Kiwiblog troll

Posted on Kiwiblog:

Quite funny, but not so funny was what prompted it, a series of deliberately provocative and abusive posts over the last few days. This resulted in:

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Lucy scares all decent and intelligent people. Her type is behind every religious inspired war, genocide, torture and horror in the world today.

She longs for a past time where she could have tortured mutilated and killed non Catholics with impunity. She is more dark and evil than most people could fathom, but some of us see straight through to her rotten hateful heart.

[DPF: This comment, and many others are unacceptable. This is your seventh strike and a three month suspension. The 10th strike is permanent inclusion. You need to change your style if you want to remain here]

DPF would have meant “The 10th strike is permanent exclusion”, his policy details Strike 10 – permanent ban.

Seems fair enough. Kiwiblog can get quite abusive at times but this is at the extreme end, and it was after repeated abuse by a recidivist – in fact this person was on the receiving end of DPF’s first strike:

Kea (13,924 comments) says:
And that Scott Chris shows you are fundamentally unsuited to make that choice. You are a coward and intellectually dishonest. Your own contributions are worthless dross for those reasons.

But I would allow you to share your brain-farts in total freedom. They make other contributors look good and fill the diversity quota [for the handicapped] at the same time.

[DPF: Thanks for the perfect example of an unacceptable comment. You’re the first person to get a strike under the new regime]

Looking through the strike list shows someone out of control – these are just a handful of the worst examples.

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Scott Chris has pushed the “Report abusive comment” button FIFTY TIMES. What a cowardly wanker.

DPF gives me a strike but sees none of the abuse thrown at me by this, and other, abusive bigots on a daily basis. DPF has form for this sort of thing and his bullshit claims about lack of bias further erode his remaining credibility. The primary reason he demerits me is for my views.

I am out of here folks for good and are closing my account. Though I will pop in to watch KB continue its decline into a fanatical Christian anti-Muslim hate site.

[DPF: And that was strike two. You’re not yet suspended if you change your mind]

Abusing the blog owner is not a good idea, especially when they are trying a new system of trying to tone down the abuse.

Note the statement that they were ‘out of here folks for good ‘. Twelve days later:

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

stupidboy, it is you an Lucy supporting the annexation of he Crimea made under the USSR. Not me, not Andre and not Putin.

[DPF: Warning – use his proper monicker]

A day later:

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Lucy, I know exactly what you are talking about and I told you exactly that I did not report you. I told you I was kidding.

Are you on the Sherry or something ?

You are not normally this retarded unless you have your god-goggles on.

[DPF: 2nd warning – unacceptable]

Five days later:

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

Padriv Ustoev, in CATHOLIC South America, be-headings are so common they are not even news. Nor are mutilations and torture. All the words most dangerous cities are in CATHOLIC South America.

And sorry folks, impotently down voting and typing troll on your spittle soaked keypad will not change the reality.

[DPF: And that is strike three and a one week suspension]

That toned things down, until a month later.

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Kowtow reaches a new low in race hate baiting.

The attacks on Hindu folk in Auckland is proof that Christian immigration is not compatible with New Zealand values and should be stopped now.

If the Jew does not like it here it can crawl back to its nest in Israel kowtow, surrounded by Muslims ! :lol: (they are Arabs themselves of course)

[DPF: And that is strike 4. Two weeks holiday]

That lesson was more quickly forgotten or ignored.

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

For the newbies, Lucia is a radical Catholic and Nazi apologist. Her view of the churches involvement in the Croatian (and German) Holocaust contradicts the findings of respected holocaust research organisations, eyewitnesses, scholars and the people who admitted what they did. That makes her a holocaust denier.

She will lie and deny facts, refusing to answer questions, to protect her precious church. She runs to DPF to try and get people who expose her banned.

[DPF: And calling someone a Nazi apologist is a good way to get banned. This is Strike 5 and a one month ban.]

A pattern of behaviour and defiance.

Kea (13,924 comments) says:

Yes, I think it is. Right now, I’m not in the mood for calling DPF’s attention to Kea’s comments. However, I’m sure as the days unfold, how I feel will change.

There you go, Kea. Annoy me enough and your own words will condemn you.

What a raging narcissist.

I have wiped better things off the sole of my shoe than a hate filled harpy like you. You are filth. Go fuck yourself.

[DPF: And that is Strike 6, just a day after you are back from Strike 5. That is a two month suspension]

And two and a bit months later was yesterdays ban, which won’t have been a surprise considering the whole day leading up to it in General Debate 19 April 2015.

New Kiwiblog moderation strikes

David Farrar has been promising to toughen up on abusive comments at Kiwiblog with a new three strikes moderation policy. The first and second strikes give an indication of intent.

The first was on the thread Volunteers sought for Kiwiblog last Friday, where fairly predictably ‘Kea’ got the first strike:

And that Scott Chris shows you are fundamentally unsuited to make that choice. You are a coward and intellectually dishonest. Your own contributions are worthless dross for those reasons.

But I would allow you to share your brain-farts in total freedom. They make other contributors look good and fill the diversity quota [for the handicapped] at the same time.

[DPF: Thanks for the perfect example of an unacceptable comment. You’re the first person to get a strike under the new regime]

That’s relatively mild from Kea, who has been banned several times under the old moderation system. Kea is a prolific commenter with some good things to say at times but often resorts to personal abuse, sometimes extreme even by (past) Kiwiblog standards.

The second strike was yesterday, and was a second strike for Kea:

Scott Chris has pushed the “Report abusive comment” button FIFTY TIMES. What a cowardly wanker.

DPF gives me a strike but sees none of the abuse thrown at me by this, and other, abusive bigots on a daily basis. DPF has form for this sort of thing and his bullshit claims about lack of bias further erode his remaining credibility. The primary reason he demerits me is for my views.

I am out of here folks for good and are closing my account. Though I will pop in to watch KB continue its decline into a fanatical Christian anti-Muslim hate site.

[DPF: And that was strike two. You’re not yet suspended if you change your mind]

Scott Chris had openly admitted reporting the abuse – as requested by DPF – and if Kea had felt unacceptable abuse had been directed at him he could have done likewise.

If Kea changes his mind and returns then on past form a third strike will be difficult for him to avoid.

This new moderation regime seems to have made some of the regulars a bit uneasy but if they don’t resort to personal abuse they shouldn’t have anything to worry about.

Some at Kiwiblog seem to have for a long time considered abuse, bullying and trying to drive other away a bit of sport. They will have to get used to the referee’s new rules.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxsbbvy2wn2thrf/Kea%20RIP.jpg?dl=0

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UPDATE: Another strike on 8/10/2014

Nukuleka (316 comments) says:

Not sure why you should worry about having any code of standards about your blog DPF when you mindlessly use inappropriate and offensive language at will. Perhaps you are the offensive little creep that the left wing hate blogs suggest. Maybe JK would be wise to start to distance himself from you as well as from Cameron Slater.

[DPF: Strike 1]

Kea on Kiwiblog – rape culture and abuse

‘Kea’ is a prolific commenter on Kiwiblog. He has often run foul of other commenters (including myself) and often resorts to abuse, especially when his comments and behaviour are confronted.

Kea is a misogynist with sometimes extreme views on women.

Kea was one of several at Kiwiblog who reacted abusively when I raised the issue of rape culture several months ago. Kea continued to attack me over this from time to time.

Things changed a little when the Roast Busters issue came up over the last week. I and others spoke up against the Roast Busters and some of the culture surrounding the abuse of women.

But Kea didn’t change. His misogyny and abuse was as apparent as before. And yesterday he stooped even lower, making despicable inferences about me. When challenged he refused to retract and continued with his abuse.

Some of Kea’s comments earlier yesterday on General Debate, starting on religion, including:

Red, prove god exists or shut your foul mouth.
Or do you take the view that telling lies is ok, if it is for a good cause ?
Put up or shut up.

I do not oppose religion to make a statement or to start a fight. I do it because I am convinced it is based on a lie and I do not like lies. I also consider relgion extremelly harmful and damaging.

Ironic references to lies, Kea frequently makes things up when accusing and abusing – often after others make it clear he is wrong.

Then the topic switched when I commented on the RadioLive train wreck.

Telecom and the Mad Butcher have also pulled their advertising from the Willy and JT train wreck.

And Briscoes have pulled from the station altogether.

A pity advertising pressure can’t be put on the police to sort their shit out. It will have to be continued public and media pressure – but it is likely to take a determined and extended effort, they have resisted reforming themselves adequately despite assurances following the Bazely Report.

Kea responded at 12.13 pm.

You piece of shit PG. You really are a disgusting little creep.

Here you are claiming the moral high ground while demanding extortion and trial by media to promote your anti male agenda.

It shows what sort of a vile prick you are that the only way you have to impress women is to shit on your fellow man.

Fuck you.

Typical Kea, making things up and abusing someone he disagrees with. He used other comments to continue his attack on me.

Kea at 12:42 pm.

Ed Snack, you would not say that if you were wrongly accussed of a sex crime, as so many men are.

PG, must have done something he is not proud of in his past and this is his way of making ammends.

The rest of us do not carry that burden.

A lead in to what was to come at 12:43 pm.

“An American Graham Capill:”

Manolo, Very topical. Yes what is it with those who stand on a soap box about sexual morality…

As I often do I ignored Kea and kept commented on RadioLive developments but Kea kept on targeting me.

12:51 pm.

PG you maggot, if there is evidence of a crime, why do we need trial by media ?

12:54 pm.

PG, how about coming clean and telling us why you are continually on a soap box about “rape” and attacking other men ?

Normal folk already consider rape a terrible wrong and are wondering what is going on with you ?

My first response:

There’s ample evidence that you’re the one who attacks other men Kea. Ask yourself.

Kea replied at 1.01 pm.

PG, you are avoiding my question.

Do you think you really appear more moral or as a defender of female virtue ?

You don’t. You besmirch other men in order to elevate yourself. It is not a moral or a good thing, rather the opposite.

A typically absurd accusation at 1.13 pm.

PG and others have claimed they have evidence of multiple rapes. A very serious matter.

So I am wondering why they are not passing their evidence onto the Police ? On the face of it they appear to be withholding evidence and this should probably be followed up by the Police.

2.07 pm.

PG, ok so you admit to having NO EVIDENCE. So what are you basing your ideas on ?

The girls admitted to voluntarily drinking with the intention of having sex. Numerous girls have defended the boys. Only a tiny number have cowardly developed retrospective morals.

I have never claimed to have evidence. The facts of the Roast Busters are widely known. Kea demonstrates fairly extreme rape culture behaviour.

2.12 pm.

PG demands that no one question the hysterical narrative fed to us by the feminist media and that anyone who does should be shut down. We can’t even talk about it. He also admits to having no evidence.

Yet he wants to destroy the lives of young men anyway, just to show us all what a great guy he is.

Remember folks, this could be you or your son next.

I didn’t demand anything.

Someone else introduced false rape complaints into the discussion.

Kea responded to this but also took another swing at me at 2.24 pm.

nasska, I have heard figures as high as 50% being false. I have been told things by detectives that they could never say to the public.

We are not allowed to talk about it, figures are hidden, and prosecutions are rare.

The fact so many cases, (that make it to court), do not result in a conviction, is used by anti male hate groups as evidence that the standard of proof should be lowered ! When really it indicates that the Police are way too keen to prosecute men when they have no evidence. PG is a crank, but there are people with statutory powers who are just like him.

Judith challenged and refute Kea’s false complaint claims and also commented on the Roast Busters

Whether these guys are rapists or not will be decided, but over and above that, they are the poorest excuse for ‘men’ that I have seen in a long time.

I quipped that Kea seems to be trying to compete for that, in reference to “poorest excuse for ‘men’”.

Judith then spent some time challenging Kea’s assertions.

I posted some rape complaint statistics which backed up Judith’s claims.

Sexual attacks

Rates of reported sexual attacks have also increased dramatically. There were 908 reported sexual attacks in 1978, increasing steeply to a peak of 3,222 in 1993. This data cannot be compared with data after 1997, as reported attacks which were identified after investigation as ‘no offence disclosed’ were removed from the record.

Between 1997 and 2008, the number of validated sexual attacks was relatively stable, averaging over 2,200 a year. However, it was estimated in the early 2000s that only about 10% of sexual assaults were reported to the police.

A review of 1,955 sexual violation offences involving adults reported to the police between 1 July 2005 and 31 December 2007 concluded that 31% of all reported complaints led to prosecutions and 42% of these prosecutions resulted in a conviction. Thirty-four percent of the 1,955 complaints were classified as ‘no offence’ and of these, almost a quarter were defined as ‘false complaints’.

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/violent-crime/page-8

Kea’s response was bizarre although not out of character…

Judith & PG, sorry but the lies of anti male hate groups do not count as evidence or fact.

…and then he launched into a particularly offensive attack at 2.49 pm.

What does PG, Graham Capill, and every rapist and kiddy fiddler have in common ? : They would all very strongly oppose rape if you asked them.

PG is totally full of shit and is not being honest about his motivation for this crusade.

I decided that had crossed a line and addressed it.

Kea, if you don’t retract your comment at 2:49 pm and make an appropriate apology I’m going to take action. Your frequent abuse and false claims are often over the top but that inference is especially despicable, and defamatory.

Kea at 3.10 pm.

Don’t like a taste of your own medicene a PG ? The bloody cheek after the things you have said about me and other men !

If you can find any factual error in my comment I will be happy to correct that error asap.

3.11 pm.

Actually on second thoughts I will not correct any factual error. You are not concerned with facts when slagging off myself and other men.

At this stage I emailed an abuse report to David Farrar, something have I rarely done. Kiwiblog has a lot of very robust and often abusive discourse but DPF usually acts if it gets particularly bad, especially with personal abuse. (At the time of writing this he hasn’t done anything but he is often busy so no cause for concern there.)

Other comments condemned Kea and he was heavily thumbed down. He responded to one comment at 3.54 pm.

Lance, is there a factual error in my post ?

The point is that PG makes a big show of holding views that are perfectly normal. I have not seen anyone defend rape.
He slags of other men and accuses them of being rape enablers, as if being opposed to rape is something exceptional and he is special for his views.

He is not special or exceptionally tough on rape. He is a posturing performer and I want to know what is behind that.

4:00 pm.

Funny thing is that I have discussed my views with women. They support my stance. I guess they are not trying to impress anyone.

Kea sometimes claims women resoundingly support his misogyny.

I decided to keep out of the thread but kea didn’t stop attacking. At 4.49 pm.

Longknives, generally they are still portrayed as “victims” who need help for their “issues”.

You can thank scum like PG for this sorry state of affairs.

4.54 pm.

PG, Hay fuckwit, how is that action going ?

Oh and remember being accussed of something is all the evidence we need for sex crimes. A standard you have set yourself you sack of shit.

Reid gave Kea some advice.

Kea if I were you I’d withdraw and apologise. What you said is a bannable offence: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/demerits – 100 points.

The odd thing is, you don’t seem to think you’ve done anything wrong.

OTY mate but you’re living dangerously if you don’t do anything about this. If Pete’s already reported it I suspect the only reason you’re still here is because DPF hasn’t had time to look at it. The clock’s ticking.

Kea at 5.58 pm.

1. The point is that loudly claiming the moral high ground is not evidence you occupy that high ground. I gave specific examples.

2. I accused PG of nothing. But even if I had, so what ? This filthy sack of shit has spent months accusing me, loving fathers, sons, husbands etc of being soft on rape or part of a rape culture. He has implied I am a rapist on numerous occasions. He is a vile nasty sneaky little prick. And his reaction to being knocked off his perch shows him to be a coward.

So Reid, what is with the double standard ? Fuck you too.

As usual this is the reverse of what happened, Kea was the one who attacked me a number of times over several months without me mentioning the issue.

More bizarre at 6.02 pm.

Oh ok then…………….

If PG can show me that Graham Capill did not stand on a soap box about sexual morality, I will withdraw my comment.

Or are you simply claiming Capill was innocent ?

You forgot to say.

6.52 pm.

Reid, like the guy who has been accusing all the men in the country of being rapists ? Who accuses soldiers of being negligent fathers. ?

False, a total misrepresentation of what I said several months ago.

6.59 pm.

Reid, I know you will struggle with the concept of integrity, but if it comes to a choice between posting on a blog, or standing up for what is right, telling the truth and freedom of speech, I will choose the later. There is no way I will back down to bullies and scum bags. The only way I will back down is to demonstrate how I am wrong. And personal attacks don’t count. Sorry bout that :)

A number of ironies in there. And Kea rarely seems to recognise when he is wrong (which he often is), despite it often being clearly demonstrated he is wrong.

Later in the evening kea was asked how his day had been. At 9.09 pm:

Things have been a bit strained today mate. I think PG and I may have fallen out. He is probably around at Red & Kowtows house right now having a cry about the injustice of it all ;)

Kea has fallen out with many on Kiwiblog. Today he didn’t fall out with me (that happened a long time ago) but I think he crossed a line and there needs to be consequences.

And he continued his factless and tactless attacks on the Radio Live and Roast Busters thread last night, and continues this morning.