian. No link sorry, but my comments trump yours.
            (Read somewhere a while back that Trump made a choice to be a Christian)

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  18th September 2020

            Trumps only interest in religion is how many votes he can get by pandering to the Christian right

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      • How odd that Jack thinks that Christianity is something to laugh at.

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        • Jack

           /  18th September 2020

          A teaching point.
          I did reject the cult of Christianity early this year.
          ‘Christianity’ is a word from man and many Christians, seekers and even unbelievers are on its cult slide.
          Words and meanings evolve. The name ‘Christian’ will endure to the end, encompassing and uniting men of every political persuasion.
          A Christian belongs in Church (a member of the body of Christ.)

          Before my comments above I was not laughing at Christianity, but I am now.
          It’s also getting easier to say I belong to THE Church

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            • Jack

               /  18th September 2020

              Next teaching point (learnt from AW – never let these things pass otherwise the group will miss out on benefits) –

              [Deleted. Don’t try to lecture anyone here or tell them what you think they should be doing. PG]

              [Deleted. There are a wide variety of Christians who are capable of making up their own minds how they should practice their beliefs, and how they should present or not present those beliefs in public. PG] They are a treasure. My joke could have enjoyed a sole Jack spot today. Surely the group is tired of me trying to explain how easy it is to be a Christian.

              A joke explained is a funny destroyed. Cult leaders and their followers are destroyers

            • MOD.

              How dare you tell me that I am in a cult ? Or presume to know what my beliefs are ? It’s none of your damned business.

              Your attitude is highly offensive as well as self-righteous.

            • Jack

               /  18th September 2020

              I’m sure we all would appreciate the mod refraining from stating who is or isn’t a Christian.

              I thought you’d probably favour the harasser.

              ‘Cult slide’ is a different concept to ‘cult’. No one should be told outright they belong to a cult. Each to their own.

            • Are you referring to me with “I thought you’d probably favour the harasser”?

              My open aim is to reduce harassment here, and that includes your harassment.

            • Jack

               /  18th September 2020

              Pete,
              Again, thank you for your welcome many months ago to give my voice a try here.

              I think it might be time to seek clarity. You just accused me of being an harasser.

              My comment in response to Kitty’s ongoing abuse was regarding the cross. In doing so I apparently pushed this issue up to the line. Do you want me here, or would you rather I stop contributing?

              A day or so ago Maureen suggested that I am demon possessed.

  1. David

     /  18th September 2020

    There must be some interesting polling in the US. Biden has popped out of his bunker and headed very briefly to Florida and made a tragic attempt at shoring up the Hispanic vote which is deserting to Trump.
    Pelosi has finally condemned the rioting in Democrat cities albeit without mentioning Antifa and BLM but it shows there are some very nervous congress people in tight races.
    The California exodus is accelerating with Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire now de camping to Nashville and Joe Rogan daily condemnation of California leadership and how much he loves Texas.
    If the Republicans could find a leader that is not Mitch McConnell they could transform the electoral landscape in a John Key/Tony Blair type way.

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2020

      ” Biden has popped out of his bunker and headed very briefly to Florida ”

      Not so from schedule last week into this
      Thu Kenosha Wisconsin ( important state), where the rioting and killing by a white supremacist happened
      Fri Delaware ( his home state) a speech and a fundraiser
      Sun , he went to his Wilmington Catholic Church as he normally does ( unlike Trump hes not a phony christian)
      Mon Harrisburg Pennsylvania ( a core state he needs to win)
      Wed Warren Michigan, another state he needs to win

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  18th September 2020

    So much fascination in a orange faced man in the USA,its a pity he cannot bring peace to his own country and his own greater family.

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    • Corky

       /  18th September 2020

      Fear not, GI Joe is coming to the rescue.

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    • Jack

       /  18th September 2020

      Perhaps he gave up trying to appease his family. Blame the father’s hard hearted-ness and leave the son to do his best. Trump is not personally responsible for the unrest of other individuals

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  3. Hasn’t anyone happened to notice that our government has plunged us into the worst recession ever ???

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2020

      Already over , the next quarter ,Q3 will show the greatest growth ever in our history (-from data already collected).
      Like the ‘recession’ the ‘boom’ doesnt mean much in the big picture of these unique circumstances.

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      • David

         /  18th September 2020

        I am with you on that Duker, its ridiculous to even bother trying to calculate GDP at the moment let alone take any notice of it as it means jack shit, it makes an alluring headline.
        The spring back up until the Auckland outbreak was remarkable and the same is being seen all over the world.
        I think somewhere on here my prediction that it would be a springback similar to post 9/11 rather than an economic collapse of any duration will bear that out. Stupid economists predicting 15% fall in house values and 25% unemployment.
        Ardern oddly has instilled confidence.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  18th September 2020

      So if National had been in power there would have been no recession?

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      • Corky

         /  18th September 2020

        Of course there would have been a recession. National is releasing its economic package today. I think the point of contention is Covid responses and what each party is going to do to recover from the recession.

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        • National wanted border testing from the beginning, which would probably have meant that the lockdowns and resulting disaster would not have happened, or at least not have happened to anything like the same extent.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  18th September 2020

            Was there capacity to border test early on, our government like most around the world were ill prepared to deal with the pandemic. Up until now governments have been reluctant to spend money on preparing for potential pandemics. With the benefit of hindsight it would have been cheap insurance, hopefully going forward there will be more attention paid to preparedness.
            The government could have done nothing to stop the collapse of the tourism industry and also the done little to in regard to the foreign student based sector.

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          • Duker

             /  18th September 2020

            yes . The people who allowed coal mining with virtually no oversight were going to have the most perfect quarantine ever.
            The other promises from national belied that as they wanted to open the borders sooner, have chinese students back and reduce lockdowns sooner, in no way could there even be enough hotel rooms for that which would have been achieved by ‘self isolation’ and weekly knocks on the door to see if they are still home.

            Now we see their economic plan is spend more than labour ( by using up the contingency immediately) , reduce borrowing by magic thinking and chinese funded infrastructure bank and say they will have a big Provincial growth fund

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    • Alan Foster

       /  18th September 2020

      I was expecting about a 20% reduction in the GDP seeing tourism accounts for 11% of GDP & with the 4 week shutdown. The cafes at our local shopping centres are well patronized now.

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      • Duker

         /  18th September 2020

        Thats because Tourism over inflates their ‘industry’ size. Half of ‘tourism’ is just normal hospitality and local travel.

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      • David

         /  18th September 2020

        As per Duker and then you have to add back in Kiwis tourisming at home, i am supposed to be in Nashville this weekend not Christchurch.
        The lockdown was also during shoulder season where there arent a lot of overseas visitors.

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    • duperez

       /  18th September 2020

      Repeatedly portraying things as “Hasn’t anyone happened to notice that our government has plunged us into the worst recession ever” as if some time back a deliberate decision was made to do that simply displays partisan, malevolent ignorance.

      Apparently there was a virus. It was truly internationally widespread. It was an uncommon event.

      In the circumstances things had to be done. The Government is charged with running the country. They did what they thought needed to be done and went from there.

      Virtually every step of the way from the beginning you depicted the handling of events as somewhere between poor, dreadful and diabolical with rambles off into illegal, unconstitutional and inhumane.

      The implications seem to have been have been that Simon Bridges and you and your experts knew instinctively, on the fly, in dramatically exploding new circumstances across all facets of life and society what to do, would have done it and things would have ‘been better.’ (Or even perfect I suppose.) Much much better anyway because things couldn’t be worse.

      Then you’ve got the temerity to chuck in ‘probably have meant that the lockdowns and resulting disaster would not have happened’ as if margins, ‘what ifs’ and ‘maybes’ would have been acceptable and excusable if National had been in charge.

      You not only don’t know how lucky you are, you are squandering the chance to relish that, instead spending your time somewhere deep up Misery Gulch. What a dismal outlook.

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      • I did not say that it was deliberate, only that it was crass mismanagement.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  18th September 2020

          Of course it was deliberate. The economic consequences were well known and publicised by all economists at the time.

          It may or may not have been excusable but it was certainly deliberate.

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        • duperez

           /  18th September 2020

          Semantics can be an ally and defence. Using them in the on-going context and in association with a condemnation of ‘has plunged us,’ is more than a bit rich.

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    • Blazer

       /  19th September 2020

      I heard there was a worlwide pandemic that has affected every nation on earth.

      You should watch the….News.

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  4. Corky

     /  18th September 2020

    For Duker from the Covid thread.

    BS – you are looking at serious side effects. Few look at the not-so -serious side effects like skin rashes, digestive problems and cognitive dysfunction to name a FEW.

    In fact, I would almost guarantee some of the grandchildren of posters on this blog suffer from one of the things I mention.

    Seeing you know everything, why not explain what happens should a parent ask to see the inslip accompanying a vaccine dose.

    Better still let’s see if you can sort out fake facts from reality.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/042012_vaccine_facts_vaccine-damaged_children_CDC.html

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th September 2020

      My opinion on vaccination is that at present it is too ready to accept unknown causes for known adverse reactions. Statistically they are outweighed by the benefits but that is no comfort for those who bear the costs. Pressure to identify the causes and protect those who would be vulnerable should be maintained.

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2020

      You are full of the usual absurd nonsense Corky…give it a rest.
      Like all these things if you dont believe in vaccines or risky surgery – DONT DO IT

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  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  18th September 2020

    The epidemiologists seized their opportunity to market panic to the media who ran with it to broadcast it to the public. Once the public were sufficiently alarmed the politicians could do little but ride the wave while the “scientists” provided the wind.

    Now most of Europe is staring down the canyon at a second wave of lockdowns and economic collapse while furiously printing money and watching the pigeons from the first wave coming home to roost.

    A population too fearful to leave home will be reduced to a subset of life and a subsistence existence in short order. Already most need to be told what to do by “experts” while the mass media lick the feet of their political “saviour”.

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    • The students who are afraid to return to university here are a case in point. The chances of them catching anything are all but non-existent, but they are acting as if going back would be virtually a death sentence.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th September 2020

        To the woke Left no risk is too small to fear and avoid. At any cost.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  18th September 2020

          Alan explain to the world what a woke lefty is in comparison to a woke righty

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          • Corky

             /  18th September 2020

            A woke Lefty wants payment for being woke. A woke Righty is too busy working to worry about his wokness.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  19th September 2020

            A woke Righty believes it is his job to fix any problems. A woke Lefty believes it is someone else’s.

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  6. Corky

     /  18th September 2020

    National to vaccinate us against socialism.

    But…energy payments to remain!!!! Surely that’s just for a couple of years? The thought of Lurchy warming himself at my expense riles me up.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/426369/national-promises-4-point-7bn-in-tax-cuts-in-economic-and-tax-poli

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2020

      Surely you get it too …for more lines of Lotto …so you say that it becomes ‘tax free’

      “Last year, the department closed 114 prosecutions. A flick through some of the court cases of the tax evaders Inland Revenue has chosen to prosecute makes interesting reading. They are painters, builders, bodyguards, mothers, restaurateurs, accountants, property developers. There is often one similarity. “There is no suggestion of a previous history of dishonesty,”
      The prosecutions are far exceeded by those people who are caught who pay up or go into installment arrangments
      https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/inland-revenue/06-12-2017/tax-cheats-and-how-to-catch-them/

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      • Corky

         /  18th September 2020

        What are you on about?

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        • Duker

           /  18th September 2020

          You claiming you ‘win’ thousands each week at Lotto

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          • Corky

             /  18th September 2020

            More lies. I claim to win at least $ 300 upwards. Around $ 800 is my average take home per week ( above my $800 outlay). About three times a year I win a multi thousand dollar prize.

            If you want I will provide the books I used to create my system, so you can spend 5 years trying to work things out like I did. I have already given you step one for my system.

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            • Corky

               /  18th September 2020

              Sep One- in any drawn there will be at the very least 4 odd winning numbers…or 4 even winning numbers( bonus ball included)

              This was Wednesdays draw. If I had been playing it, I would have scored a reasonably big prize because of the 5 odd numbers.

              11 17 18 25 29 37 B 22

            • Blazer

               /  19th September 2020

              Don’t they have more than those 5 odd numbers?

    • MaureenW

       /  18th September 2020

      This is exactly what’s happening .. see Christopher Wray has come out today with a new Russia threat to Biden’s campaign. As if Biden wasn’t enough of a threat to his own campaign ..

      Surprised Trump had shown such poor judgement in his appointments to key positions.

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    • Corky

       /  18th September 2020

      Excellent article.

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  18th September 2020

    Wow National likes people earning $60-$80000,bugger all below $60000,mind you it will not happen if ACT get back in,in a position of power…WFF is going,it seems everything is going or chopped under Seymours capitalist free speech paradise gun lovers party*
    *RELAX Saint Jacinda will get back in

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    • Corky

       /  18th September 2020

      Reward for the mule class who pay your welfare cheque. You will still get something as benefits are taxed. Maybe $4 to treat yourself.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  18th September 2020

        Attention MOD,PG, Corky is constantly targeting me as a welfare beneficiary,IM ON THE PENSION, im 71 yo,the stupid prick is starting to make a fool of himself
        PS let me respond to the insults from the probably unemployed idiot, or he might mention YOUR pension and that you are a nothing person, worthy of death or are a bludger

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        • I don’t think he will mention my pension because I don’t receive one.

          You both get too personal and provocative at times. I would prefer not to have to deal with it, but that would require more restraint from you both.

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          • Corky

             /  18th September 2020

            Have no worries, Pete. I won’t engage Lurchy again. He’s one of these folk who like to dish it out but have little tolerance for recieving their own medicine.

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        • Corky

           /  18th September 2020

          Easy now. Don’t play to Pete. You are RIGHT. I forgot you are on super. My apologies.
          But let’s be honest…isn’t Super a form of benefit paid by me as a taxpayer?

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          • lurcher1948

             /  18th September 2020

            Corky i DONT think of you after i [deleted] and [deleted], you are as imported to me as [deleted], WITH THE SAME MENTALITY

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  8. David

     /  18th September 2020

    Looks like Arderns Covid plan is working, well done to her and her team for the response and what a shame the idiot from the church didnt do as he was told.
    I feel very sorry for the Americold guy that died but I guess he had other comorbidities given he was so young. But where the hell did the outbreak come from ??
    It did show big holes in the border again and a serious lapse from Bloomfield, Hipkins, Woods et al. I am leaning towards making it harder and harder for permanent residents to come in, stopping flights completely from India and flights from all those countries that end in “stan” to reduce the risk of more deaths here.

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    • duperez

       /  18th September 2020

      Are you like the good folk of Clutha – Southland who don’t want to get covid -19 from someone coming in on a plane from India but don’t mind so much about getting it from a rugby person from Argentina, South Africa or Australia?

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  9. Jack

     /  18th September 2020

    Pete said that he needed to censor my comments to protect others from harassment.

    I have decided that I will no longer be involved with this site.

    Cheers everyone, and I hope peace and comfort for you all during this election season and beyond.

    Participating here has benefited me following church abuse and during ongoing community harassment. I thank most of you for your tolerance as my fellow Kiwis.

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    • MaureenW

       /  18th September 2020

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    • “Pete said that he needed to censor my comments to protect others from harassment.”

      I didn’t say that. I do limit people from making inaccurate claims about others.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  18th September 2020

        But you allow elderly harassment by Corky,WHEN the elderly are moderated WITH NO RIGHT TO RESPOND TO INSULTS…small change to you PG, but as a proud worker,YOU HAVE NO IDEA, as a proud NZ -Scots

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  10. Corky

     /  18th September 2020

    Great minds think alike:

    YouTube
    Liberal Hivemind.
    464K subscribers

    Lol.

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  11. Gerrit

     /  18th September 2020

    Remember folks we are in level 2 lockdown where social distancing is mandatory, group gathering numbers are restricted to 10, and mask wearing encouraged. This is dear leader yesterday at Massey University in Palmerston North. Anyone see a hypocrite?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/300110276/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-backs-tangi-utikere-to-win-palmerston-north-seat

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    • Corky

       /  18th September 2020

      Yep..I think Judith is beating our dear leader in that regard.

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2020

      level 2
      ‘Gatherings, events and public venues
      “No more than 100 people at social gatherings, including weddings, birthdays, funerals and tangihanga. ”
      Its not mandatory at all about distancing
      “the person organising the gathering legally must record attendees to make sure contact tracing can happen if needed. At a social gathering you do not need to do this if every person at the gathering knows each other. To play it safe, keep records even if everyone knows each other.”
      https://covid19.govt.nz/everyday-life/gatherings-and-events/

      Where did you get your information….or did you make it up. level 2 in Auckland has smaller gatherings.

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      • Corky

         /  18th September 2020

        Then why is Judith bumping elbows and is rarely seen with a huge crowds surrounding her?
        You are quoting the rules. What about a moral example from our dear leader?

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        • Duker

           /  18th September 2020

          Shes not good with crowds …stands behind a lectern with a ‘gathering of suits in seats’.
          Something about her cankles stops her being photographed with the great unwashed

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          • Corky

             /  18th September 2020

            You are thicker then I originally thought. What has a leaders physical trait got to do with the subject? Typical nasty Lefty.

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            • Duker

               /  18th September 2020

              It was used here all the time against Hilary Clinton..payback time

              The whole the premise here was ‘nasty Ardern not distancing’ so dont play all innocent

            • Dukeofurl

               /  18th September 2020

              Shes a sack of potatoes dressed in an Adrienne Winkelmann outfit…
              Thats another payback….

            • Corky

               /  18th September 2020

              Excuse me – I have never used physical denigration as a weapon. It’s not part of my make up. And what the fugg has Hilary got to do with the price of fish?

              Since when is distance a physical attribute?

              Typical nasty Lefty. Once cornered they thrash around like a cur being held back for the first time by a choke chain.

            • Duker

               /  18th September 2020

              Like I said she does ‘suits on seats’ meetings and stands behind a lecture for a reason….
              Wake up this sort of carefully chosen political theatre is everything these days as that’s what voters notice….it’s not genuine as she doesn’t want to play nice or talk about more EVs

              Remember the commie chick jibe from last election, well the well dressed sack of potatoes using the lecture as a prop to hide her cankles and small stature …..this is the payback jibe.
              Bennett didn’t transform herself by accident, now she’s selling real estate because he backed the wrong horse Bridges

      • Gerrit

         /  18th September 2020

        Whilst you are correct the gathering numbers outside Auckland are100; the need for social distancing is still a mandatory 2 metres.

        Read down to event facilities at alert level 2 on your link;

        “Event facilities can have up to 100 people within any defined space. They also need to assess how many people can safely be inside the premises and still maintain 1 metre physical distancing. This could mean the facility needs to have fewer than 100 people in a defined space.”

        An outdoor space is a single space if there is at least 2 metres between all people in that space and any other people (outside that space)”

        I guess you will spin this as being a social gathering, not an organised event.

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        • Gerrit

           /  18th September 2020

          And if considered a gathering at publlc facilities, the rules even include the
          “legally” word;

          “If you go to a public facility, you legally must keep 1 metre physical distance from people you don’t know, where possible — if you can not, consider wearing a face covering.”

          No way Ardern “knew” the people gathered around her, hence the need for separation or a face covering.

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          • Duker

             /  18th September 2020

            Collect names before the event …. or use the covid app.
            Every where I go thats what happens , dont you get out much ?

            They dont have to be personal knowledge of the PM

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            • Gerrit

               /  18th September 2020

              So the one metre rule does not apply? Oh goody,

              And I dont know where you are but here in deepest, dark, south Auckland, no one wears a mask (well maybe 10% do) and no one (well maybe 10% do) uses the covid app (or signs in) .

              For all intense and purposes were are at level 1. Even the upmarket public drinking hole, we were at for Sunday lunch, the bar was trading. Only concession was the “wait to be seated” edict. Service was by four different people and there was mingling and mixing among the tables.

              No one gives a rats arse, we just follow Arderns example.

            • Duker

               /  18th September 2020

              4 days without a new case means it’s working…it should have started like that a week ago but some fundamentalist church hd their own ideas during L3

  12. Gerrit

     /  18th September 2020

    More hypocrisy. Who said

    “Keep in mind, at level 2, social distancing is required. So social distancing in retail, social distancing in hospitality are all built into the rules,” she said during a press conference on Sunday.

    “Mask use is not a replacement for social distancing – it must be in addition to. This is something that health officials have been very clear on, so I wouldn’t want anyone to think that if you’ve got a mask, you can then be in close proximity to strangers. We’re asking for both.”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/08/coronavirus-jacinda-ardern-warns-masks-not-a-replacement-for-social-distancing.html?fbclid=IwAR3YQce15X3J5vpqgATVdk9oHntcvvI1IkaGigHFKg9jY9KfPCI7wP2lhHk

    I guess the Duker wriggle room is that Ardern was not in a hospitality situation!!

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  13. Corky

     /  18th September 2020

    Joe’s greatest hits. That old racist. Sometimes I have thought Trumpy should have been swallowed up by a hole, but honestly, Biden is on another planet. His lack of self awarness is stunning. And just think – this chap could soon be the President.

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  14. Duker

     /  18th September 2020

    Manipulated video doest prove anything

    Reply

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