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  1. artcroft

     /  20th September 2020

    America is a very diminished force, distracted by their own internal to divisions and unable to offer much on the global stage. If fact they will remain open to foreign manipulation for decades to come. For many Americans, poverty is the future.

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    • Corky

       /  20th September 2020

      Don’t forget New Zealand, Arty. I’m astounded at the people I talk to who have no perception of what’s going to happen to our once great nation. They talk about when things get back to normal. Things are never going back to normal. Strange as it seems, I’m betting on a mass migration of Kiwis back to Aussie( if possible) in the future. It won’t be that Aussie is better in many regards, it will be because in Aussie they may have hope and a chance.

      That is predicated on Labour winning a second term. Their extension of sick leave for workers if reelected is another example of their ignorance regarding business and the economy.

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      • duperez

         /  20th September 2020

        What was the ‘normal’ you liked? Is it like when the now diminished America that used to be great – when black lives mattered so much that if a black person made eye contact with the right person at the wrong time a savage beating was in order?

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        • David

           /  20th September 2020

          You may have noticed that they elected a black man twice to the presidency, the most admired women are Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey and Beyonce with LeBron James beloved by all. America is now so racist that we 3 white women now having been busted for pretending they were black because it clearly helped them get ahead in academia.
          They have a police brutality problem and now they have a dissolving civil structure with NY being the latest Dem city falling apart. Its wild there now.

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          • duperez

             /  20th September 2020

            And it was never wild before was it? The uppity blacks knew their place. Whoop dee doo though they’ve had plenty of blacks like Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce and LeBron and James Robinson to entertain them.

            They have all sorts of problems with everything, a police brutality problem, dissolving civil structures, rampant ignorance and blind selfishness. Just products of the evolution of their advanced social and economic structures.

            Now if they’d kept the slaves on plantations, given the Massa a big whip, set up concentration camps for dissidents instead of having that Constitution bullshit things would be okay – in a sort of North Korea kind of way …

            They’ve got the Massa now who wants four more terms for himself and his dynasty and he has his Korean cobber as a model, they’re on a roll. 😶

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      • Duker

         /  20th September 2020

        More prognostications from Corky…the man who predicted mass civil disobedience and was wrong there too
        He’s already part of the (….) Fringe , the features of which these sort of hyperbole are common.
        An example is the dude who says lock up your kids if the Dems win

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        • Corky

           /  20th September 2020

          ”More prognostications from Corky…the man who predicted mass civil disobedience and was wrong there too.”

          Yes, I did. And no, it didn’t happen. So ONE up to you…although I wouldn’t celebrate too soon. When the economy really tanks next year, that prediction may come true.

          By the way, what predictions of yours have come true? Oops, sorry, I forgot, you don’t make predictions because you don’t know how. Besides, your fragile ego would shatter if you were proved wrong.

          ”He’s already part of the (….) Fringe , the features of which these sort of hyperbole are common.”

          I have made or passed on many predictions that have proven correct. I don’t belong to any group. What do you take me for…a hive bound Lefty?

          ”An example is the dude who says lock up your kids if the Dems win.”

          Lol!

          Here yah go.

          https://yournz.org/2019/12/28/end-of-a-decade/#comment-390954

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    • David

       /  20th September 2020

      Its such a mess over there and I dont think they are going to be able to fix it without massive change. You have a cohort of woke millennials who have left university with colossal debts and heads full of bloody strange ideas who everyone thought would grow up when they joined the workforce, what has happened is they have taken over by screaming racist, sexist, transphobe at their new employers who have rolled over because its just one of those accusations.
      Nothing ever changes there because the constitution was designed for gridlock which might have been fine 200 years ago but you now have endless problems built up over generations with Washington unable or unwilling to change anything. The 70/80 year olds running politics like having wedge issues to get donations and votes so have no reason to fix anything, they know nothing different.
      If I was an american I would hit the streets to but unless they have a revolution and change root and branch their system it will never improve. The wailing and crying over RBGs death should make americans go “why are we so upset about this and if there is good reason why we are then the importance of judges to run our republic should be reformed because we are morphing into a monarchy”.
      McConnell, Schumer and particularly Pelosi are awful people so far detached from voters and clinging to their positions by being able to dish out donations given by people rich enough to have agendas completely detached from the citizenry.

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      • Blazer

         /  20th September 2020

        Americans with money have plenty of options.
        The Sth Island of NZ seems to appeal.I can see a big influx in coming years.
        Vancouver now has 50% of its population of Asian descent.

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      • duperez

         /  20th September 2020

        Such a mess over there? You got it.

        One of the names mentioned as being favoured to replace Ginsburg in the Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett: “When Barrett was first confirmed to the federal court in 2017, her past comments about the role of religion in her life and the law drew derision from some top Democrats. Barrett had told Notre Dame graduates in 2006 that “your legal career is but a means to an end, and … that end is building the kingdom of God.” 🤔

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  2. David

     /  20th September 2020

    I was starting to be a little less fearful of our free spending PM, we have no covid and hopefully no greens or winston and that seemed not a bad spot and then Andrew Little pops up.
    Arguably one of the worst MPs ever, horrid man with bloody strange views and his solution to rising unemployment and a recession that Ardern and Robertson are trying to fix comes up with a return to the 70s employment policy. 10 days sick leave, a new public holiday, a further rise to the worlds highest minimum wage, collective bargining, national awards, compulsory unionism…Why, why, why you total out of touch fool.
    If Ardern wants a 3rd term she should put Little back in his box because industrial strife and a return to an inflexible labour market will sink her 3rd term.

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    • Blazer

       /  20th September 2020

      The Nats solution to rising unemployment and recession is to have tax cuts and reopen the economy to foreign speculators and cheap labour.

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      • David

         /  20th September 2020

        Thankfully the borders are shut to new labour market participants and lets hope it stays that way while we look after our own. I can tell you we are delighted to have kiwis back in our hospo enterprise its a great point of difference and we are embracing as much Te Reo as we can. Its fun, much better way of doing things now all we need is Queenstown to throttle back on Airbnb a bit so kiwis arent again priced out by accommodation costs and we can keep our locals when the borders re open.

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        • We need the fruit pickers to save $9,500,000,000 worth of fruit which will otherwise be the world’s most expensive compost.

          It’s insane that there are workers who are stuck here and want to work as fruit pickers but who are being ignored by the government.

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          • They are. They want their visas extended, the locals want them to keep the towns’ incomes up, the government is dragging its feet and not answering their requests to be allowed to stay and work for the fruit picking season.

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  3. Corky

     /  20th September 2020

    First leaders debate. Mike seems to have been sidelined. To controversial probably. And too free thinking. They needed someone who was liberal, anti white male, a crawler to Maori and most importantly of all …is unbiased. Oh, and have horn rimmed glasses for gravitas.

    Folks, I give you:

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    • Duker

       /  20th September 2020

      Hosking no longer works for TVNZ in any form is the reason why, which wasnt the case in 2017

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      • Corky

         /  20th September 2020

        Oh, I thought he was free lancing. I guess the bad blood hasn’t diluted yet. Maybe it’s all for the better. Jacinda is so popular Mike would be accused of criminal assault on Jacinda by the Left if he was moderating.

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        • Duker

           /  20th September 2020

          He gets to interview her on his ‘show’ every week.
          While in other news

          Theres a litany of falsehoods exposed in Mikes Minutes, but he doesnt care previously suggesting they are just little people someone like him doesnt have to bother with.

          When we consider what the CEO of NZME said
          ‘Our commitment to all New Zealanders is that we will maintain the highest journalistic standards as we stay focused on giving Kiwis the news and information they need, when they need it,”
          Highest standards , may be the reason ‘Mikey’ has disappeared from the NZ Herald website too ( a few months back his little daily ‘synopsis’ was a regular feature there- except when NZME wanted the government to change the rules to allow them to takeover Stuff – for $1)

          https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018764431/watchdog-runs-the-numbers-on-covid-death-claims

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          • Corky

             /  20th September 2020

            ”There’s a litany of falsehoods exposed in Mikes Minutes”

            Give me some examples.

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            • duperez

               /  20th September 2020

              It isn’t a falsehood for Hosking to make out that he knows what’s best and say things are happening in ways that shouldn’t be, or other things should be being done and make out he is the oracle and then change his story and then change his story and then change his story.

              It just an example of a big mouth raving on as if some sort of authority, brazen enough to pretend he hadn’t said it and knowing that clods equal to his intellect would be spouting whatever this take of the day was.

              That’s not falsehoods although believe he has been called up on ‘misrepresentations.’ That’s a 13th grade Riverton C rugby player thinking and acting like he’s an All Black.

            • Corky

               /  20th September 2020

              Give me some examples and stop your mindless yapping.

              Something like this from his weekly interview with the PM:

              Jacinda: Mike, don’t forget you orginally supported a lockdown.

              Mikey: Yes, I did. But not the type of lockdown that eventuated.

              ( the PMs office obviously has some dimwits who haven’t kept a historical record of Mike’s utterance. They thought they could get away bs..wrong!)

              Opps, just seen it’s Duperez and not Duker. I think a one off serve should be allowed.🤔☑

            • duperez

               /  20th September 2020

              I leave ‘mindless yapping’ to others as their Field of Expertise. They’re very experienced, almost daily, of longevity in direct in proportion to their intellectual rigour.
              https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018741210/mike-hosking-s-many-contradictory-takes-on-covid-19

            • Corky

               /  20th September 2020

              Still yapping. I went over that with Duker. Once again the timeline is the important issue. You make decisions based on available information.

              The bottom line is Mike is far to intelligent for the Left. Why do think 77, 000 drop kicks want him banned from the airwaves?

              Why do you think I only have to mention Mike and the Left on this blog go berserk? You are an example.

              Give me a fresh example. Not something I have already picked apart.

              Surely you can do that given your superior intellect.

            • duperez

               /  20th September 2020

              Yeah, people make decisions based on available information. So the government made decisions based on available information and it wasn’t good enough.
              They were supposed to be oracles and great predictors of the unpredictable and new. In a pandemic. Hosking knew better and had the daily luxury of being right, more right than anyone else and changing his mind when he was wrong.

              From the comfort of his studio where no really important decisions have to be made he gets given a free pass for his bluster and ignorant excesses. He appeals to yobbos whose minds operate at the same simple self-entered level.

              His stuff ups and shortcomings are regularly exposed on Media Watch which is a radio programme weekly examining media coverage on issues. (A station usually listened to by those with IQs higher than 60.)

              There are at least 77,000 who would sign a petition agreeing that he thinks he has the answers to just about everything wrong with the country, can identify just about everything in the country having something wrong with it on any given day, and is in permanent whinge mode about it. They would agree he thinks he has the answers to them all. They know for certain thousands up and down the country every day get off their butts to try to make a difference to improve the place. Something practical. He whinges and complains.

              In presentation he is more like Tucker Carlson but so often he is Charlie Kirk.

          • Why is he wearing his grandpa’s dressing gown ?

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        • duperez

           /  20th September 2020

          It’s a pity your Mike isn’t going to be on. He’s been assaulting her almost daily for three years and he could have kept up God’s work in that medium.

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          • duperez

             /  20th September 2020

            A mate got in touch who reckoned that Hosking wanted to be the Tucker Carlson of NZ broadcasting and once mastering the style would head for Charlie Kirk style. (Never heard of him but immediately thought Captain Kirk? And checked.)

            Um, no. Just another broadcasting oracle. Wow! 😱 I can see Hosking in the role though.

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  4. Does anyone else have a quick look around to see if J-ck’s still here ?

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  5. 13,000 of them in August had signed a petition asking to be let to stay. They want their visas to be extended and are quite willing to pick fruit. It’s been on the news and in the papers as well as online.

    Do try to keep up with what’s happening before you sneer at those who do so.

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    • This was in answer to Blazer sneering about my exaggeration and lack of evidence; his comment seems to have vanished and mine ended up here for some reason.

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    • duperez

       /  20th September 2020

      Tell us what is stopping your ‘click of the fingers’ solution. What ramifications are there, what downstream implications are there which means an instant pudding solution isn’t taken. What exactly are the logistics involved?

      Maybe you can rouse round your neighbourhood and collect a busload of other well-meaning types to go to Hawkes Bay or wherever and do your bit for the country.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  20th September 2020

    Now we all know hes a whimpy rightwing liberal,
    https://t.co/ujTSFqqP8I?amp=1

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    • How on earth does dropping GDP as a concept affect the planet ??? He must be losing it.

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      • Kimbo

         /  20th September 2020

        Clumsy choice of words by Attenborough. What he means is that the NZ government’s measure of core national well-being has been expanded to include more than just GDP. Including environmental indicators…

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  20th September 2020

      I think he’s definitely qualified for the loony Left certificate now, Lurch. The ozone issue was tackled 50 years ago when I was a student. Ardern has no more replaced GDP as a measure than she has delivered Kiwibuild. The western populations are aging and growing only through immigration from the world’s hellholes.

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