Trump and White House Covid crisis

After months of playing down the severity and risks of Covid the virus has hit home to Trump (or at least should have), after he, his wife and a number of close aides testing positive over the last few days.

The latest positives are Trump’s ‘body man’ (who accompanies the president day and night) assistant Nicholas Luna and White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany.

Reuters Factbox: White House staff, top Republicans who have tested positive for COVID-19

It is not being disclosed how many White House staff have tested positive, and information about the severity of Trump’s condition is being deliberate withheld, with a number of contradictory reports confusing the situation.

Reuters: Severity of Trump’s illness unclear four weeks ahead of election

President Donald Trump on Monday began a fourth day of treatment for COVID-19 at a military hospital outside Washington, with the severity of his illness unclear barely four weeks before Americans go to the polls to decide whether to reelect him.

Doctors at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, are treating Trump, 74, with a steroid, dexmethasone, that is normally used only in the most severe cases. Trump was running a high fever on Friday and had been given supplemental oxygen after his blood oxygen levels dropped, Dr. Sean P. Conley, the White House physician, said on Sunday.

But the Republican president’s medical team, which has painted a rosy picture of his condition, will weigh whether he can leave the hospital later on Monday, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Fox News, adding that he was optimistic Trump would be discharged.

Even if discharged, Trump will need to continue treatment as he is still undergoing a five-day course of an intravenous antiviral drug, remdesivir. The normal quarantine period for anyone testing positive for the novel coronavirus is 14 days.

Trump put his ego head of his security staff by going on a drive by to have fans wave and cheer. This will have also made things difficult for staff caring for Trump.

The treatment regime being given to Trump suggests his condition is not minor. It has been suggested Trump may be discharged from hospital on Monday (US time), but that would really just be transferring to near hospital conditions at the White House, with intravenous treatment continuing.

This has impacted on Trump’s campaign, that can’t be avoided. While he might attract some sympathy votes he also risks losing support with a significant show of vulnerability and stupidity in how he has dealt with Covid.

FiveThirtyEight: Will Trump’s Diagnosis Change the Way Republicans Think About COVID-19?

In a Reuters/Ipsos poll, for instance, they found that 67 percent of registered voters agreed that if Trump had taken the coronavirus more seriously, he probably wouldn’t have been infected, including about 9 in 10 Democrats and half of all Republicans.

Meanwhile, a Yahoo News/YouGov poll found that 52 percent of registered voters didn’t trust Trump to give accurate info about his health and his COVID-19 treatment.

And Politico/Morning Consult found that 56 percent of Americans did not trust Trump to give accurate updates on his health.

The severity of Trump’s illness may not be clear for another week or two Covid has a reputation for lingering and getting worse with people badly afflicted. Trump will be receiving the best medical care he wants to get, but that may or not work well for him.

RealClear Politics: One Month Out, Battered Trump Campaign Faces Big Challenges

President Donald Trump’s long-hidden tax returns leaked out. His first debate performance ignited a firestorm over white supremacy. He was hospitalized for COVID-19 after months of playing down the threat of a pandemic that has killed more than 200,000 Americans.

Trump’s reelection team, battered on all sides, now enters the final month of the campaign grappling with deficits in the polls, a shortage of cash and a candidate who is at least temporarily sidelined.

The crises, many of Trump’s own making, have come so quickly that they are hard to keep straight.

Recordings revealed that he acknowledged minimizing the dangers of the coronavirus earlier this year. A blockbuster story raised questions over whether he privately belittled members of the military. And even the first lady was captured on tape expressing disdain for having to decorate the White House for Christmas.

The president’s team is launching what it calls “Operation MAGA” to propel his campaign forward, even as he was being treated Sunday at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Although Trump’s medical team raised the possibility that he could be released as early as Monday, significant questions remained about the president’s health and schedule.

The challenges facing the reelection team are enormous.

Both heads of Trump’s political apparatus — campaign manager Bill Stepien and Republican National Committee head Ronna McDaniel — tested positive for COVID-19 this week. Also infected: several outside advisers who had been involved in the president’s debate preparations last week, including former White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

Deputy campaign manager Justin Clark is temporarily overseeing the campaign’s headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. Stepien organized a late Saturday staff call to project an optimistic tone, even as he acknowledged the loss of the campaign’s “best asset,” the president.

Trying to portray positives is an obviously difficult situation risks looking like the knight in the Holy Grail movie.

Vice President Mike Pence outlined plans to launch a new effort to ramp up campaign appearances by Trump lieutenants who haven’t been infected. Pence himself will star in the new effort, in addition to Trump’s children. Pence promised that he and the first family would begin fanning out across the country aggressively in person after Wednesday’s vice presidential debate.

“We’ve got a campaign to run,” Pence said. “I promise you, this president, as soon as his doctors say so, he’s going to be back out there.”

The standard quarantine period for someone with Covid is 14 days, providing they get over it quickly. There may be a negative reaction oif the normal rules are not applied to trump and his campaign staff.

The president’s hospitalization also underscores what has long been the Trump campaign’s greatest challenge: its inability to shift the national discourse away from the virus. For months, even as the campaign has tried to frame the election as a choice between Trump and Biden, the race has been perceived largely as a referendum on the president’s handling of the pandemic.

And Trump’s tone on the virus has changed little despite his illness. In a video released late Saturday from the hospital, he expressed no contrition for his handling of the virus and still spoke of quickly moving beyond the pandemic.

The rush to campaign again is as risky as being a threat to Trump’s health and even his life – and the health of others. Biden has been a lot more sensible about Covid than Trump and won’t want to put himself at risk, so further debates may not happen – or if they do happen with Trump in some sort of obvious isolation it will be difficult for Trump to avoid his handling of Covid.

Trump is a chaos candidate at the best of times, but it is an abnormally chaotic year in the US. Anything could happen – not only is political power at risk, health and even lives are at risk, and Trump is currently the centre of attention on that right now. It won’t help that an increasing number of his key staff are testing positive and having to isolate as well.

Twitter is again getting a workout from Trump, but that has largely lost it’s novelty and shock value. It’s going to be a tough month for him.

Elsewhere in the world Covid is far from over. One in 10 may have caught COVID, as world heads into ‘difficult period’: WHO

Mike Ryan, the WHO’s top emergency expert, was addressing the agency’s Executive Board, where the United States made a thinly veiled swipe at China for what it called a “failure” to provide accurate and timely information on the outbreak.

Ryan said that outbreaks were surging in parts of southeast Asia and that cases and deaths were on the rise in parts of Europe and the eastern Mediterranean region.

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42 Comments

  1. John J Harrison

     /  6th October 2020

    Not only a tough month for Trump but a tough year coming up.
    Irrespective of Covid , Trump will lose the election and the Republicans will lose the senate.
    Biden will enjoy a Pyrrhic victory as Harris will become President before June due to Biden’s cognitive failures.
    Trump will be aggressively pursued by both the IRS, Southern District’s attorneys and the Federal government ending in prison time and personal bankruptcy.
    Meanwhile, the hapless Democrats will oversee the deepest recession since 1929.

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    • Blazer

       /  6th October 2020

      Been psychic long…JJ?

      What about our countrys election and next 3 years!

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    • Duker

       /  6th October 2020

      Unlikely to be Federal tax evasion, more likely to be NY state as the current legal maneuvering is by NY state for his federal tax returns for his evasion of real estate taxes and local income taxes. He would have told NY state one thing and the IRS different numbers. The IRS is already in dispute with Trump over deductions that has been going around 8 years The IRS doesnt need court approval to audit a taxpayer as they have the returns and can get more information from the accountants.
      Even though Mazars is large national firm , Trumps taxes both state and federal were done by a office in Long Island that was originally a small firm and only one partner handled his tax work full time for decades.

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  6th October 2020

    Trump’s team will play down the illness and his opposition will play it up. Situation normal.

    Looks like the medication has been effective but time will tell. It may become the gold standard treatment for a while.

    Too soon to judge the electoral outcome. The Lefty media bubble is still talking to itself.

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    • Duker

       /  6th October 2020

      Trumps narcissism has made a complete recovery as shown by the hospital drive by.

      The chances of him recovering are high as the regular testing picked it up quickly and he had medical treatment early. Would have been a different story if it was back in April May and they didnt know what to do other than a ventilator for the very sick.

      Lasting 90 min on stage for the next debate in Miami in nearly 10 days time ….no can do. he will weasel out of it , but not by saying hes ‘sick’ …some other candy floss will be whipped up to blame BIDEN . The rest of the country will laugh out loud at that attempt.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  6th October 2020

        Seems his “osteopath” did a good job?

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        • Duker

           /  6th October 2020

          A good job isnt his bungled attempt at happy talk….which still continues.
          His specialty was emergency trauma not infectious diseases…hahahaha
          Anyway in Walter Reed he comes under the care of the hospital doctors and of course other outside experts….did you think your GP comes into the hospital to take over your treatment ?

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        • Corky

           /  6th October 2020

          You can’t beat an adjustment to the Atlas and lower lumber area, Alan.

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  3. duperez

     /  6th October 2020

    Another day for the sheer beauty of politics to dance on the floor.

    Trump tweets promising tax cuts.

    Kayleigh McEnany, now a patient, “definitively” telling us about when she knew one of the inner circle had the virus.

    As is said, ‘You couldn’t make this shit up.”

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  6th October 2020

      Life is always stranger than fiction but authors still try.

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      • duperez

         /  6th October 2020

        Ya, gotta laugh though. Surely even on another lovely Northland morning there’s some magic to be appreciated by those observing and involved in the vagaries and flitterings of things political. And human.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  6th October 2020

          Eg, the UK lost track of 10,000 positive cases when their Excel spreadsheet overflowed.

          A very English fiasco. Meanwhile the French just refuse to cooperate – equally typical.

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  6th October 2020

    I notice the covid infected Trump hasn’t mentioned his wife yet,shows the importance of her in his life,its always i in his life not we.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  6th October 2020

    Jacinda our saviour

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    • You seem unaware that the MoH and thousands of others have done all the hard work while the PM gets the credit, that the promised border testing didn’t happen and C19 got back in (resulting in untold suffering in Auckland, including two deaths), that the flu vaccine fiasco resulted in who knows how many missing out on it, that the PEP balls-up resulted in many hospital workers catching it, that cancer patients are on a much longer waiting list….some saviour.

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      • Duker

         /  6th October 2020

        Hundreds are alive now because of the way covid restrictions affected everyone, from less suicides to less road deaths even fewer deaths from elective surgeries.
        I know friends who havent had their regular hospital visits for checkups , its done over the phone. tests ordered etc before hand, scans arranged . They love it instead of putting asidehours each time , 15 min on the phone…. while sitting in the lounge.
        No suitable for everyone of course but ‘telemedicine ‘ isnt going away now.

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  6. Patzcuaro

     /  6th October 2020

    Alan was referring to RINO the other day, Republicans in name only, referring to the moderate wing of the Republican Party. A case can be made that the correct term is RPINO, the Republican Party in name only as moderate Republicans start voting Democrat. The end result is that the Republican Party becomes more extreme right and the Democrats become more moderate.

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    • Duker

       /  6th October 2020

      California used to be a strong republican state ( Reagan country) while Texas was very strong Democrat…now California is overwhelmingly democrat while Texas is now more ‘leans ‘ Republican’ ( from very strong republican ) as the tide turns there like it did in California 30 years back.

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      • Duker

         /  6th October 2020

        The next democratic president after Biden could well be a democrat from Texas, a bit more middle of the road in tradition of southern democrats like Carter and Clinton

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  6th October 2020

    Trump recovers. Thousands in mourning.

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    • Corky

       /  6th October 2020

      Yes, he’s not out of the woods yet..but according to some we should have been reading his obituary around this time.

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      • Duker

         /  6th October 2020

        hehehe
        ..”isnt out of the woods yet” [thats from his doctor Sunny Jim] , as we already knew Covid is way smarter than him. he had moderate- severe symptoms , so he seems to think the new pills have cured him.
        “The F.D.A. gave remdesivir emergency clearance to treat severely sick Covid-19 patients in May, after data showed it shortened hospital stays.
        Timing was everythying for these treatments , too early and it undermines the bodys responses to later phases of the disease.

        The good news -it stopped all the mad talk from Trump supporters that its ‘just like the flu’

        Go for it Donald , do it your way, put blue lights everywhere since clearly the oxychloro thingy didnt work as a preventer…what have you got to lose… men that age are the biggest losers
        when infected ….beware the second wave of immune response which can cause organ damage in the elderly.

        Winter is coming for Trump as well , who I bet wont be seen on a golf course this year, more proof that he hadnt really fully recovered.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  6th October 2020

          False prophets are always with us.

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        • Corky

           /  6th October 2020

          ”hehehe
          ..”isnt out of the woods yet”

          What more can Duker say when he has once again been proven to be full of bs..and incapable of digesting information in front of him.😂😏✔

          Re- medicine and medical procedures…..best you leave that to people who know what they are talking about. Cut and paste doesn’t mean you know what you are talking about.

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          • Duker

             /  6th October 2020

            Covid pnuemonia …why else would they refuse to release his lung scans

            Go ahead believe your happy talk, weren’t you one of those less than a week ago was he didn’t have Covid.. hoax was put out….at 1:30 am

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          • Duker

             /  6th October 2020

            Not out of the woods …those were a direct quote from his doctor ..
            ICU nurses who see his laboured breathing in the picture on the balcony can see it’s difficult fir him to breathe.
            It’s fine for me if he’s faking it…he won’t be able to make a 90 min debate while stnading on stage, which Biden aced last time.
            Reality strikes back fir the reality show president….what will they call the presidential SUV . He parades around in …..Covid 1

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        • FarmerPete

           /  6th October 2020

          OMG. What a load of horse manure. Incoherent ramblings.

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      • Fight4nz

         /  6th October 2020

        Only the good die young.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  6th October 2020

      I don’t know that mourning is the right word, staggered by his cavalier attitude to those around him who could have been or could be infected because he refuses to self isolate. What we have is a reality TV President epitomized by is ride to nowhere while he was at the Walter Reed Hospital.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  6th October 2020

        Yes, he is a Reality TV President who performs for his audience. That’s one side of him and you have to look past it at what executive actions lie on his other side.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  6th October 2020

          Not sure if this is pay walled but it details his hospital bed pitches to voters on the issues via his tweets. These are the actions that win him votes and lie behind the Reality Show.
          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/05/donald-trumps-tweet-storm-decoded-19-all-caps-messages/

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  6th October 2020

            Paywalled, I think I got them via Twitter.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  6th October 2020

            Trump might be talking to his base but he is going to need more than his base to get him over the line, the line being the electoral college, very difficult to see him winning the popular vote. He is struggling to win over seniors and suburban women so may have to rely on voter suppression and his fallback, lying.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th October 2020

              It’s good to have your excuses for losing ready, Patz.

            • Blazer

               /  6th October 2020

              Hate to tell you Al…he has no hope of winnin g..and I don’t care ..either way.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th October 2020

              Maybe, B. Again.

          • Blazer

             /  6th October 2020

            Yet you say judge him on what he does ,not what he says….!..um he went to hospital with C19.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th October 2020

              He went, he tweated, he returned.

            • Patzcuaro

               /  6th October 2020

              @Alan don’t forget when the secret service put him in a stroller and pushed him around the block to see if they could get him to sleep

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