Rachinger public apology

Ben Rachinger has been pressed to at least apologise for sending pictures of a journalist that ended up being published by Lauda Finem.

He responded on this on Your NZ yesterday:

I’ve already acknowledged to JW as much as I can say. I don’t see that relitigating it in public for white knights helps her. She can raise the issue in public as she sees fit.

Insofar as Slater received the pictures and forwarded them to Lauda Finem?

That’s a whole basket of can’t comment. For obvious and very good reasons. A lot of people have been up to some very dodgy stuff. In some cases, criminal.

What I’m supposed to have done is unethical but not illegal. What Slater has allegedly done?

That’s definitely criminal 🙂

Thanks

This morning in what appear to be authentic tweets:

Unconditionally apologise to for sending pictures to who then sent them to . Worst thing I’ve ever done

I have no excuses for what is extremely shithouse and immoral behaviour. I can only make amends by writing and by taking Slater down.

Would like to say that my ex had no knowledge of any of pics. She’s her own person. We don’t speak anymore. Onwards to literary infamy! 🙂

Ben has said he is writing a book.

He can confirm if these tweets are from him but to me it looks authentic.

 

Whale Oil connections

A week ago a post appeared on Lauda Finem that revealed substantial personal and family information about a regular commenter here, ‘Mike C’.

This may have seemed “out of the blue” to some people but it obviously would have taken someone some time to trawl the Internet to source the material. It’s really quite creepy. The same sort of thing has happened to me.

It’s possible this despicable personal attack is the result of a long standing grudge. On a post here  to the Lauda Finem post Mike C commented:

However … [Deleted as per court order] stepped over the line by putting photos and information about my extended family members in the Lauda Finem post.

And for that … I will never forgive [Deleted as per court order] and the Brothers and Belt and Juana.

End of Story

It may or may not have been [Deleted as per court order] who actually did the post but he’s a part of this group – and he was the first to draw attention to the post by putting a link to it in a retaliatory comment. It seemed at the time that he threw a hissy at Mike C, hit the post button at Lauda Finem and then linked to it, but it may have been a ‘Team LF’ effort.

Last year Mike C was a regular commenter on Whale Oil, but apparently fell foul of Cameron Slater, Pete Belt and Juana Atkins (Slater’s wife). I don’t know details and most of this has probably been deleted off Whale Oil. Like many people Mike C was banned from Whale Oil, and then started commenting here at Your NZ.

Mike C has been a critic of Whale Oil and those involved there, and also of the Nottingham cabal. Both groups are closely related and have  records of choosing targets based on very little (sometimes they attack totally innocent people as @Laudafinem did in the weekend).

Some of contents of the Lauda Finem post certainly look to have been at least tipped off by a person or persons with far more than a blog observer’s knowledge.

Mike C also commented:

I never had any bone to pick with the Brothers Grimm and [Deleted as per court order] at Lauda Finem until they began attacking this Blog several months ago.

My mention of Juana Slater is valid … because she wrote my full birth name in here a couple of months ago.

Slaters Wife is part of this entire equation … I can assure you 🙂

It is correct that Juana (Atkins, who comments and authors as Spanish Bride) had already outed Mike C. It happened here:

Mike C

October 2, 2015  / 6:55 pm
Belt should be worried about what people can dig up and publish about him 🙂

spanishbride

 /  October 3, 2015  / 1:18 pm
[Edited – I initially held this comment aside until I had time to deal with it properly,Spanish Bride, what you did is dirty, as anyone who is familiar with how blogs operate would well know. You may do things dirty at Whale Oil, that’s your choice, but it’s not acceptable here.

What Cameron, and others, and now obviously you, seem to do is dish the dirt out in big dollops but if anyone challenges you on it you react badly and instead of addressing criticisms you resort to attacking those who criticise. If you can’t take criticism I suggest you give up blogging.PG]

It was a provocative comment from Mike C but it didn’t deserve that sort of response from Atkins.

I deleted the details but have a copy of what Atkins posted as evidence. That looks to have been done with calculated retaliatory and malicious intent.

It wouldn’t be hard to see Belt as being complicit in that hit.

And from October 3 to last week would give someone or some people enough time to trawl the ‘Net and dredge up extensive personal details of someone in preparation for a Lauda Finem hit job.

[Deleted as per court order]  is known to work closely with Slater on some things. Last week’s Court of Appeal judgment shows an obvious relationship between Slater and [Deleted as per court order]in the claimed defamation by Matthew Blomfield, and  I’ve seen some vile stuff in other court documents involving the two of them.

This adds weight to the view of quite a few people that Lauda Finem has been used by Slater and co as a means of dishing dirt that is too nasty (if that’s possible), too legally risky or too financially risky to post at Whale Oil.

They seem to be a very spiteful and vengeful bunch.

Follow up to Lauda Finem

This is a follow up to yesterday’s post Lauda Finem and associates.

I’ve had quite a bit of support for collating and publishing information that many have talked about in parts for some time. Thanks.

I’ve had some cautionary advice. Thanks for that too. I’m aware there are risks, but I feel that the risks are justified by the need for it to be aired. For the public good.

I believe that what I have said is soundly based on facts. I could have said much more, and I hope that much more will be said, but most of that can wait, and some must wait.

What I didn’t say that is that material recently posted at Lauda Finem looks like it could only have come from Cameron Slater or close asociates at Whale Oil, and other information posted recently at Lauda Finem looks like it could only have come from [Precautionary delete] or close associates of his. At least, in both cases, it’s hard to think of alternate sources who would know the detail in posts.

I’ll leave yesterday’s post as it is for a while, unless I am informed of any inaccuracies that require correcting. Then I may add information to build a reference.

The only claim of inaccuracies that I’m aware of was this trweet:

Old news , unfortunately it’s also wrong, but again you’ll get to find that out; thanks anyway for confirming your contacts.

Them claiming something is wrong is as credible as them claiming something is right – backed up by nothing. There are many peoeple who have been targets of their tweets or posts who will be aware of how much they make up, how much they embellish, distort and lie.

By @Laudafinem standards their reaction was very lame and then stopped. That could mean they are busy working on their next hit job, or someone has finally woken up to how self damaging they were, or whatever.

And, I find this really quite funny:

You are blocked from following @Laudafinem and viewing @Laudafinem’s Tweets.

I’m not sure what that means. All I did was respond to a coulpe of their tweets politely and ‘like’ a couple of their tweets.

What prompted me to take the step of yesterday’s post?

The post on Lauda Finem on Thursday targeting me was also relatively lame same old, except for publishing a photo of my house with the full address. While it’s not difficult to get this information online that had nasty implications. See Death threats before attack. 

Like me Matthew Blomfield has been on the receiving end of the attention from some of those named yesterday. One is subject to a restraining order. (Note – no motive has been revealed for that attack.)

Last month @laudafinem tweeted:

Keep digging another couple of feet and you’ll have reached the magic six

In July my photo was included in a “dirty dozen” in a post at Lauda Finem. In August they did an attack post on me.

So Thursday’s post wasn’t a major.

But the post they did on Tuesday was what caused me to reassess my caution in what I posted about them. In that they attacked someone who was simply a commenter on Your NZ who had done nothing…except criticise some of those I named yesterday.

Some of Frankie’s criticisms date back to when she had clashes with Cameron Slater and his associates at Whale Oil over a year ago.

And I recongnised something familiar, because I believe that some of the reason why Lauda Finem et al have targeted me has links to clashes I had with Slater eighteen months ago. There are indications that Slater has had an involvement with others in various actions against me.

That it appeared that these same people would bear grudges and mount despicable attacks on people who just happen to get involved in the rough and tumble of blog commenting concerned greatly.

And it became obvious that they were not going to stop at the hit post on Tuesday. @Laudafinem continued.

On Saturday afternoon (NZ time) @Laudafinem tweeted something that was quite nasty directed at Frankie, and I’m fairly sure it was based on information that wasn’t discovered by someone on their own in Amsterdam.

So I warned them.

. If you persist on Twitter I’ll start to name all of you each time you attack unreasonably or lie. Your choice.

. Not joking. Your stalking, smearing, defaming, abusing, intimidating threatening and lying is going to be challenged more.

They ignored that. Early Sunday morning they tweeted:

Nice that you allowed WMD to change his moniker, makes it just that much easier when the IP addresses are subject to subpoena

Another threat of legal action. And it is based on what appears to be a completely false assumption about ‘WMD’.

So I wrote and posted Lauda Finem and associates, which I believe is based on facts (mostly) and honest opinion.

Why has no one gone to this extent before? Probably because of the threats and intimidation and abuse and defamation that would be likely to result. And possibly years of court action.

But I decided that people like Frankie and WMD, just ordinary peoeple comenting on Your NZ, should be somehow protected from this small gang on online bullies and thugs.

They seem to believe they could act with impunity. As some have said they may not be as protected from New Zealand law as they think their offshore hosting gives them.

But the process of law is slow. It takes months and often years to deal with things. That involves important processes that take time.

But it doesn’t deal well with online actions that can happen daily, or hourly.

So I chose to try an online solution – sunlight. These bullies have gone to great lengths to avoid having those responsible for their actions identified. But sooner or later that was going to fall aprt for them.

What now?

They have gone quiet for the last 24 hours, but that means little.

They could front up and accept responsibility, but I think they have been cowards too long to do that.

They could and should take the Lauda Finem website down, because that abuses and defames many many people. It is a disgrace, it is despicable, and the many victims of their attention deserve to know who was responsible.

And the threats of legal action threatened by @Laudafinem and laudafinem.com? If any action is taken who would do that?

I think we can be confident the Amsterdam police won’t be interested.

If the New Zealand police investigate I have a lot of information that may be of interest to them.

@Laudafinem go from dirty to despicable

@Laudafinem keep showing how you can’t take any of their claims seriously. They continue to niggle away on Twitter, and continue to shoot their credibility in the foot. And their latest tweets lower their dirt level to despicable, now threatening family who have nothing to do with this.

Two tweets yesterday:

To fully appreciate how the “Wolf” has turned @althecat read the extraordinarily inept assessment of @PeteDGeorge: Westpac Privacy Statement on information disclosure

And then:

Since when @PeteDGeorge has comment been stalking? You publish crap, we highlight said crap. Your disdain for criticism is however obsessive

The irony in that is laughable. As is their attempts to discredit you, participants at Your NZ. Anyone associated with criticism of them can become a target of their smearing. Look at this cluster of crap:

That’s the nature of much of their so-called “highlight said crap”.

They’ve claimed and implied several times that I have an issue with drinking. They have simply made that up. Many of their accusations are made up, on Twitter, and at Lauda Finem where their long winded posts are little more than pissing into a foul wind, with most of it blowing back on themselves.

And likening me to Prentice is a joke (except [Deleted as per court order] sounds like he believes his own nonsense) – I’m not a sysop and have never claimed to be one. Prentice and I are as dissimilar as Lauda Finem and credibility.

Even their Twitter profile is obvious bull that is at odds with other claims.

LaudaFinemTwitterProfile

Occasionally they tweet on Australian issues but 90%+ of their attention is on New Zealand, and probably half of that lately has been on their obsession with me and Your NZ. And virtually all their blog posts have an New Zealand focus.

They repeated this claim recently:

We will say it once more, for the last time! Lauda Finem is a foreign based blog, it is not and never has been based in New Zealand or any of it’s territories.

Everything LF publishes we do so quite legally, no different to any other foreign news source. Moreover LF is NOT a party to any legal proceeding in New Zealand whatsoever, nor is any member of team LF, again all members live outside New Zealand, always have, always will.

That could be partially factual, depending on how you define ‘Team LF’. Sure the blog is hosted overseas (so is Your NZ for that matter). And there are indications that their claims of being based in the Netherlands could be correct. But beyond one person there who is in the team?

The above Twitter thread is typical of tag team stalking and smearing, and I’m fairly sure [Deleted as per court order] lives in New Zealand – he recently announced on Facebook he had changed jobs in Auckland. He also claims on Facebook that he’s a Justice Campaigner, how he can be that and “NOT a party to any legal proceeding in New Zealand whatsoever” I’m not sure. In fact I am certain that he is.

There’s more blatant bull in their claims and more to their team that will come out in due course when it can be revealed. Please don’t attempt to do this now.

And they have just taken their dirty to another low.

LaudaFinemDirtyPlusThe first tweet just a typically stupid smear.

The second is a despicable threat. What I do online has nothing whatsoever to do with my wife. Of course if I self funded any election campaign my wife has “jointly funded” it. She has also supported that.

But it has nothing at all to do with @LaudaFinem’s dirty campaign against me now.

It appears to be yet another attempt to harass and intimidate me.  They’ve been attacking me for three months now. And they have been attacking Your NZ and you who participate here. And failed to shut me up or shut us up. So now they are resorting to family threats. Dirty, despicable and desperate.

Lauda Furphy response

In typical fashion Lauda Finem have responded to Blomfield rumours with bluster and more lame attempts to discredit the messenger.

The best to come out of it – Lauda Furphy, “a rumour or story, especially one that is untrue or absurd”.

They have been quite busy ignoring me, not just tweeting but they are still obviously still scouring the Internet to try and find something to smear me with.

They have done this via Twitter, but as things are easily lost in scattered gunning there I’ll collate them on record here.

“Your NZ” serves as little more than a daily reminder of why “@PoliticheckNZ” was destined to fail the moment @PeteDGeorge became editor.

Lame and irrelevant.

Do you really believe @PeteDGeorge that anyone with a brain really takes you or anything you have to say seriously, Astronomy, Hash & Rugby?

Funny. They seem to be taking a serious interest in anything posted and commented.

I responded to that one:

You seem to be paying me a lot of attention. If no one took me seriously why would you bother? #obsessed#attackthemessenger

Their reply:

Why @PeteDGeorge? Because we like to note the material published, times & likely agenda. For example the injecting of Dixon v R is a furphy

As I said, #obsessed and #attackthemessenger – and guessing agendas is something they often do, very poorly. Another reply:

A massive furphy @PeteDGeorge, no doubt raised by Blomfield. R V Dixon carries no weight, no theft having occurred (see police report).

I had to look up what ‘furphy’ was – “a rumour or story, especially one that is untrue or absurd”. That’s funny. And false – it’s fairly obvious they are taking me seriously to a point of obsession.

And ironic – they are good with unaware irony. Lauda Furphy sounds very appropriate – “a rumour or story, especially one that is untrue or absurd”.

Its clear from your ill conceived musings @PeteDGeorge, and that’s undoubtedly all they are, that you are not privy to recent developments.

“Ill conceived musings” – Lauda Furphy.

You have lied @PeteDGeorge you claimed, three months ago, that Blomfield first contacted you – also strange is your hiding the police docs.

I haven’t lied. They are confusing something from “three months ago” – I believe that was actually more like five months ago – with the last week and the last two months. I don’t know if the get confused easily or deliberately try to confuse things.

Don’t worry @PeteDGeorge unlike YOU we have absolutely everything. What’s really sickening is the claim that you’ve investigated the case.

Yeah, right. Apart from being an impossible claim it’s typical ‘we know everything, we just never get around to fronting up with credible proof’.

You’re a right-wing political spin-doctor @PeteDGeorge a piss poor one, but a spin-doctor nevertheless.

That’s just very funny. Of course they know absolutely everything.

Hey @PeteDGeorge why is it that you have concealed your work background whilst politically active? Surely voters have a right to that info?

Hey that’s irrelevant and lame. It’s very common, like normal, for people to keep what they do politically separate from their work.

And it’ shows how hypocritical they are.

Lauda Finem not only conceal their work background (which unlike me has a lot to do with their online activism), they conceal their whole background and identity. Surely readers have a right to that information, considering what they actively do. They claim to be bold justice campaigners but haven’t got the guts to be open about themselves.

The tag team joins in:

@Laudafinem @PeteDGeorge nothing like suiting your own agenda

@[Deleted as per court order] @PeteDGeorge And Whiskey Pete undoubtedly has an agenda

That’s another insinuation they have tried before. A false insinuation – making things up to smear, again.

As a “software consultant” @PeteDGeorge, who’s “well connected” should the public be concerned if your connections include civil servants?

More lame. This is an example of them digging for dirt and then making false insinuations. It’s something their blog posts are riddled with. And they claim:

If our deductions and educated assumptions are correct, and we are 99% confident that they are

They bolded the 99%.

They may well be 99% confident their speculation and wild guesses are correct.

I’m 99% sure they make a lot of shit up and try to present it or imply it as fact. As I’ve shown them doing it here

And any facts they may have get lost amongst the hubris, stupidity and dishonesty.

Lauda Furphy – “a rumour or story, especially one that is untrue or absurd”.

Blomfield rumours

There was a timely resurfacing of rumours about Matthew Blomfield yesterday in Lauda Finem death threat? Blomfield has  been the subject of a number of claims and rumours here over the past year or so.

Timely because I have investigating some of these claims, and I have asked Blomfield about them. I don’t know Blomfield personally and have never met him, but this was made a personal issue for me when in July Lauda Finem claimed I was one of “particularly dirty dozen – just a few of Blomfield’s known bent Kiwi media mates, MSM, Bloggers and their industry associates.”

They have made other absurd claims about me that have more than minor hints of delusion and maliciousness.

Lauda Finem have been strong critics of Blomfield. Their posts do contain some facts, but they are so peppered with claims that have obviously been made up it’s unwise to take anything they claim seriously. And if challenged or criticised they have a habit of ignoring the issues raised and resorting to personal attacks.

Cameron Slater and Whale Oil have in the past also been strong critics of Blomfield and have made many accusations. Blomfield has taken defamation action against Slater and through a resulting court agreement Whale Oil has been cleansed of Blomfield attacks and Slater has made an undertaking to not perpetuate any attacks.

If you want some background on this see http://www.thepaepae.com/wp-uploads/2014/09/CIV-2013-404-005218.pdf

Lauda Finem and Whale Oil attacks on Blomfield have had similarities and I don’t think either are credible overall. I haven’t seem them supported by many unembellished facts.

And both have records of promising revelations that back up their claims on a range of issues. And promising. And nothing significant eventuates.

As stated earlier Blomfield has received some attention here. Yesterday DaveG said:

It’s my belief in the long haul Slater and LF will be proven correct over Blomfield, I have met the man, and many people said the same thing, they were correct.

But I haven’t seen much of this proof. And I also question “many people said the same thing”. For example on Your NZ it may have appeared that quite a few people have said the same thing but the fact is that most “people” here criticising Blomfield has been just one person using different pseudonyms. He has at times  appeared to have conversations with himself, supporting his own assertions.

I believe that this same person has used multiple identities on other forums as well.

“Many people” may be a deliberate illusion.

Note that DaveG does appear to me to be a separate person. He may have been swayed by the appearance of many opinions that are in fact misleading.

So what are the claims against Blomfield? DaveG said:

“MB hasn’t” not that you know of, the dark side operate in mysterious ways. My belief is there is enough corporate evidence and skeletons to tell a very damning story.

Belief isn’t facts. It’s known that Blomfield has had a business failure and was bankrupted.

I’ve seen claims of dodgy business dealings. I asked Blomfield if there is currently any legal action or investigation against him. He said there isn’t.

One of the things at the centre of issues involving Blomfield and Slater is a hard drive that contains extensive communication and business data of Blomfields.

Blomfield has shown me a court memorandum that shows that an investigation of this hard drive was carried out involving the Official Assignee and the Serious Fraud Office. These investigations were a result of complaints made by Cameron Slater.

This memorandum cites a statement that makes it clear that no illegal activity was discovered from the hard drive investigation.

If anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, and if anyone can provide evidence of any subsequent or current legal or Government department investigation into Blomfield then please do so.

DaveG said:

Google MB’s name and the response details many deals, I couldn’t post links to them all.

Excluding Lauda Finem (who features in search results) can you post any links to any?

DaveG also brought up another of the rumours about Blomfield.

Blomfield will be taken down by someone, we already know some thug assaulted him in his own home, rumoured to be a drug debt (but not substantiated), and we know it wasn’t Slater. The guy has made enemies all over the place, and caused major heart ache and pain for many many people.

From what I’ve seen “rumoured to be a drug debt” is just a rumour, and potentially a deliberately malicious or diversionary rumour.

Yes, we know it wasn’t Slater because someone else has been arrested, convicted and imprisoned for the assault.

What I don’t know is what the motive for the attack was. I asked Blomfield and he says he doesn’t know. He showed me a Police Summary of Facts that states no motive is known.

(Blomfield had previously said he would give me this Summary of Facts to publish. As it contains graphic details of a horrific attack involving a firearm and a family, and provides no evidence of motive – the defendant declined to comment – I see no benefit in or reason for publishing this).

Are there any claims against Blomfield that are backed by facts? If so where are the facts?

I’m certain I haven’t been shown the whole truth, and nothing but the truth could be debatable, but Blomfield has shown me court documents that support his side of the story.

As far as I’ve seen the other side of the story has come primarily from Whale Oil and Lauda Finem or associated individuals, who lack in credibility and have questionable motives.

If anyone, including Whale Oil and Lauda Finem, can provide credible evidence, untainted by fiction, fantasy and vindictiveness, then where is it?

I had taken a neutral stance on Blomfield issues, and allowed different views to be expressed. But then I was dumped in the middle of it by ridiculous claims made on an anonymous blog. So I became more interested in seeking facts.

So far Blomfield has answered questions and provided documents that support his claims. My communications with him have been cordial and without any hint of threat or pressure – he has just told me his side of the story.

From the other side I have been accused of serious complicity by Lauda Finem. When I have posted anything about it they have reacted with abuse and threats and implied threats and more posts with more outlandish accusations.

Now, anyone is free to post their opinion or details about any of this here, providing it doesn’t have legal risk to those who post it or to myself.

But any claims or accusations about Blomfield are likely to be questioned, and supporting evidence will be asked for (“google it”, Whale Oil and Lauda Finem aren’t sufficient).

Perpetuating unsubstantiated rumours will be viewed with suspicion.

There’s usually two sides to any issue. So far to me one side has cordially provided some answers with some credibility (I’m viewing that cautiously) while the other side remains highly questionable in what they claim and how they act. And the more I see the less credible they become. They have the opportunity to reverse that with substantial facts without embellishment of fiction or personal attack. Another hissy fit won’t help their case.

Lauda Finem death threat?

Lauda Finem have a record of playing dirty, but this time they have lowered themselves to what appears to be an implied death threat.

Lauda Finem share a common trait with Whale Oil – a lot of merit and potential in some of what they have done, but crapping on their own credibility by overestimating and overusing their power, and attacking abusing anyone who criticises them. Neither seem to have woken up to the fact that if you keep shitting on people you end up flushing yourself down the toilet.

Yesterday on Open Forum there was a discussion on Cameron Slater (as is common here) that led to some comments critical of Lauda Finem as well. I added a couple of fairly vague comments.

LF have a poor record of how they deal with criticism, and they took to attacking the messengers again.

LF have previously posted these comments:

Other than a few Twitter jibes following Pete Georges decision to allow his own blog to be splattered with anti Lauda Finem graffiti, team LF have had very little to do with the man.

They seem to have become obsessed with me. They don’t like their dirty behaviour exposed.

LF find Pete George’s online games boring. That’s in large part why we confine any comment we do make to twitter, so if Pete George does publish any stories unflattering of team LF then readers are unlikely to see a response on this website, Laudafinem.com. Team members are far more likely to post any response, if one is even required, via LF’s twitter feed.

I presume this refers to @LaudaFinem and @[Deleted as per court order] tag teaming on Twitter. And that’s how they responded last night.

LFdeaththreat

The implication of that is getting low, even by their standards.

They added this tweet:

LFSalaciousCrumbTweetThey seem to have an obsession that everyone conspires against them in their ongoing feud with Blomfield. And in any case what Salacious P Crumb said was quite reasonable expression of opinion, whoever uses the pseudonym (I don’t know and it’s not my business to know).

They don’t seem to understand how things work on an open blog, where any individual can discuss topics they want to discuss without censorship and without taking sides.

Lauda Finem seem to think that Your NZ should have no criticism of them at all but should allow them to expand their shitty fight against Blomfield here under multiple monikers – that accusation against Blomfield is very ironic.

I’m not going to censor comment on Lauda Finem here despite their stalking, attacks and threats.

They claim they are ‘justice campaigners’ – but justice should be open and honest. Lauda Finem seem to have problems understanding law and justice principles – they intimidate and threaten and try and gag anyone exposing their dodgy practices and think they have impunity from the law themselves.

Their delusions are likely to catch up on them.

Obviously exposing them again stands a high chance of resulting in another lengthy, misleading, dishonest (or ignorant, it can’t be ruled out that they believe their nonsense) avalanche of accusations and attacks on their blog, that’s how they operate. So be it.

They seem to be nuts but that shouldn’t exempt their dirty tactics from exposure.

UPDATE: not surprisingly they are now trying to play down their tweet:

You’ll have to try harder than that @PeteDGeorge, claiming metaphor as a death threat is desperate you tragic fuck –

Who is tragic? Their understanding of what a metaphor is seems as dodgy as their understanding of many things.

Who are the sock puppets?

Will the sock puppets please own up!

It wouldn’t be advisable to believe anything posted on Pete Georges blog, YourNZ, quite aside from the fact that most of the comments are the work of what the even bigger idiot Lynn Prentice likes to call sock-puppets, the articles that Pete George himself produces always have more holes in them than a decent Chinois

Very funny. I think that regular readers and contributors here will see that for the nonsense that it is.

It may not be hypocrisy because they may believe their own bull but this shows how Lauda Finem can’t be taken seriously. Sure they may raise some valid issues at times but anything they post is so smothered in false assumptions or deliberate lies, conspiracy theories, over-wrought obsessions, lame attempts at dis-association, abuse and defamation it’s impossible to know what is actually grounded on fact. Most of it is exaggerated at best, some is plain wrong(the only question is whether they know it’s wrong or not).

Claiming posts here are full of holes is very ironic given how many flaws there are in much of their flaming.

And the funniest (most ironic) thing is that the most active socket puppets here have been the multi-pseudonymous muppets associated with LF.

Lauda findem

An interesting comment on the latest Lauda Finem post:

Hi Anmol, aka “Sumit” and “Neutral”, you probably did not realise it but using different (bogus) email addresses does not conceal your true identity or in anyway prevent Lauda Finem knowing that you are posting from the same IP address. If you would like to put your side of the story Anmol then do so honestly, feel free to write to us here at Lauda Finem using the contact button top right of every LF page.

Good to see that LF now seem to think that concealing identities and using different (bogus) email addresses and different pseudonyms is not a good look.

Associates of LF have done exactly the same thing on Lauda Finem and here in the past, using multiple fake ID. Perhaps they will now live by the standards they ask of others.

It’s interesting to see them asking someone else to put their side of the story ‘honestly’ when they still conceal their own identities, and still try to circumvent New Zealand laws.

If they were confident in their campaigns they would be as honest as they ask others to be.

Lauda Finem versus Whale Oil – bust up or sham?

On Monday Lauda Finem moved their blog site to a different platform and a different country .

Yesterday Whale Oil posted

ANMOL SETH: ‘FRAUDONAIRE EXTRAORDINAIRE’
by Cameron Slater on August 25, 2015 at 12:30pm

This post is presented as an investigation by journalist Stephen Cook into an alleged conman.

Soon after that Lauda Finem posted this:

‘FRAUDONAIRE EXTRAORDINAIRE’? Did Slater’s mob really think they’d get away with trying to pull the wool?

In this they slam Camero Slater and Pete Belt.

In this article there was absolutely no mention of who had in reality been largely responsible for investigating shonky Indian, Seth Anmol.

In fact Slater’s online associate and moderator “Pete” even went so far as to falsely lead W/O readers and commenters to believe that it had been their own investigative journalist, aka Stephen Cook that was solely responsible.

That claim by “Pete” is however not only disingenuous, it’s completely false. Now we don’t mind Cameron Slater using material from the LF’s investigations into Matthew John Blomfield, after all that’s why we’ve been investigating the bloke, but we do think that credit should given where credit is due.

And:

Now we don’t mind Slater using LF’s work, we don’t even mind the fact that he did so without consulting us or seeking our permission or approval, after all he is a desperate man. We do however draw the line at Slater and Cook taking the credit for finding Anmol and the hundreds of hours of research and investigative work that team LF have put into the investigation of the Anmol/(redacted) case over the past 12 months.

For either Slater, Stephen Cook or Slater’s flunkey “Pete” to now claim that their work resulted in the exposing of Seth Anmol is not only false, its disingenuous, in fact it’s nothing short of complete and utter bullshit.

And:

Slater’s own laziness, inability to investigate and lack of attention to detail has been largely responsible for the Blomfield defamation affair dragging on for as long as it has, it also put his sources at serious risk of becoming Blomfields victims for a second time.

Now given that there has been one person in particular who has promoted his feuding via both Whale Oil and Lauda Finem, does this post signal that there’s been a bust up?

Or is it a sham to try and distance Lauda Finem from Whale Oil?

Lauda Finem try to claim they have no connection with New Zealand although recent posts in particular have been obviously very NZ-centric with information posted that could only come directly from  NZ sources. They share a particular obsession with Blomfield.

But either some of those sources are becoming nervous about situtations they have got themselves into so are trying to isolate themselves, or there’s been some sort of bust up.