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  1. lurcher1948

     /  18th October 2020

    David Seymour,National gifted you your seat,you didnt fight for it BUT Cloe won Central Auckland through her own efforts,a genuine MP and she will have power unlike you David.

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    • That is rubbish about David Seymour, and shows that you don’t know how MMP works. People voted him in; list MPs still need votes. Had Epsom not wanted him, they wouldn’t have voted for ACT. He has worked very hard for that seat and he deserves it.

      I can’t see a Green MP having much ‘power’.

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      • David Seymour came across very well on Q&A this morning. He’s got a big job getting a caucus of about 10 set up and performing, but has three years to do it. Time will tell how well it goes. It will be easier doing this while in opposition.

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      • Duker

         /  18th October 2020

        ” People voted him in; ”
        Yes and Goldsmith deliberately avoided any local election events and had minimal election billboards.
        And Goldsmith came 3rd !
        Hide was the last one to campaign against an active NP opponent, and he definitely won.

        and of course Seymour ‘did well’ , hes a political cadre like Bishop and Willis who know how to work the system to their advantage

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        • “hes a political cadre like Bishop and Willis who know how to work the system to their advantage”

          Like Ardern and Robertson and many others who work the political system to their advantage. That’s sort of what successful politics is about these days.

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          • Duker

             /  18th October 2020

            Yes Ardern and Robertson have a career as cadres….Nats and ACT go out of their way to pretend some of their people are faux farmers (English) or small business (Collins)….she was a corporate tax lawyer for her day job.
            Nick Smith who’s time has come after 30 years worked for council for a short time before being a professional politician….for unexplained reasons he didnt join his brothers at family company Smith’s Bridge builders
            We do know why Gerry Brownlee left the family timber business to become a woodwork teacher……then a politician

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        • If people in Epsom didn’t want him, they wouldn’t keep voting for him.

          Rodney Hide was also a List MP as I remember it. That way Epsom got ACT and National; two for the price of one. It’s the way MMP works, although some people still don’t understand this.

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      • Griff.

         /  18th October 2020

        Rapid growth always shows up a lack of depth in the list
        How long before one of the new ACT mp’s shows their inexperience by doing something really stupid?.
        Same goes for the Greens .

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    • Blazer

       /  18th October 2020

      Seymour jumps out of planes and plays the dancing fool to get votes.

      His policies suck and the party he represents exist for the greedy and the selfish.

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      • ACT 190,106 votes, 8.0%
        NZF 63,447 votes, 2.7%
        Sour grapes 100%

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        • Blazer

           /  18th October 2020

          Winston probably the most influential politician of the last 30 years….a fitting and accurate tribute..here..

          https://thestandard.org.nz/o-winston-i-love-you/

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          • seer

             /  18th October 2020

            Winston has certainly has been in the thick of it during his time in politics.

            Because the 17-20 government was significantly his/NZFirsts construction and because he was resistant to anti-Russia bullshit that’s prevalent, were reasons,amongst others, for me voting for Winston/NZ First.

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      • David Seymour went on Dancing With the Stars to raise money for a charity and succeeded in doing so.

        He has the great gift of being able to laugh at himself.

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        • Blazer

           /  18th October 2020

          That’s….funny.

          NZ has serious issues to address.
          We don’t need a…clown.

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          • Too late, you voted Labour and ‘bring in the clowns.’ You should have thought of that before.

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            • Duker

               /  18th October 2020

              Dont speakclowns too soon, as ACT has something like 7 or 8 new Mps with no political experience and Seymour has never learnt how to wrangle a caucus….ask Hide how that worked out for him in 2010.
              I reckon they will have some sort of bust up within 18 months

        • Duker

           /  18th October 2020

          How much did he raise ….. was it anything like the $260,000 that Tamiti Coffey raised for rainbow Youth ?
          Some ‘stars’ only raised $600

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th October 2020

      I would expect vote splitting in Auckland Central just as in Epsom. Voters have worked out that gets them two MPs instead of one.

      So Lurch, the only difference is National acknowledged it and Labour didn’t. Honesty is good.

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  2. Corky

     /  18th October 2020

    Is a omen coming?

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    • Duker

       /  18th October 2020

      Yes. Judith is done, she just doesnt know it yet…..continues the happy talk , a lot like saying the undecideds were going to let National win.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  18th October 2020

    A righty on a nearby radical rightwing blog posted this and i smiled
    Viking October 18, 2020 At 10:04 am
    My goodness did you see the way she was on the podium last night. I am the Messiah stuff. Thought she was bombed out. s

    She was also wearing Muslim dress. Ask your ladies to have a look. My Lady picked it up straight away.
    She is a closet Muslim.
    Failed to tell us, didn’t she

    Our PM Jacinda Ardern….fish and chip worker, Mormon, socialist, communist,a Muslim,and now PM…TALENTED,Viking when it sinks in there’s always Australia but there are Australians there

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  18th October 2020

    Jacinda wins, and the ABs win,can it get any better, YES it can, Ms Collins getting rolled VERY SOON, MAYBE TOMORROW

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    • Covid 19 is back in the community, but it was kept quiet until today. I wonder why? Chris Hipkins gave a rambling answer to this question. Meanwhile the person had travelled from Auckland to New Plymouth and back and the ship that is likely to be the source has travelled to Napier, or was on its way there.

      This new case is seen as proof that the system is working. Yeah, right.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  18th October 2020

      Forgot the lions won to

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th October 2020

      It could have been worse, Lurch. The Greens could have held the balance of power. Some probably voted Labour to stop that.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  19th October 2020

      A Biden victory in November would be light at the end of the tunnel as we head into 2021.

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  5. Patzcuaro

     /  19th October 2020

    Attempt to govern for all America rather than divide and rule.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th October 2020

      I’m sure there will be no shortage of meaningless platitudes to satisfy you.

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    • You can’t be serious? I still doubt that it’ll be Joe who makes it over the line. Three weeks is a long time in politics.

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  6. Corky

     /  19th October 2020

    My thoughts on the election:

    Pros

    1- Labour can govern alone.
    2- National was taken completely apart.
    3- Chlöe Swarbrick won a seat.
    4- The referendums wont be around at the next election.
    5- Labour taking the middle ground.

    Cons

    1- The media will pay special attention to ACT.
    2- Jacinda becoming our greatest PM ever on the back of a massacre and a virus.
    3- A new generation of voters becoming apparent. Basically drones educated to vote Left.
    4- Idiot Tories allowing their egos to get in the way of clear thinking and realising they dodged a bullet at this election. Cheer up.

    My opinion is National must install Luxon as leader before Xmas. They must counter inutively forget the middle ground and go back to their roots…stand for something!
    They need to remember at the next election these middle ground voters will be hurting.
    They will be wanting their pain to go away. They will want their old life back. If that means voting in a very conservative party, they will do that. Don’t forget, many voters who voted for Labour, are fair whether supporters. They will migrate elsewhere as fast as they migrated to Labour.

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  7. Blazer

     /  19th October 2020

    My prediction Muldoon lookalike,bald headed,bible basher Luxon will NEVER become P.M of…NZ.
    Take it to the…bank.

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    • Gerrit

       /  19th October 2020

      No wonder PG pulled the plug on this blog. Comments like that just are so stupid and juvenile.

      Between you and Duker, this blog has become unreadable and not a pleasure to discuss idea’s or thoughts.

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      • Blazer

         /  19th October 2020

        The description is an accurate one.

        You are entitled to your opinion.
        Imo it reeks of -I do not like your politics-they do not align with…mine.

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