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  1. lurcher1948

     /  28th September 2020

    A question is Peter Wiliams,on Magic Radio the “Alan Jones” of NZ? or is there a more rightwing media person out there.

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    • Gerrit

       /  28th September 2020

      Where is your problem? If you don’t like him, change to anyone on national radio. Is a commentator entitled to their opinion and are they free to express said opinion?

      I would be more worried if I were you, with the Labour “hate speech” laws. Soon we wont be able to speak what we think. And that goes for the left as well as the right.

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      • I can’t stand Patrick Gower (he’s even more annoying in the flesh, believe it or not)

        Simple solution; I don’t watch him.

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      • Corky

         /  28th September 2020

        Poor old Lurchy. He’s a poster boy for the Left’s dirty little secret – they secretly love RIGHTwing media. They get to self flagellate. Have some excitment. And become offended.
        You won’t get all three anywhere else.😄

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      • lurcher1948

         /  28th September 2020

        Corky,I’m not a poster boy,im an old fart (pensioner) and i don’t really care about your dribble..lots of. dribble

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  2. David

     /  28th September 2020

    Interesting coirt filings in the General Flynn case regarding the FBI investigation. It was stopped in Novemeber because there was nothing there and when it was re opened by Biden the FBI agents went and got liability insurance, correspondence between agents was scathing of the political reasons for investigating where there was no evidence

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    • Duker

       /  28th September 2020

      Thats not the case, he was given a soft plea deal because of his senior position as a military intelligence general, the evidence was a lot stronger than the plea deal indicated.

      “Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI about conversations he had had with Russia’s then-ambassador to the United States as he and the rest of President-elect Donald Trump’s camp waited in the wings early in 2017.
      That case appeared clear. But the former Army lieutenant general also had been involved with other enterprises that might have resulted in more charges — including undisclosed foreign lobbying — and his deal with prosecutors swept that off the table.
      It also apparently avoided prospective charges for Flynn’s son. Flynn and his attorneys considered the deal to be the least bad way out of the jam. “

      The real problem eventually when they went to court for sentence was the Judge who was unexpectedly hard nosed

      “But the judge yielded surprises and headlines with his spirited remarks about the case.
      “I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain, for this criminal offense,” he said.
      Sullivan asked prosecutors whether Flynn might have committed “treason,” raising the prospect that Flynn might get prison time after all. No, the government said, it didn’t consider that part of the case.
      Ultimately, Sullivan deferred the sentencing because he said he had more questions about the matter, adding more months to Flynn’s legal saga.
      If Sullivan had issued a sentence then and resolved Flynn’s case, Flynn’s admissions and guilt might have stood. His legal odyssey might have ended there.”

      https://www.npr.org/2020/05/08/852582068/mike-flynn-pleaded-guilty-why-is-the-justice-department-dropping-the-charges

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      • David

         /  28th September 2020

        You may wish to update your database. The Federalist has a good summary and the text message details between FBI agents.
        All filed last week to the court.

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        • Duker

           /  28th September 2020

          FBI doesnt prosecute , thats up to the prosecutors who handle the case…chatter between agents doesnt mean anything

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      • FarmerPete

         /  28th September 2020

        Sorry, but you are so far off the mark, I feel embarrassed for you. There has been a stream of revelations proving that Flynn did not lie but was coerced into pleading he had as the FBI threatened his son. Further disclosures in the last month reveal that the FBI knew they had no case against Flynn but ploughed ahead anyway in order to get Trump.
        And by the way chatter between agents show motivation and bias.
        There will be much more to come on this saga before it’s over.

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  3. David

     /  28th September 2020

    Biden has been off the campaign trail for 10 of the last 13 days.
    Hidin his way to victory ?

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  28th September 2020

      Or just being sensible in the age of COVID, Biden doesn’t want to unnecessarily expose his followers to risk of infection which can’t be said for the other candidate who doesn’t care about his followers.

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    • Duker

       /  28th September 2020

      Biden won the democratic nomination the same way.
      hes doing more events than David mentions.

      And of course Trump got his message out last election on TWITTER…no appearances required

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  28th September 2020

        Except that Trump campaigned in critical states harder and more often than Hillary, often to large rallies. You really do spout utter nonsense.

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        • Duker

           /  28th September 2020

          Thats false. Wisconsin was only state that Clinton had lower than expected numbers, in critical others she did better than Obama
          Trump bought out the ‘uneducated white vote’ overwhelming for him. Some rural areas that were never democratic territory anyway went from 60% Republican to 80%.
          That was the small margin , and it was very very small that gave Trump victory.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  28th September 2020

            None of that had any relevance to my comment and its context.

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            • Duker

               /  28th September 2020

              The counterfactual of campaigning in critical states harder doesnt stack up…. its a national campaign that he didnt expect to win. Only small numbers ‘see’ a candidate visiting the state, and its often just an afternoon…the voters make their minds up from the whole campaign experience.
              Your hindsight makes everything Trump did ‘significant’

  4. Duker

     /  28th September 2020

    the Chickens have come home to roost
    “The financial pressure on him is increasing as hundreds of millions of dollars in loans he personally guaranteed are soon coming due”

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  5. 3 news had an article about a survey; one question was about C19 being man-made..20% agreed, and even some people on the street believed it.

    I don’t KNOW that it wasn’t made in a lab, but it seems extremely unlikely !!!

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  6. Corky

     /  28th September 2020

    Meanwhile in the bowels of Labour HQ:

    Trainer:
    Jacinda, we have the media on our side. Paddy will be in our corner come the debate. But we will need more from you this time around. The consensus is you lost the last debate. You will need to find your ”inner bitch” and put that ‘Painted Tory Has-Been’ away, once and for all.

    You have everything going for you: you are young and vibrant. The world loves you, New Zealand loves you. The animals love you. You have a groovy toddler with a cool name. And you have substance… ???!! OK, I need to be honest, prime minister – you don’t have a lot of substance. But that’s not important because…

    Jacinda:
    The average voter is as thick as pigshite?

    Trainer: Bingo! Go get ’em gurl.

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    • Duker

       /  28th September 2020

      First stage of grief : denial
      Best if you get help for your looming loss, come election evening you may be overwhelmed . Take care and be kind

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      • Corky

         /  28th September 2020

        Lol. the first stage of grief for you will be Labour winning the election.😄

        Of course, I can’t talk for other Righties who may be upset. But as they watch events unfold, they will realize what I already know.

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    • Blazer

       /  28th September 2020

      Talofa Corky…its not over,until its…over.

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  7. Blazer

     /  28th September 2020

    Tax is for…poor people…

    read://https_www.stuff.co.nz/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stuff.co.nz%2Fworld%2Famericas%2F300118308%2Fnew-york-times-us-president-donald-trump-paid-750-in-us-income-taxes-in-2016-2017

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  28th September 2020

    Trump wants Joe Biden to take a drug test before the debates,so i think its only fair that Trump shows his tax returns,i see he doesn’t pay taxes,that will go down like a bucket of cold sick with USA taxpayers…

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  9. Corky

     /  28th September 2020

    New Zealand is changing under the stress of Covid. While the maximum impact on the middclass and wealthy is still to arrive, the poor are already feeling the pressure.

    Two observations:

    Wandering through a poor suburb I was astounded to see the amount of cars parked on properties since I was last in that area. Given I doubt these folk have all won Lotto, it would fair to assume they have boarders or family staying. Overcrowding is nothing new in poor housing areas. But what I saw was a whole level. And given the lush energy payments end this week, I’m betting on a bleak violent filled Xmas break fo many of these folk.

    At my supermarket, Monday morning now sees huge amounts of discounted meat that hasn’t sold. They have re ordered the shelves so one whole length of the supermarket wall now has shelving dedicated to potato chips and other similar items. No prizes as to what has taken the place of meat. The delicatessen has also be disestablished.

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  10. duperez

     /  28th September 2020

    Well I never, New Zealand is changing under Covid.

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    • Corky

       /  28th September 2020

      True..but not the way you think it is.

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      • duperez

         /  28th September 2020

        I’ll await some oracle to tell me all about it. No doubt your friend Mike will help in that regard in a sort of ‘after match review.’ sort of style.

        If the apoplexy about road cones and public transport don’t get him first. 😊

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        • Corky

           /  28th September 2020

          If I was in your situation…I would have just kept quiet. But no, I guess you must be a Hive throw away.

          You hang around now. You and Duker are to be my whipping boys.

          ps- Lol

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