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lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020David Seymour,National gifted you your seat,you didnt fight for it BUT Cloe won Central Auckland through her own efforts,a genuine MP and she will have power unlike you David.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020That is rubbish about David Seymour, and shows that you don’t know how MMP works. People voted him in; list MPs still need votes. Had Epsom not wanted him, they wouldn’t have voted for ACT. He has worked very hard for that seat and he deserves it.
I can’t see a Green MP having much ‘power’.
Pete George
/ 18th October 2020David Seymour came across very well on Q&A this morning. He’s got a big job getting a caucus of about 10 set up and performing, but has three years to do it. Time will tell how well it goes. It will be easier doing this while in opposition.
lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020When you can do nothing,everything is easier.
Duker
/ 18th October 2020” People voted him in; ”
Yes and Goldsmith deliberately avoided any local election events and had minimal election billboards.
And Goldsmith came 3rd !
Hide was the last one to campaign against an active NP opponent, and he definitely won.
and of course Seymour ‘did well’ , hes a political cadre like Bishop and Willis who know how to work the system to their advantage
Pete George
/ 18th October 2020“hes a political cadre like Bishop and Willis who know how to work the system to their advantage”
Like Ardern and Robertson and many others who work the political system to their advantage. That’s sort of what successful politics is about these days.
Duker
/ 18th October 2020Yes Ardern and Robertson have a career as cadres….Nats and ACT go out of their way to pretend some of their people are faux farmers (English) or small business (Collins)….she was a corporate tax lawyer for her day job.
Nick Smith who’s time has come after 30 years worked for council for a short time before being a professional politician….for unexplained reasons he didnt join his brothers at family company Smith’s Bridge builders
We do know why Gerry Brownlee left the family timber business to become a woodwork teacher……then a politician
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020If people in Epsom didn’t want him, they wouldn’t keep voting for him.
Rodney Hide was also a List MP as I remember it. That way Epsom got ACT and National; two for the price of one. It’s the way MMP works, although some people still don’t understand this.
Griff.
/ 18th October 2020Rapid growth always shows up a lack of depth in the list
How long before one of the new ACT mp’s shows their inexperience by doing something really stupid?.
Same goes for the Greens .
Blazer
/ 18th October 2020Seymour jumps out of planes and plays the dancing fool to get votes.
His policies suck and the party he represents exist for the greedy and the selfish.
Pete George
/ 18th October 2020ACT 190,106 votes, 8.0%
NZF 63,447 votes, 2.7%
Sour grapes 100%
Blazer
/ 18th October 2020Winston probably the most influential politician of the last 30 years….a fitting and accurate tribute..here..
https://thestandard.org.nz/o-winston-i-love-you/
seer
/ 18th October 2020Winston has certainly has been in the thick of it during his time in politics.
Because the 17-20 government was significantly his/NZFirsts construction and because he was resistant to anti-Russia bullshit that’s prevalent, were reasons,amongst others, for me voting for Winston/NZ First.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020David Seymour went on Dancing With the Stars to raise money for a charity and succeeded in doing so.
He has the great gift of being able to laugh at himself.
Blazer
/ 18th October 2020That’s….funny.
NZ has serious issues to address.
We don’t need a…clown.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020Too late, you voted Labour and ‘bring in the clowns.’ You should have thought of that before.
Duker
/ 18th October 2020Dont speakclowns too soon, as ACT has something like 7 or 8 new Mps with no political experience and Seymour has never learnt how to wrangle a caucus….ask Hide how that worked out for him in 2010.
I reckon they will have some sort of bust up within 18 months
Duker
/ 18th October 2020How much did he raise ….. was it anything like the $260,000 that Tamiti Coffey raised for rainbow Youth ?
Some ‘stars’ only raised $600
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020$70,000.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020It was more than that, but I don’t know how much more; the votes were not an even number, of course.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 18th October 2020I would expect vote splitting in Auckland Central just as in Epsom. Voters have worked out that gets them two MPs instead of one.
So Lurch, the only difference is National acknowledged it and Labour didn’t. Honesty is good.
Blazer
/ 18th October 2020Being kind is also good…and a…winner.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 18th October 2020As I’ve noted, Be Kind doesn’t apply to immigrants or first home buyers. It definitely applies to bureaucrats.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020It doesn’t apply to businesses closed down because the government let C19 back in.
It doesn’t apply to people on ever-increasing hospital waiting lists.
It doesn’t apply to oldies left to fend for themselves for seven weeks because no one was allowed to visit them.
It doesn’t apply to the three or four times as many people needing emergency housing…..
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020It doesn’t apply to people who can’t see their dying relations.
NOEL
/ 18th October 2020Aw not again.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/123107394/less-than-four-per-cent-allowed-to-leave-isolation-to-see-dying-family
Fight4nz
/ 18th October 2020So that only leaves the massively overwhelming majority. The ones that voted for more of the same last night.
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020That is false logic. You have no way of knowing that the people who had to stay away from deathbeds voted Labour.
Nor were they the majority of voters.
50% is hardly massive or overwhelming.
lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ekj-PCqVoAEd0Fj?format=jpg&name=900×900
Duker
/ 18th October 2020” National acknowledged it and Labour didn’t. Honesty is good.”
No Goldsmith hid under a rock , didnt campaign and came a lowly 3rd with around 2/3 the votes of even the labour candidate.
https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2020_preliminary/electorate-details-11.html
White did campaign hard, is a few hundred votes behind Swarbrick
Corky
/ 18th October 2020Is a omen coming?
Duker
/ 18th October 2020Yes. Judith is done, she just doesnt know it yet…..continues the happy talk , a lot like saying the undecideds were going to let National win.
lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020A righty on a nearby radical rightwing blog posted this and i smiled
Viking October 18, 2020 At 10:04 am
My goodness did you see the way she was on the podium last night. I am the Messiah stuff. Thought she was bombed out. s
She was also wearing Muslim dress. Ask your ladies to have a look. My Lady picked it up straight away.
She is a closet Muslim.
Failed to tell us, didn’t she
Our PM Jacinda Ardern….fish and chip worker, Mormon, socialist, communist,a Muslim,and now PM…TALENTED,Viking when it sinks in there’s always Australia but there are Australians there
lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020Jacinda wins, and the ABs win,can it get any better, YES it can, Ms Collins getting rolled VERY SOON, MAYBE TOMORROW
Kitty Catkin
/ 18th October 2020Covid 19 is back in the community, but it was kept quiet until today. I wonder why? Chris Hipkins gave a rambling answer to this question. Meanwhile the person had travelled from Auckland to New Plymouth and back and the ship that is likely to be the source has travelled to Napier, or was on its way there.
This new case is seen as proof that the system is working. Yeah, right.
lurcher1948
/ 18th October 2020Forgot the lions won to
Alan Wilkinson
/ 19th October 2020It could have been worse, Lurch. The Greens could have held the balance of power. Some probably voted Labour to stop that.
Patzcuaro
/ 19th October 2020A Biden victory in November would be light at the end of the tunnel as we head into 2021.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 19th October 2020Why? What will he do?
Patzcuaro
/ 19th October 2020Attempt to govern for all America rather than divide and rule.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 19th October 2020I’m sure there will be no shortage of meaningless platitudes to satisfy you.
MaureenW
/ 19th October 2020You can’t be serious? I still doubt that it’ll be Joe who makes it over the line. Three weeks is a long time in politics.
Corky
/ 19th October 2020My thoughts on the election:
Pros
1- Labour can govern alone.
2- National was taken completely apart.
3- Chlöe Swarbrick won a seat.
4- The referendums wont be around at the next election.
5- Labour taking the middle ground.
Cons
1- The media will pay special attention to ACT.
2- Jacinda becoming our greatest PM ever on the back of a massacre and a virus.
3- A new generation of voters becoming apparent. Basically drones educated to vote Left.
4- Idiot Tories allowing their egos to get in the way of clear thinking and realising they dodged a bullet at this election. Cheer up.
My opinion is National must install Luxon as leader before Xmas. They must counter inutively forget the middle ground and go back to their roots…stand for something!
They need to remember at the next election these middle ground voters will be hurting.
They will be wanting their pain to go away. They will want their old life back. If that means voting in a very conservative party, they will do that. Don’t forget, many voters who voted for Labour, are fair whether supporters. They will migrate elsewhere as fast as they migrated to Labour.
Blazer
/ 19th October 2020My prediction Muldoon lookalike,bald headed,bible basher Luxon will NEVER become P.M of…NZ.
Take it to the…bank.
Gerrit
/ 19th October 2020No wonder PG pulled the plug on this blog. Comments like that just are so stupid and juvenile.
Between you and Duker, this blog has become unreadable and not a pleasure to discuss idea’s or thoughts.
Blazer
/ 19th October 2020The description is an accurate one.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Imo it reeks of -I do not like your politics-they do not align with…mine.