Ardern versus Collins in online Stuff debate tonight

Another leaders debate to be live streamed at 7 pm tonight.

Stuff: Jacinda Ardern and Judith Collins go round three in The Press Leaders Debate tonight

Jacinda Ardern and Judith Collins are in Christchurch tonight for the South Island’s only election debate, live on Stuff from 7pm.

It will be moderated on Tuesday evening by The Press editor Kamala Hayman and Stuff’s political editor Luke Malpass. The Press is part of the Stuff family of newspapers.

The Press Leaders Debate will be held with a lively sold-out audience of 750 at the James Hay Theatre.

The debate will be split in half with a 15-minute intermission, when Stuff’s head of video Carol Hirschfeld will discuss the debate with Canterbury Employers Chamber of Commerce CEO Leeann Watson and Canterbury University senior political lecturer Dr Lindsey Te Ata o Tu MacDonald.

Henry Cooke will also live blog the debate here.


Casting the live stream worked for a short time but them went wonky so i mostly just listened to it streaming on my PC.

Ardern was generally very good. There was plenty of under-achievements she could have been challenged on but that wasn’t done very well.

This was Collins’ worst debate. She started too shouty, and then she seemed to fluctuate between loud and weak with a bit too much smarmy thrown in. Her repeated reference to her opponent as Miss Ardern sounds out of whack this century. Generally I think she didn’t come across very well for a lot of the debate.

Ardern attacked much less but when she did she made it count.

This won’t have anywhere near the audience as the televised debates, which is probably just as well for Collins and for National. Especially with their ongoing ructions in the party I don’t see how they can get close to Labour.

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  1. Corky

     /  6th October 2020

    Heard a soundbite on the news. Judith was getting here lumps from the audience. Sounds like the place was full of liberals. To be fair, the report said both leaders received derision.
    But for the newsbite it was the usual ‘ bash the Right.’

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    • Blazer

       /  6th October 2020

      As Ardern mentioned the fact checker will be busy after the debate.

      Collins true blue Nats obsfucation and…worse.

      Despicable,insincere creature is’ talofa’ Collins.

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    • Blazer

       /  7th October 2020

      Talofa….Judith said she would increase spending,cut taxes,and shrink the deficit…..and that under her leadership NZ would begin a manned space operation.:)

      I nominate David Seymour as a potential astronaut.

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    • Fight4nz

       /  7th October 2020

      “ But for the newsbite it was the usual ‘ bash the Right.’”
      Collins has been given favourable reviews at previous debates, multiple positive news coverage of her campaign plus several cameos. It was refreshing to have a balanced audience to call out her bs for a change.
      Not to mention 9 years of slavish brown nosing of Key while his memory failed.

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  2. John J Harrison

     /  6th October 2020

    Corky, not wrong.
    I was very disappointed that notes were allowed to read from.
    Apart from that a good robust debate.
    But what the hell was the first 4 minutes wasted on a welcome in Maori that less than 1% of the audience would understand.
    Personally, I find that insulting and totally patronizing to a militant and vociferous minority.

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    • Corky

       /  6th October 2020

      The gods of cultural correctness must be acknowledged in Aotearoa, John. it makes liberals feel good. Of course, to be ”for Maori’ is so cool, no matter how many facts point to Maoridom being not so cool in many regards.

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  3. duperez

     /  6th October 2020

    Bit of a bugger being in Aotearoa and they’re speaking that Maori stuff, what, old chap.

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    • Corky

       /  6th October 2020

      Old boy , it’s all about appropriateness and timing. We are talking politics for all. Rest assured when you are on the marae you must follow kawa. A hiding waits for the ignorant.
      Surely we don’t need a Maori welcome for a political debate. That should be part of the kawa for general debates watched by all NZers….what, what?

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      • Blazer

         /  7th October 2020

        Do you still have to stand at the movies while they play…’God Save the Queen’?

        Oh no thats right…thats been discarded.

        The National Anthem is rolled out for everything from a hockey match to a race at…Te Rapa.

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        • Corky

           /  7th October 2020

          ”Do you still have to stand at the movies while they play…’God Save the Queen’?”

          Last time I stood for the Queen was 1973 at the Mt Maunganui picture theatre. I believe it was a James Bond film with the film score written by Paul McCartney.

          The Japanese sailors were an annoyance. Standing, then sitting and standing again.

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