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  1. lurcher1948

     /  21st September 2020

    Dont anyone mention Paul Goldsmiths $4 billion fiscal mistake

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  2. David

     /  21st September 2020

    The government is being a bit secretive with their Covid announcements and one cant help but think the release of the situation with the Indian who it seems obvious picked up Covid while in isolation after his 3 day test and around his day 11 test is convenient. His contact was the child who went to school last week with it and his situation has been known for 5 days at least now with no mention of it.
    Nationals own goal seemed like a good time to release the information they have been sitting on which seems pretty clear has exposed a hole in their isolation protocols again. I expect our intrepid media to be on to these shenanigans and lack of transparency.

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    • Duker

       /  21st September 2020

      Wrong …it was picked up some time after he left isolation, by 4 contact tracing of people who tested positive…those things take time
      They have to do the DNA sequencing to find out the strain involved…. I dont think its obvious he picked up while in MIQ and could just be he took longer than the 14 days to develop enough virus to be detectable in the 3 and 14 day tests

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  3. David

     /  21st September 2020

    I have been thinking about this covid app that Bloomfield keeps wittering on about and was watching folk scan into the supermarket and its complusory to have the QR sign but everytime some Covid infectee goes to a supermarket no one is considered a close contact and dont need to get tested.
    No one gets alerted on the app for anything that I can remember reading about. The whole thing makes zero sense to me, either we need the app because of casual unkown contacts or casual contacts are not a risk so we dont need the app. Bear in mind at risk places like gyms and bars etc run their own registers anyway by law.

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    • Blazer

       /  21st September 2020

      The App is effective at worse ,by keeping Covid in the public conciousness.

      Complacency is a danger.

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    • Duker

       /  21st September 2020

      Go to the website and get real information rather than ‘somethings’ that go through your mind.
      The ‘alert’ is a feature that people have to have turned on, Not much point ‘over alerting’ people with say someone visited the supermarket the day before or day after, it would only make sense if you were around the same time period and wonder if stood next to them at checkout.

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  4. Blazer

     /  21st September 2020

    Who could vote for this clown…

    ‘The region [Southland] needs Filipinos to come and milk cows and many other things.”

    D.Seymour ACT Party(Stuff)

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    • Duker

       /  21st September 2020

      Filipinos dont really drink milk or have much of a dairy industry to deliver that
      Its an immigration scam for urban Filipinos to get into country… once the residency is approved its goodbye to cold Southland dairy farms for the big smoke

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      • The WWI & II land girls couldn’t milk cows and do other such things, either, but they learned. The Filipinos are likely to be capable of learning these things.

        Who is running the scam, if it is one ?

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        • Blazer

           /  21st September 2020

          Are Bangladeshis or Colombians capable of learning these..things?

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        • Duker

           /  21st September 2020

          The scam is that their visas say they are ‘experienced diary farm workers’
          “Dairy worker visa fraudster pleads guilty to 284 charges”
          A woman has admitted a scam in which more than 1000 Filipinos working on dairy farms paid thousands of dollars for fraudulent visas.
          Loraine Anne Jayme, 35, of Te Aroha appeared in the Hamilton District Court on Wednesday, where she pleaded guilty to 284 fraud charges, covering obtaining by deception, using forged documents, supplying false information and forgery.
          She was remanded on bail by Judge Kim Saunders, to next appear for sentencing on October 21.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/83235642/dairy-worker-visa-fraudster-pleads-guilty-to-284-charges#

          Migrant agents tour the farmers drumming up business, I often see a migrant agents branded car outside the local diary ….. thats another scam – “shop managers” when they are just poorly paid and 7 days a week shop clerks

          A friend worked for a South African who had a computer business in provincial city…ghost workers on the books came from South Africa as ‘ computer technicians’ when they wer nothing of the sort but INZ had to see the job offer and pay slips and so on. All a scam.

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          • Duker

             /  21st September 2020

            “”We’re talking about large-scale, industry-wide problem,” said Ben De’Ath, a licensed immigration advisor and managing director of Cross Country Recruitment, when details of the scam were revealed in September.
            “It has become clear that an elaborate ‘black market’ of farms in the Philippines have sold employment certificates used to attain work abroad.”
            The farms charged an “unfathomable amount of money” for the documents, he said.
            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/83235642/dairy-worker-visa-fraudster-pleads-guilty-to-284-charges#

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            • Blazer

               /  21st September 2020

              Good info Duker….be interested in ACT’s David Seymore …..and his comments when presented with this!

    • duperez

       /  21st September 2020

      The people of Epsom will vote for him in their hordes. He won’t be touring the electorate this week meeting the locals in their schools, addressing their assembles, speaking to the thousands with the important message.

      Cn you imagine him at Auckland Grammar, Epsom Girls, Diocesan, St Cuthberts and the ACG Colleges:
      ‘The region [Southland] needs kiwis to come and milk cows and many other things.”
      🐄🐐

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    • If he thought it was waste of time, why did he bother to watch it ?

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      • duperez

         /  21st September 2020

        The same reason people watch a sports game to the end, waiting for the drama, the big finish. There was game in Christchurch like that in the weekend. Apparently Bradbury doesn’t like sports. I certainly wouldn’t have have looked at the the political event ahead of the sporting one. His hobby I guess.

        That said, this got me checking on there and I found something far more significant than anything about his 40 minutes.

        These claims are made there by Matt McCarten.

        “DOLLAR DEALERS, an Auckland pawn shop chain, sacked several workers after taking nearly $500,000 from the COVID fund set up to protect these workers’ jobs.

        Dollar Dealers sacked these workers on the spot, with no redundancy pay in the middle of the COVID lockdown. Dollar Dealers then pocketed the COVID subsidy for themselves. The workers got nothing. The boss made money. Shortly afterwards Dollar Dealers advertised vacancies. None of the ‘redundant’ workers were offered their jobs back.”

        Someone claims:
        “There are examples of “Covid Capitalism” all around the country, and, many of them are there for all to see on MSD site. Carter Holt Harvey, LVL plant, Ruakaka got $2.2 mill in wage subsidy, gave none to the workers, harvested their leave entitlements, and is currently sacking 70% of the workers, in a plan hatched before the lockdown was announced! Unions have multiple cases and PGs in train over this.”

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  5. duperez

     /  21st September 2020

    Trump’s come up with his Supreme Court shortlist – or not:

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  6. Duker

     /  21st September 2020

    Remember the failure by Crusher Collins to deal with this problem, and declared victory after 3 cars crushed
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300112556/relentless-boy-racers-rip-and-tear-palmerston-north-industrial-properties

    yep the problem was solved and time to head off on junkets in China to lavish praise on …Oravida instead

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    • Blazer

       /  21st September 2020

      I liked the the Kauri exports that Collins company engaged in.

      By scribbling on kauri logs they became ‘art’ which allowed them to be exported.

      All done in the be$t,po$$ible….ta$te!

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  21st September 2020

    People might notice that kiwiblog has put up a post abusing the” Labour” party but overlooks that economic genius stuff up $4 BILLION by their experienced book writer Mr Goldsmith…when National stuffs up,the spin is fantastic from their spindoctor.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  21st September 2020

      Labour’s major action failures speak a lot louder than overlooking the latest update to a meaningless forecast – unless you are a Lefyy..

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