National, Greens may boost Labour vote

National continues to warn of the dangers of a Labour government pushed into implementing radical policies by the Greens, while the Greens keep saying they would push Labour into being ‘bolder’.

This may have the reverse effect to what both parties want – more people voting for Labour to reduce or eliminate Green influence. And going by recent polls there’s a real possibility Labour could get enough votes to either govern alone, or if they choose to govern with a majority but with a weakened Green Party in coalition.

Voting for National will probably do nothing but reduce their embarrassment a bit, they look a long way from challenging Labour even with ACT.

Voting Green will increase the chances of them making the threshold, and if the manage that it will increase the chances of Labour requiring Green support and increase Green leverage in policy negotiations.

ODT: Labour ‘cannot govern alone’: Greens

The Greens are warning their supporters that Labour “cannot govern alone”, and their party is the only one bold enough to meet the challenges New Zealand faces.

And, despite repeated rebuffs by Labour leader Jacinda Ardern, party co-leaders Marama Davidson and James Shaw say a wealth tax is still firmly on the table if Greens negotiate with Labour post-election.

“They can say what they need to in an [election] campaign,” Davidson said when asked about Ardern’s repeated flat-out rejection of the plan.

That keeps feeding National ammunition to attack Labour with, which Judith Collins has been doing.

Davidson said the fact that National has been hammering this policy so hard was a “sign of their desperation”.

“It has become alarmingly clear that the priority of National, and the other smaller parties, is not to keep us safe … but to divide us, and to make us scared, in the pursuit of power,” she said during her speech.

In his speech, Shaw made something of a call to action to his supporters.

“At this election, I can confidently say that the Green Party is the only party putting forward proposals that are actually bold enough to meet the scale of the challenges we face.”

And Davidson took it further: “Labour cannot govern alone.”

“Unchallenged decisions can mean bad decisions, and with the Greens at the decision-making table, we’ll make sure that we truly face the challenges we’ve been ignoring for too long.”

This is a contrast to last election when Greens went out of their way to play down concerns about what influence they might have on Labour in government.

Green survival depends on getting 5%, so they are having to compete with Labour for votes.

Collins has kept trying to hammer Labour, repeatedly insisting that the Green wealth tax would be a certainty. RNZ: Judith Collins says Greens ‘unemployable’ in latest wealth tax attack

Collins has spent much of her time in recent days warning voters about the Greens’ proposed wealth tax, arguing Labour leader Jacinda Ardern would break her promise not to introduce it.

Regardless of National’s position, Ardern says not is not the time for experimental taxes.

“One of the reasons we have ruled out the Green Party policy is because no other country has this form of taxation. Now is not the time to be experimenting with tax policy when we need to focus on our economic recovery.”

Collins would not budge, saying she believed her concerns were very real, and rejecting the claims of desperation.

“No, I think they’re very real … she shouldn’t go into name calling. “

She took her attacks on the Green Party further still, saying the Greens “didn’t really pay taxes before entering Parliament”.

“Well, most of them are unemployable I always thought. The whole lot of them. Don’t mean to be nasty but there we go, it’s the truth.”

She says having co-leader Marama Davidson as deputy prime minister “would be challenging for the country”.

The role of Deputy Prime Minister has no more power than any other Minister. All they have to do is occasionally fill in for the Prime Minister. Winston Peters did it this term and simply carried out a caretaker role. He had far more power in coalition negotiations.

I’m not a fan of Davidson at all, but I have no concerns with her becoming Deputy PM.

There is also one MP who is still supporting Collins:

But that’s false. Voting National instead of Labour would increase the chances of Greens having more influence. Voting Labour instead of National is the most effective way of reducing Green influence.

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  1. David

     /  15th October 2020

    Collins is hilarious, the Greens are unemployable…just gold

  2. Blazer

     /  15th October 2020

    Collins back to the manual…lie,then lie again…then ..deny!

  3. Alan Foster

     /  15th October 2020

    “Voting Labour instead of National is the most effective way of reducing Green influence.”
    So true, if Nat/ACT supporters want to keep the Greens out of Govt then they should vote Labour

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  15th October 2020

      Yes, that is a strategic option for the least bad outcome I had already considered.

  4. NOEL

     /  15th October 2020

    Debate prior to last election in my area was party vote for NZFirst to blunt the Greens.
    With early voting so easy, dunno what people are considering this time.

  5. Blazer

     /  15th October 2020

    Murdoch acolyte weighs in with the usual, anti left ,pre election rhetoric,that worked so well for Morrison.

    Complete shill.Hopeless.

    • Kimbo

       /  15th October 2020

      …and yet, measured against Ardern’s sweeping election promises in 2017 (“I refuse to accept we can’t do this!”),

      …and her announcement after over a year in government that “2019 is the year of delivery” (so no “Covid derailed our plans” excuses)

      …a largely accurate assessment of Ardern’s failures.

    • Kimbo

       /  15th October 2020

      …with the acknowledgment that he didn’t make much mention, other than via a cynical passing reference to Ardern’s subsequent international celebrity, to her adept handling of the empathetic requirements during the occasional crises of the Christchurch mosque murders, the White Island eruption deaths and the initial Covid scare and lockdown.

      Thought I’d at least try and be even-handed, even if, based on past form I doubt you will, Blazer. 😬 But each to his own, and ya pays yer money and ya takes yer pick.

      Either way, Ardern said three years ago when her opponents called her out for over-promising and inevitable under-delivering, that she would be judged on her record. Which should be the case with any incumbent. So here we are three years later and the failures Sheridan mentioned, Murdoch acolyte or not, are a fair cop by any reasonable measure, I would suggest.

      I mean, hey, she knew what she was inheriting (including a budget in financial surplus a year ahead of schedule compared to the dark days of the 2008 GFC crisis), so the alleged “nine years of neglect” excuse didn’t feature in Cindy’s “relentless positivity” pitch in 2017.

      But if that phrase “nine years of neglect” inspires you with another variation of, “But John Key…!”, knock yourself out. 😂

    • Kimbo

       /  15th October 2020

      Nonetheless she seems likely to be re-elected relatively comfortably (I think Ardern would have gone into coalition with the Greens irrespective of Labour achieving an outright majority, which now seems unlikely)

      …so it is what it is, and good luck to her, her supporters and voters, and the country.

      Not too sure, though, if I was a more hard-core right winger that I’d be too dissatisfied. Judged on Ardern’s past records her prospective second term may be relatively innocuous and free of left-wing legacies, as other than ephemeral feelz, her Government is unlikely to do anything concrete that will need lots of undoing. 😀

      Then again, and while acknowledging National too is looking to borrow eye-watering amounts, the issue is the hidden opportunity costs.


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