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  1. Corky

     /  24th September 2020

    I couldn’t help it. I had to watch TV1 for their coverage of the debate. As usual from my perspective, they were biased. Their ‘what the man in the street thought,’ must surely be edited. Two young drongos were interviewed, They said they started to watch but didn’t really understand. But they said they will be going hardout for Jacinda. And people wonder why I don’t vote.

    The other very unprofessional coverage was that of Winston on the campaign trail. The lead in describing him parroting his usual stuff may have been true, but it was presented in a unprofessional manner in my view. It showed Peters and Jones talking to an exotic bird. Jones was a absolute buffoon. Laughing and giggling…and then being shown downing what looked like a beer. The black hat didn’t help. I think deep down Jones is enjoying the last vestiges of public office before being consigned to the kaumatua flats.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  24th September 2020

      In an unusual move Netanyahu takes his dirty laundry to Washington when visiting on diplomatic visits. Apparently the US government offers a free laundry service to visitor staying at the US Presidents guesthouse.

      “Over the years, the Israeli leader has developed a reputation among the staff at the U.S. president’s guesthouse for bringing special cargo on his trips to Washington: bags and suitcases full of dirty laundry, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/benjamin-netanyahu-us-visits-dirty-laundry/2020/09/23/8407f52c-fdb3-11ea-830c-a160b331ca62_story.html#click=https://t.co/uKbVWHGqiM

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  24th September 2020

        Apparently the Netanyahu’s laundry bills in Israel are state secrets and can’t be accessed by the freedom of information legislation.

        “In 2016, Netanyahu sued his own office and Israel’s attorney general in an effort to prevent the release of his laundry bills under the country’s freedom of information act. The judge sided with Netanyahu, and the details of his laundry bills remain secret.”

        Source as above.

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  3. Patzcuaro

     /  24th September 2020

    If you want a level headed President it is a no brainer.

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    • Blazer

       /  24th September 2020

      pretty stupid question…really.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  24th September 2020

      Ex Republican Presidential candidate John McCain’s widow remains a Republican but endorses Joe Biden.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  24th September 2020

        Hardly a secret that McCain and Trump loathed each other, Patz. McCain was a RINO.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  24th September 2020

          So who in their right mind respects Trump??

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  24th September 2020

          Looks like there are 2 wings in the Republican Party, the Rhinos and the RINOs. You probably could make a case that the Rhinos are in reality RINO, living in some alternative reality out in right field.

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      • David

         /  24th September 2020

        McCain was a warmonger

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  24th September 2020

          Maybe but an infinitely better human being than the one that occupies the White House.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  24th September 2020

            On what basis? Obviously about half the US voters disagree. McCain lost, Trump won and may well win again. Trump is more popular with workers, Blacks and Latinos because he has done more for them. He hasn’t killed as many people and has ended wars rather than started them.

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            • Patzcuaro

               /  24th September 2020

              Trump might not be killing people overseas but he is doing his best to incite a civil war a home.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  24th September 2020

              It’s taken two for that tango. Pelosi & Co started it as soon as they had a House majority.

            • Patzcuaro

               /  24th September 2020

              Why did they get a majority in the House, maybe because Trump offended suburban women, if he was doing such a wonderful job the Republicans would still have the trifecta.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  25th September 2020

              The media and FBI were somewhat successful in smearing him with their sustained attacks. Suburban women were always with Hillary. His supporters are less motivated to vote in the congressional elections when he is not on the ballot.

        • Patzcuaro

           /  24th September 2020

          The Republican Party seems to have more than its fair share of warmongers, Bush & Cheney’s adventures in the Middle East have caused more problems than they solved.

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      • FarmerPete

         /  24th September 2020

        Given that McCain was a prime mover in the Russian dossier hoax it is hardly surprising that his wife would not support Trump. Old news and who cares anyway!

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        • Duker

           /  24th September 2020

          Any evidence of that claim ….

          and no mention of the Biden son hoax and Ukraine which Trump went to extraordinary lengths to ‘promote’
          So its OK when its Trump doing the full hoax, one of many

          https://news.yahoo.com/senate-report-fails-implicate-joe-153759093.html
          ‘Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son Hunter was involved in questionable business dealings in China and Ukraine, but there was no sign of improper influence by the former vice president, a Senate Republican report said Wednesday…… also did not find that Joe Biden altered US policy or took other actions to assist Hunter.”

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    • Corky

       /  24th September 2020

      I agree. Trump by a country mile.

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    • FarmerPete

       /  24th September 2020

      Except that Biden’s brain is compromised if his mumblings and stuttering are any guide.

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      • Duker

         /  24th September 2020

        Biden has a speech impediemnt.
        Trump just has an empty brain
        “”But then the — then the virus came in and the world is a different place but we’re now getting back and one of the reasons the market’s doing so — it’s almost at the point that it was at prior to the plague — almost.”

        ‘”Because you talk about a certain power of the telephone and the calls where they would call and say, no, we don’t want to do that.”
        “”Now, the testing is a good thing but at the same time it’s fodder for the fake news to report cases.”
        ‘ “But Hunter, where’s Hunter? Where is Hunter, by the way?” “And [Hunter Biden] was unemployed as you know, he was unfortunately forced to leave the military — he was forced to leave. Didn’t have a job and all of a sudden he’s making a fortune.”
        should Trump be going on at all about “b>other peoples military service
        Hes actually highly educated and worked in Finance for large banks and investment companies

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        • Harry

           /  24th September 2020

          “Speech impediment” lol – is that a new term for dementia? Biden can barely read words off a screen.

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          • Duker

             /  24th September 2020

            Yes thats what its called for Biden , its been a lifelong thing
            https://niemanreports.org/articles/biden-stutter/

            Explain this from Trump
            “Because you talk about a certain power of the telephone and the calls where they would call and say, no, we don’t want to do that.”
            Your explanation is what ?
            he has the mind of a child ….is that good ?

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  4. Duker

     /  24th September 2020

    Hooton shows some Judith love
    “, Hooton said. He revealed that Collins and Muller attempted to roll Bridges in April 2019, with Collins as a leader and Muller as deputy, but they couldn’t get the numbers.
    …..Hmmm so when it came later they dropped Collins ( too unliked) and put Muller in front and Nikki Kay on board

    “In fact, Hooton said that Collins is the right person for the job, and Bridges should have never been in the job.

    “She should have become leader when English stood down. She even possibly should have become prime minister when Key stood down.”

    However, Hooton said National’s secret polling shows there’s a segment of the population who loves Jacinda Ardern so much – that if Judith Collins were to lay in to her too hard, even National supporters won’t vote blue.

    “If they criticise Ardern too harshly, they will actually go down. There are other people who want her to get stuck into Ardern, but there are good reasons not to.”
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12367438

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    • Corky

       /  24th September 2020

      ”However, Hooton said National’s secret polling shows there’s a segment of the population who loves Jacinda Ardern so much – that if Judith Collins were to lay in to her too hard, even National supporters won’t vote blue.”

      I picked up on those sentiments watching One News last night. Personally, I think Judith should lay into Jacinda and forego this election. Judith should make a statement that she is about leadership and not popularity. That’s counter intuitive, and won’t fly at this election ( Hooton is right). However, it will resonate with voters mid term if Labours is back in office.
      By that time those halfwits who go gaga over Jacinda will have had their standard of living trimmed. Jacinda’s gushing sentiments will no longer have sway.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  24th September 2020

        I agree. The Jacinda fan club need to see her trampled on the floor. Going soft on her is never going to work and will just perpetuate her illusion.

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        • Duker

           /  24th September 2020

          Dont be silly . Key had the same effect on a large segment , as Kim Dotcom found out, Nationals election result increased because of all his attacks and the big reveal etc
          National knew that about Key and would play up those who wanted to ‘publicly’ destroy him and it worked for them for years .
          I think that Hooton etc are smarter about what the public think than Wilco and they know its too late to change established views. Even that Bridges was destined to fail, much like Little

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  24th September 2020

            Dotcom never put Key on the floor.

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          • Corky

             /  24th September 2020

            ”Don’t be silly . Key had the same effect on a large segment , as Kim Dotcom found out.”

            That’s true to a degree. Although I never saw the absolute sycophancy that’s being showered on Jacinda..being likewise showered on Key. Jacinda is in a class of here own.

            Two things: John Key was a leader of substance. He lead a talent-rich government that had substance. Jacinda has none of that.

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            • Duker

               /  24th September 2020

              Yes it was . …. Key did all the emoting and grieving at every tragedy … Pike River included, making big promises which he later broke and lied about it
              Hosking was a complete synchophant….. you just think it was normal

            • Duker

               /  24th September 2020

              ” John Key was a leader of substance.He lead a talent-rich government that had substance. ”
              hahahah.
              ….sycophancy proved.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  24th September 2020

              Another day, another raft of Duker ad hominems.

            • Duker

               /  24th September 2020

              he called Key a leader of substance?

              You mean like the Auckland harbour Tunnel that Key promised in 2013 would be completed in 2028 ( 15 years later)
              Collins has now newly said the harbour tunnel is to’start construction’ …you guessed it in 2028
              Key is a man of hot air
              And again
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11271474
              yesterday I showed his leaked talking points from a few years back (2014) which wasnt a speech but just the chatter with the media standups.
              ““Our condolences go out to the family of the person killed”, “Clearly this is a terrible tragedy”, and “People will be shocked that the suspects are so young”.
              It had to be prewritten for him by his staff.
              A man of pre-scripted emotions!

            • How do you know whether he wrote those things or not ? Why would anyone care ?

  5. FarmerPete

     /  24th September 2020

    Just looked at online NZ newspapers and saw pics of Jacinda laying a wreath at the Christchurch mosque and again breaching her own social distancing guidelines.

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    • Duker

       /  24th September 2020

      Thats because the wreath laying was way back in early march for the first anniversary …..

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      • FarmerPete

         /  24th September 2020

        Yes, your correct about that photo, but the unveiling of the plaque (today) also shows the same issue.

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        • Duke

           /  24th September 2020

          Yes its a plaque TODAY

          Did you not know that all South Island is now Level 1 , so distancing not required .

          keep up your national party inspired baseless attacks it just keeps the numbers high for Labour

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          • Duker

             /  24th September 2020

            TVNZ lunch time news showed Collins at meeting surrounded by supporters, as they can do. No one wanting selfies though

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          • FarmerPete

             /  24th September 2020

            That is correct, but Jacinda is from the NI.

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            • The C19 website says that people should observe it even at L1 when they are with people they don’t know…but it seems not to apply to the PM.

            • Duker

               /  24th September 2020

              If thats the case why isnt Collins doing it. let me guess what town she is from
              The North Island is also level 1 , except Auckland.

            • Have you only just discovered that ? Do try to keep up.

              She was in Matamata; her home town.

            • Duker

               /  24th September 2020

              Ardern lives in Auckland …just as Collins does
              You are thinking of 25 years ago
              Are you close to ‘the river’

            • Blazer

               /  24th September 2020

              I thought Morrinsville was her home town….

  6. lurcher1948

     /  24th September 2020

    Controversies
    In March 2014, Collins was accused of a conflict of interest after an overseas trip where she ‘dropped in’ and endorsed the milk produced by Oravida – a New Zealand company which exports to China – of which her husband is a director. After being admonished by the Prime Minister, Collins apologised and stated that she and a Chinese executive were ‘very close personal friends’.[51][52][53] Over the following weeks the Labour Party continued asking who the Chinese official was. Collins did not provide his name, which House speaker David Carter described as “very unsatisfactory”.[54] Prime Minister John Key stated publicly that Judith Collins was on her final warning over this incident.[55]

    In August 2014 the book Dirty Politics, written by Nicky Hager, revealed that Collins was friends with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater and had passed on private information to him about Simon Pleasants, a public servant at Internal Affairs. Collins believed Pleasants had leaked information about Deputy Prime Minister Bill English misusing his housing allowance. Slater published Mr Pleasant’s name and details on his blog as well as the abuse and death threats that were subsequently directed at Mr Pleasants.[56] A 3News-Reid Research poll taken at the time revealed that 63% of voters believed Prime Minister John Key should have stood Collins down over this incident.[57] Key said Collins had been ‘unwise’ and placed on her second final warning.[5
    And the right call PM Jacinda Ardern a communist..due to her saying comrade at a young socialist conference

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  24th September 2020

    To be fair to the righties here, here’s the comrade clip…

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    • Duker

       /  24th September 2020

      Isnt that balanced by Judiths meetings with the Comrades of Oravida in Communist China …all while on a taxpayer funded junket

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      • Hardly a junket; it would seem that you don’t know the difference between a government trip and a holiday. The fact that someone’s working in another country doesn’t mean it’s a ‘junket’.

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    • duperez

       /  24th September 2020

      Clear evidence that she intends for there to be a Communist takeover of the world I’d say. Heck, it she scrapes in for another term she’ll be well on the way to being Stalin.

      Our clever dog might not yet be up to the coronavirus thing yet amongst her discernment but I’m sure we can get her tuned to identiytintg Reds under Beds. No doubt there are few around here who still tremble in their beds and check every night … just in case. 😊

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=12367506

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  24th September 2020

    Sorry Duker i commented on Ms Collins,im moderated so heres the clip
    .https://youtu.be/Jkp6q9hKC6M

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  9. Duker

     /  24th September 2020

    Side list says theres a recent comment from Duperez, thats gone too

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  10. Corky

     /  24th September 2020

    The PM is is back to her best. Kowtowing to Islam( Many ex Muslim women activists have asked Jacinda not to wear the head scarf), and talking about hate speech. One Muslim dude said he wants a law that defines free speech and hate speech.

    Like I try to tell such people…there is no such thing as hate speech. Good to see Judith and Dave tell the PM what she can do with her hate speech legislation aspirations.

    This is the problem with socialists…they have to control. They can’t help themselves.

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  11. MaureenW

     /  24th September 2020

    Today’s stupid Donald Trump story about peaceful transfers of power should he lose the election.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/300116128/trump-wont-commit-to-peaceful-transfer-of-power-if-he-loses-november-election

    I see stupid Harry and Meghan are chipping in on the US elections too, I would have thought there was plenty for them to go on with in tidying up the British Royal family, but there’s a stupid story published about them every day, yet nothing on Prince Andrew.

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