Harawira and Fox on 5th Estate

On 5th Estate Hone Harawira claims that reaction to his announcement to standing again in next year’s election is a sign of success.

He particularly poured scorn on Andrew Little.

Appearing beside him is Marama Fox, again, who seems to fit in well with Bradbury’s agenda.

She says that the Maori Party have learnt to work with anyone but maintaining their independence is necessary.

She also said that sitting at the Government table the Maori Party scraps every day for their people.

She say’s ‘we need to see Maori leadership’ in the Labour party.

She corrects Bradbury on his claim that unemployment for Maori is at it’s worst ever. She says it has improved since she became an MP.

He says that the National Government has been a run of tragedy for Maori and blames the Maori Party for approving it all via confidence and supply.

He doesn’t want to be anywhere near ‘scumbags’ like the National Party, he will ‘spit in his face’.

Fox points out they could sit in opposition and throw stones all day and get absolutely nowhere.

They have to fight but achieve things for Maori.

“Maori need to come out of the skirts of National and Labour”.

“We must be a party that shows value add for the whole country.”

She sounds a much more passionate, fiesty and pragamatic person than Harawira.

Harawira “we have to become independent thinkers, we have to become bold”.

He talks about needing to work together, care for each other, to be really strong. That sounds good.

“There needs to be a change in thinking that Maori are important to one another, to love one another, to care for each other”.

Get Maori to think independently and be the best possible they can be.

“The current crop of Maori corporate entities are as rapacious as anyone”.

He is scathing in particular of the corporate model used in fishing that is not benefiting communities. It is disastrous for Maori.

Fox says there are examples where there are attempts to have social entrepreneurship.

Corporates with a brown suit and a white heart are no use to Maori.

Why can’t the Maori party and Mana work together?

Fox says that if she can work with National she can work with anyone.

Harawira says he is up for working more together with the Maori Party. He says that attempts by Fox and him to work together are falling on deaf ears within both parties.

He says the important think, the big game, is caring for the small people.

Fox – “we could eliminate poverty now if there was  a willingness to do it. We could eliminate poverty now if there was a willingness to do it”.

Harawira and Fox reiterate they don’t want to fight with each other.

Fox on the one thing to help Maori – “we need to spend money saving the lives of our young people” with particular reference to suicide rates. “It comes to love in the home, drug and alcohol abuse. We need to give out young hope for the future”.

Harawira’s number one priority is to “feed the kids”. He doesn’t care what colour they are as it will help Maori.


This was a really interesting program. It helped that Bradbury kept out of the way most of the time.

Harawira seemed to follow Fox’s lead and talking about the core issues and what might be done to address them. I saw him in a different light to the usual media sound bites.

So plaudits to Bradbury for allowing this to develop and giving them both space to express themselves.

5th Estate revisited

I had another look at Waatea 5th Estate again last night. It was worse than last week.

When run by Martyn Bradbury it seems to be little more than a shrill rant at John key and the Government, supplemented by guests on the panel that appear to have been chosen to bolster Bradbury’s attacks.

Last night:

…to discuss Key’s advice to the homeless, $3billion in tax cuts and grotesque over fishing…

David Cunliffe
Bryce Edwards
Nandor Tanzcos

Cunliffe sounded like he was still fighting the 2014 election campaign from the top of the Mana bus.

Tanzcos leans towards Bradbury’s far left rhetoric, not surprisingly.

Edwards tried to moderate and balance the discussions with a more centre-left view, mildly arguing against some of Bradbury’s more extreme claims.

I don’t think Bradbury will start any revolutions with this.

I also looked at the previous night’s effort, which was absent any of Bradbury’s charmlessness.

Willie Jackson does a far better job. While he obviously leans left he was prepared to prod and challenge the panel and explore views other than his own.

Joining us to discuss the budget on Maori

Hone Harawira Mana Movement
Marama Davidson
Winston Peters
Marama Fox
Rino Tirikatene

– See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/05/19/waatea-5th-estate-2016-budget-for-maori/#sthash.recEKqH6.dpuf

Note the promotion of the Mana Movement only. There were some interesting exchanges with Harawira, Davidson and Tirikatene, but the highlights were Jackson’s prodding of Peters and in particular Marama Fox, the star of the show for me.

Fox strongly defended the role of the Maori party in Government and strongly advocated for their constituents. She is fiesty and proud, and complements Te Ururoa Flavell well.

And Fox was prepared to take Peters on and stand her ground.

Peters was disappointing. Too much ‘I know best’ and too little substance.

He really showed himself up when he criticised Fox’s lack of knowledge on the size of the budget, but all he could respond with was ‘tens of billions’ and claiming he didn’t have the precise amount on hand. A former Treasure and current party leader should have a fair idea that it is around $80 billion.

This was the left versus Fox but Jackson gave her a fair go and it was interesting and worthwhile.

I’d go back for more when Jackson is running things but the Me Me Martyn Show is a waste of time.

Current affairs going online

Mediawatch on Radio New Zealand on Sunday looked at Current affairs drifts online – will funding follow? (includes audio link of the programme)

Current affairs programmes that once aired on national networks are now reappearing online. Is this a trend that could loosen the broadcasters’ hold on the bulk of public funding?

Two weeks ago, broadcaster Willie Jackson and left-leaning blogger Martyn Bradbury launched a daily discussion show called Waatea 5th Estate. It screens on on Auckland’s local channel Face TV, which is available nationally on Sky TV. The show is streamed live on YouTube, and on the websites of Willie Jackson’s Waatea News and Martyn Bradbury’s The Daily Blog.

It’s a multimedia counterpoint to, in Bradbury’s words, “dumbed down tabloid trash served up as current affairs on other channels at 7pm”. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but it does show what can be done on TV and online these days with a small budget.

On an episode last Monday about broadcasting, AUT media lecturer Dr Wayne Hope said government broadcasting funding agency New Zealand on Air “should broaden its remit to fund more programmes like this one”.

It’s not clear how Fifth Estate is funded.

NZ on Air already fund some online content:

Last year NZME – owner of the New Zealand Herald and Newstalk ZB – launched an online video channel called Watch Me.

Two video series on it were funded by NZOA to the tune of $100,000 each. One is a video version of satirical political website The Civilian, and a recent online episode tore into contemporary television news.

If public money is available to satirise TV journalism online, there seems no reason not to use it to put journalism which TV broadcasters have abandoned – such as 3D – online as well.

It will be interesting to see whether public funding of current affairs moves online.

 

Waatea 5th Estate #5

After watching the first episode of Waatea 5th Estate I got busy and forgot about it, but thought it was worth checking out again.

I’m having trouble finding the live stream, all I get is last night’s episode.

I’ve got it going on The Daily Blog.

Wrapping the weeks political events with Local City Counsellor Efeso Collins, militant cyclist David Slack and former National Party MP, Claudette Hauiti

Tonight – Auckland City Council u-turn, Judith Collins marching and Don Brash on Maori Privilege

Judith Collins is very well loved on the ground” – Claudette Hauiti

David Slack very critical of Phil Goff’s golf course conversion to housing plan. He’s generally very leftish, promoting more state housing but some interesting comments.

Selfish boomers (who fought off the Unitary Plan this week in Auckland).

Efeso Collins very critical of Judith Collins marching with thew police in the Gay Pride Parade. Hauiti disagrees and says that Collins has maintained very good relationships with LBGTetc people.  Brabury pushes the inappropriateness. Calls it goose stepping, the goose.

Hauiti – in 18 months in Parliament Murray McCully was in a Caucus meeting twice.

Bradbury complaining about the “massive bribe” Saudi deal.

Slack points out a major media issue – if one outlet gets a big scoop the other major outlets tend to only give it cursory attention and look for their own stories.

Now onto Don Brash – this is a lame topic. Brash is from the past, old political news.

Collins, on the media again – we are being fed a whole lot of nonsense. There’s a lot of disillusionment with media news, but all it’s doing is fragmenting more. Waatea 5th Estate is a good attempt at an alternative but it’s reach will be quite small.

Slack thinks the dildo thing was trivial and funny, I’m not sure how he would feel on the receiving end.

The end up dissing the flag choice, no balance at all but it was a ‘final word’.

Bradbury has his final rant, he’s too loud and opinionated but Slack and Hauiti were worthwhile, Collins didn’t get much say.

If they have interesting topics and I’m not busy I’d watch it again.

The other topics this week (you can watch previous episodes at The Daily Blog:

Waatea 5th Estate Ep 1 – TPPA – political, economic and sovereignty issues with Professor Jane Kelsey and Marama Fox

Waatea 5th Estate Ep 2 – Auckland housing bubble, Unitary Plan & intergenerational friction with Penny Hulse, Auckland 2040 & Salvation Army

Waatea 5th Estate Ep 3 – the political and cultural ramifications of private prisons in NZ

Waatea 5th Estate Ep 4 – Awaroa Abel Tasman Sale

I wouldn’t have bothered with that one.

Another plus – no advertising breaks!