UK – the murder of Sgt Matiu Ratana

Missy has posted from the UK on the murder of Sgt Matiu Ratana at Croydon Police station.

Hi All, Yes it is yet another (very rare) post from the UK.

This week we have moved on from COVID (sort of) and have other stories. For those interested I will summarise most of what has been happening in the UK over the last few months in a series of posts for all.

First, one of the main stories early this week was the murder of Sgt Matiu Ratana at Croydon Police station. This has shocked everyone on a number of levels, mostly though because it happened in what should be a (relatively) safe area for police.

There has been a lot of comment on this, and whilst the Met Police have not officially commented until the investigation and internal inquiry have been completed, many former police have been happy to comment publicly. One former police officer said that full searches are unable to be undertaken in public (ie: outside police stations), so when he was arrested he would have been patted down, but not searched, and as it appears the weapon was hidden in an intimate area they would not have found it at arrest.

The suspect was handcuffed, some media are suggesting behind the back but my understanding is that the handcuff in the front now as it is less stressful for the person being handcuffed (I could be wrong, I heard that third hand).

The suspect had just had his temperature taken for COVID check, and was about to be searched with a metal detector to check for weapons when he pulled the gun, he shot Sgt Ratana five times before shooting himself. The suspect has been named, and was apparently ‘good with weapons’ as well as being on the terrorist watch list.

His death, on first look and information provided so far, appears to have been due to a failure in police procedure.

The High Commissioner for NZ laid a wreath today in his memory, and a condolence book has been opened.

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8 Comments

  1. NOEL

     /  2nd October 2020

    Front cuffing is to allow the apprehended to protect thier head in a fall.

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    • Duker

       /  2nd October 2020

      With the cuffs on behind the back doesnt that allow the officer to hold the person as they ‘walk them forward’, but that would be for compliant people. Arrested people taking off would always be a problem.
      That clip the other day of trumps former campaign manager being tackled to the ground ( after not complying to get on the ground) was part of the procedure to have them prone so they can be handcuffed and searched for weapons

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  2. Corky

     /  2nd October 2020

    ”The suspect has been named, and was apparently ‘good with weapons’ as well as being on the terrorist watch list.”

    For a country at war with Islam, how slack can you get? I’m ASSUMING he was associated with Islam.

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  3. We heard a lot about this tragedy on the news here, Missy, probably as much as you did. The fact that it’s so rare there and here to have a police officer murdered is cold comfort when it happens. De mortuis nil nisi bonum, but he sounded like a really good bloke.

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  4. Brian Johnston

     /  2nd October 2020

    This story is very sketchy on detail. Not good.
    Who is Matiu Ratana
    In which country did the incident take place. Assume England. London maybe.
    Where is Croydon police station.
    Handcuffed? How did he get to concealed gun.
    Was he handcuffed.
    He sounds dangerous.
    Was Ratana on his own.
    Too many questions.
    The first thing to cross my mind is fake news. Possibly not.
    We need detail before we start making comments and jumping to conclusions.
    I like facts.
    Commiserations to Matiu’s family.
    I hope the shooter survives and is dealt with appropriately.
    Pity the UK does not have the death penalty. Or does it.

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    • Duker

       /  2nd October 2020

      What nonsense BJ….
      For the others who read it , thanks missy

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    • Missy

       /  4th October 2020

      “Who is Matiu Ratana”. A Police Sgt with the Metropolitian Police

      “In which country did the incident take place. Assume England. London maybe.” The UK

      “Where is Croydon police station.” South London

      “Handcuffed? How did he get to concealed gun.“. Currently under investigation by the Police Independent Complaints Commission, however

      “Was he handcuffed.” All reporting say he was

      “He sounds dangerous.” Hence why he was being arrested….

      “Was Ratana on his own.” The reports said that he received immediate first aid and paramedics were called, so it appears not as I doubt he rendered his own aid or called the ambulance.

      “Too many questions.” There are some questions but we won’t have those answers until after the police investigation

      “The first thing to cross my mind is fake news. Possibly not.“. 🙄.

      “We need detail before we start making comments and jumping to conclusions.” You mean like suggesting it is fake news? That type of comment and jumping to conclusions?

      “Pity the UK does not have the death penalty. Or does it.” No, it does not.

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