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artcroft
/ 15th October 2020Well I’m shocked to hear Winston was involved and briefed on the setting up of the foundation that collected money for his party. I completely believed him when he said it was nothing to do with him.
I wonder if further charges could be pending against others after the election…?
artcroft
/ 15th October 2020I wonder what distraction he’ll produce today to try and move attention from the story.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th October 2020He’s like The Vicar of Bray !
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020A post on this: https://yournz.org/2020/10/15/claim-that-peters-was-briefed-on-nz-first-foundation-operations/
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020Alternative view:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/14/contra-media-poll-narrative-trump-tracking-just-fine-in-electoral-college/
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th October 2020Alan, how do you feel about him telling people that he can’t catch C19 again now that he’s had it and recovered ?
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020Probably true. So far only a handful of reinfections out of millions of cases.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th October 2020It’s rare, thank goodness, but it’s not unheard of.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020The few I’ve seen reported seem to involve mutations of the virus.
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020That opens with “The media’s predictions of President Donald Trump’s certain defeat…” – I haven’t seen any media predicting certain defeat.
Some comparisons can be made with 2016 but it’s a lot different this time – it’s now well known how Trump would look as president, he is defending rather than attacking as underdog, and Hillary Clinton isn’t standing against him.
Also Covid.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020Just google Biden landslide. Here’s one of many:
https://www.newsweek.com/two-polls-that-predicted-trumps-2016-win-now-predict-his-2020-landslide-loss-1538501
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020Polls don’t predict, they measure approximate support at a point in time. That is a poor headline.
From the article:
That’s as of 3 weeks before the election.
As was the case in 2016 a lot could happen between polls now and the election.
If the two polls mentioned turn out to match the election result (there’s likely to be some polls that end up matching the result) then it could well be a landslide for Biden, but without analysing the key swing state polls all of country polls make poor predictors.
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020It’s easy to find all sorts of predictions that aren’t actually predictions, as well as misleading headlines
‘Tracking well’: Data expert predicts Donald Trump will win US election
But:
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/09/tracking-well-data-expert-predicts-donald-trump-will-win-us-election.html
Then there’s this sort of prediction (a bit like a Winston prediction:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-joe-biden-polls-2020-election-b1015005.html
Pete George
/ 15th October 2020Fox News: New polls in key battlegrounds raise concerns for Trump
There’s nearly 3 weeks until election day (although some states have already started voting) and things could change, but remember that late intervention by James Comey is likely to have a significant impact on the 2016 election:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/
It’s possible but unlikely to happen like this again.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th October 2020Not what you would call an in depth look at the election, more the pundits good it wrong last time and might again. Trump’s problem he is running on his record this time and there is no Hilary Clinton to lock up.
Also Trump appears to think he can win by turning out his base again but by appealing to them he is turning off suburban women, moderate Republicans and now seniors.
The polls were relatively accurate in 2016 but Trump managed to win enough electoral college votes to win while losing the popular vote. Can he do it again while losing the popular vote by a bigger margin?
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020Seems to me what actually counts is who turns out to vote in the US which usually has low turnout rates.
If only one in three voters actually votes the poll figures aren’t much help.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th October 2020Early voting is at record levels no doubt due to COVID 19 and inspite of lengthy queues.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/14/us-election-record-turnout-early-voting
Blazer
/ 15th October 2020I read about it and I sawed it on the…News…
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th October 2020What sort of saw did you use ?
Blazer
/ 15th October 2020an Isaw.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020“Be Kind” – just another Lefty lie:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-please-come-home-dear-mums-deathbed-plea-to-son-in-managed-isolation/3TN5HCTZMOUSM4CBR4RXN7XVQA/
Blazer
/ 15th October 2020‘ rebuffed by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment who are in charge of granting Managed Isolation and Quarantine exemptions without reason around 4.30pm yesterday, 72 hours after it was lodged.’.
You’ve caught Collins disease’.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020You’ve got Jacinda jaw. Is MBIE somehow immune from “Be Kind”? Takes three days to say no in a life and death situation – situation normal for a Lefty bureaucracy so why bother questioning it?
NOEL
/ 15th October 2020Generally, negative day 3 and day 12 COVID-19 tests and a full health assessment are needed in order to consider an exemption application.
Applications are processed based on urgency and within 5–7 working days.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th October 2020Exactly. “Be Kind” doesn’t apply. Don’t interfere with bureaucratic process.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th October 2020That’s the whole point; it was rebuffed and he didn’t see his mother before she died.
The waffle from the PM doesn’t change anything or make these cases less tragic.
NOEL
/ 15th October 2020“Exemptions for exceptional reasons are approved only in rare circumstances
Exemptions for exceptional circumstances, such as to visit a dying relative, are only approved when the health risk has been assessed as being low and can be managed. In most cases, such exemptions are approved for a temporary period and you will need to return to the managed isolation facility to complete your 14 days.
Because of the serious public health risk involved, it is unlikely approval will be granted to attend a funeral or tangihanga where there may be multiple people gathered. This would create an unacceptable risk of potential COVID-19 transmission.
If an application is successful, you will need to agree to a strict release plan that sets out where you will visit, and for how long. You must agree to adhere to the conditions of your release plan before an exemption can be granted. This will include keeping 2 metres apart from family and loved ones.
This could mean the time you spend with family and loved ones is monitored with less privacy than you expected. You should think about whether you are comfortable with this before you apply.”
Corky
/ 15th October 2020Listened to the leaders debate. Not bad from both leaders. I was about to call a draw when I heard Jacinda say we still need to keep up our refugee obligations.
Judith was the clear winner in my opinion.
Blazer
/ 15th October 2020Best debate so far.
Jacinda a clear winner.
lurcher1948
/ 15th October 2020I would say Jacinda Ardern won hands down but what’s the point