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  1. lurcher1948

     /  23rd September 2020

    So in Ms Collins mind shes hi energy and Ms Ardern is low energy,theres a old leader who paints his face orange who uses this phrase,mind you Ms Collins popularity has stalled and the low energy ones is way up there.

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  2. David

     /  23rd September 2020

    I couldnt bring myself to watch anything presented by the awful John Campbell but it looks like Collins was the winner. She was certainly exceptionally upbeat on the AM show and even Stuff gave her the win although the had to caveat that with Ardern didnt lose which is very lefty millennial of them.
    Sounds like Ardern was her typical ultra cautious and has avoided a gotcha moment which is probably the smart play given where her polling is, albeit on the slide a little.
    I look forward to the erudite and balanced analysis from Duker, Lurcher, and Blazer or the Er Er Ers as I like to call them.

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    • duperez

       /  23rd September 2020

      Erudite analysis is a fine thing when it emanates from it ‘looks like’ or ‘sounds like.’ 🙂

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    • Blazer

       /  23rd September 2020

      Collins certainly presented way better than Bridges or Muller could have imo.

      Can give her the win in this tame battle….but the ..War!

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  3. Alan Foster

     /  23rd September 2020

    Birkenhead house sells for $1,265,000 more than CV.
    Who has this sort of money?
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/122848181/birkenhead-1950s-house-attracts-100-bids-and-sells-for-229-million#comments.
    Without a CGT, the rich will get richer & richer.

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    • Gerrit

       /  23rd September 2020

      What exactly will a CGT do to lower house prices?

      Prices are set by how much a buyer will pay. In this case the large section is worth more than the house upon it.

      As the story says, the house will be demolished and up to four townhouses or apartment placed on it. They will sell for $800K each. Build all 4 dwellings for $800K plus the price of the section at $2M and you have a handy $400K profit. Not bad for 18 months work.

      Happening all over Auckland. Come to deepest dark South Auckland and high density housing is going up by the ton. Birkenhead is in a desirable area hence the high section price.

      Nothing to stop a “poor” person going to the bank and doing the same.

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      • duperez

         /  23rd September 2020

        One of our offspring is trying to buy a house in the capital. I’ll send your advice, “Nothing to stop a “poor” person going to the bank and doing the same.”

        A determined, bright, motivated go-getter. You reckon she can do the same in 18 months? Along with all the other determined, bright, motivated go-getters there?

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        • Gerrit

           /  23rd September 2020

          You saying she cant? Absolutely nothing stopping her!!

          Someone is doing the section buying and apartment building.

          Maybe hold your offspring in higher regard and let her get on with it.

          I would imagine in Wellington there is a distinct lack of larger section unless you go to the less desirable suburbs.

          Biggest mistake I made was not buying the large sections in Otara 20 years ago. Did not foresee the value of the section being worth more than the house even in a poor area. Similarly did not buy a clifftop section at Maraitai 30 years ago due to no town water or sewerage system in place (and gee it was a long way out of town). Could have bought a section for a years wages that now fetches 10 years wages.

          Waiting and procrastination is the problem. Just tell her to get on the ladder anywhere and start working up. When the trains start running to Foxton, Levin and Bulls those places will become desirable and worth buying into right now. Much like places like Te Kauwhata, Huntly, Ngarawhagia, etc, and even Tirau later on have become desirable due to the Waikato Express Way.

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          • duperez

             /  23rd September 2020

            No doubts about her at all. Just a specific example, sort of representing the hordes. All of them moving out to Foxton, Levin and Bulls and commuting to town for work will be lovely for the transport system. Daily commuting to Featherston (hour each way) is fun apparently. Trains willing.

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          • Gerrit, I remember when it was an embarrassment to come from Ponsonby and you could hardly give a house there away.

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          • Alan Foster

             /  24th September 2020

            Well, in Auckland the cheapest house / apartment would be $500,000 so you would need to save $100,000 before a bank can loan you the money. How could a young couple do this? Also I wouldn’t want to be driving from Huntly etc into Auckland – would take you 2 hours.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  23rd September 2020

      It’s weird how the Left refuse to accept the inevitable consequences of their own blinding stupidity. Prevent land development and building by giving power to bureaucrats and politicians and create shortages then complain that prices have gone up. Total irresponsible idiots.

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      • Alan Foster

         /  24th September 2020

        Totally irresponsible to flood the country with immigrants like Key did. Every one I talk to agrees that this was the dumbest action of all time.

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  4. Corky

     /  23rd September 2020

    The comments to this clip were turned off. We can all take a guess why?

    The Finance Debate:

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    • Duker

       /  23rd September 2020

      Since when has RNZ stories had ‘comments section’ ?
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/426685/act-s-david-seymour-standout-performer-at-finance-debate

      There is nothing about comments at all, let alone ‘off’

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      • Corky

         /  23rd September 2020

        Er, I got the clip from YouTube. Funny thing is, I was thinking…should I mention YouTube? Nah, I thought, surely everyone would assume……?

        Yep, whoever said assumption is the mother of all fuckups was right.

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      • Corky

         /  23rd September 2020

        But look, Duker. All you need to know is one minute the Left were cruising; their trolls happy as Larry; the next they are in all sorts of trouble. Labour may still have the lead…but now they must work for a living.

        By the way, I had to turn talkback off. The Left had released their talkback trolls. Quite a sophisticated bunch I must admit compared with previous years. No nasal whine. They can string a sentence together. They don’t get nasty, or go off track when challenged. Most impressive. Like rust, the Left never sleep.

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  5. Did anyone see the story of the two men who have escaped a murder or even manslaughter charge in Australia because they were drunk and supposedly unable to tell that beating an older man to death in what seems like an unprovoked attack was likely to…make him die ?

    They were not incapable of the ferocity of the attack; I’d guess that beating someone to death takes some deliberation and force !

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  23rd September 2020

    Interesting new book:
    The Great Demographic Reversal: Ageing Societies, Waning Inequality, and an Inflation Revival by Charles Goodhart, Manoj Pradhan

    This original and panoramic book proposes that the underlying forces of demography and globalisation will shortly reverse three multi-decade global trends – it will raise inflation and interest rates, but lead to a pullback in inequality. “Whatever the future holds”, the authors argue, “it will be nothing like the past”. Deflationary headwinds over the last three decades have been primarily due to an enormous surge in the world’s available labour supply, owing to very favourable demographic trends and the entry of China and Eastern Europe into the world’s trading system. This book demonstrates how these demographic trends are on the point of reversing sharply, coinciding with a retreat from globalisation. The result? Ageing can be expected to raise inflation and interest rates, bringing a slew of problems for an over-indebted world economy, but is also anticipated to increase the share of labour, so that inequality falls. Covering many social and political factors, as well as those that are more purely macroeconomic, the authors address topics including ageing, dementia, inequality, populism, retirement and debt finance, among others. This book will be of interest and understandable to anyone with an interest on where the world’s economy is going.
    https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Great_Demographic_Reversal.html?id=rEz2DwAAQBAJ

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  23rd September 2020

    As I noted Labour plans to heap a load of costs, red tape and restrictions on agriculture. Now they plan to park some of it on the taxpayer as well. Thanks Labour.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122859926/election-2020-labour-promises-50m-for-farm-planning-to-cut-costs

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    • Duker

       /  23rd September 2020

      Who do you think is going to wear 70% cost of the M Bovis eradication ( 0.5bill plus)…
      The taxpayer thats who.

      Farming has always been about shifting costs onto the taxpayer. Fonterra a $20 bill revenue company co-operative pays not a cent in company tax, indeed it gets around $200 mill rebate for GST for their trouble

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  23rd September 2020

        You do realise that company tax and shareholder income tax are both paid from the company profit?

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        • Duker

           /  23rd September 2020

          Fonterra isn’t a company it’s a co-op so the money passes tax free to Farmers….good luck with Farmers paying more than minimal tax…. Like property investors it’s a Viennese elaborate waltz to create tax free capital gains at the end of the day…or maybe run a little art shop with an art loving vendeuse as a ‘intellectual pursuit’
          I thought Alan Gibbs charitable scukture farm with giraffes was the biggest joke…

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  24th September 2020

            Stupid. The money is taxable income, not tax free. Stop lying.

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            • Blazer

               /  24th September 2020

              So Fonterra reported a turnaround into profit this year….how much tax did it…pay?(my guess is zero)

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  24th September 2020

              My point is that it is taxable either before or after distribution. Complaining about one without considering the other is just deliberately or ignorantly wrong.

  8. David

     /  23rd September 2020

    Just been surveyed by the Labour party pollster UMR and there were maybe 30 questions in there and the first one was do you have a favourable opinion of “this” company then all the other questions were politics.
    Its clearly a panic from last nights debate with the fig leaf of a corporate client survey, so expect a leak if labour are plus 48% or utter silence and a policy release from them on funding drugs that arent a decade out of date as they do at the moment.
    I did say that Covid was the number 1 issue but that doesnt mean I think Ardern would do a better job than Collins, I dont.

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    • duperez

       /  23rd September 2020

      When do you think they panicked about last night’s poll and decided to ring around?

      Since it was clearly a panic and all.😂

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    • Duker

       /  23rd September 2020

      UMR always do regular survey for corporate client s labour can’t afford the expensive and results exclusive to them that DPF Group polling does for National ..Curia is a non operating company, I don’t why Farrar pretends that that’s his operating company.
      Judith has yo explain to Caucus why the normally ‘good numbers’ CB is only 31%, the other polls could be below 30% for national…

      Any way isn’t this the 3rd time you have said UMR have polled you ……something doesn’t add up

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  9. Duker

     /  23rd September 2020

    The guy who has pinged for making it up over Covid is now going for a twofer for the election
    Even Farrar says excluding Greens still has Nats Act 10% short
    Wonder why the Herald won’t even run Mikey’s morning mind teasers

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