Fake claims at Whale Oil about mainstream media news coverage

Whale Oil has criticised mainstream media for years, claiming to be some sort of great new alternative –  ironically while relying a lot on MSM content for many of their posts.

On Tuesday they blasted MSM for not covering a story from a long time continuation of Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, but author SB either didn’t check basic facts, or deliberately posted fake claims.

The post from Tuesday: The mainstream media won’t cover this story so Whaleoil will

by SB on May 7, 2019 at 8:00am

Sadly when Israelis are being killed, their houses destroyed and their lives under constant threat from terrorists the Mainstream media do not care. They only lift their head up to write an article when one of the countless rockets fired from Gaza lands in Gaza and kills their own children. Then the media rocks up to show the bloody corpse of the Palestinian child and claim that it was a rocket from Israel that caused the child’s death.

The best way for Whaleoil to bring you up to speed with what has been going on is to put together the below collection from social media as without it you would have no idea that anything of note was happening thanks to the disinterest of the mainstream media.

The problem with this is that New Zealand media had been covering this days beforehand.

Sunday 5 May:

Monday 6 May:

The local real media had moved on from this story by the time SB got around to saying something about it, feeding fake comments:

Ian: ” Thank goodness we have Whaleoil . . . MSM also starve us of any news from South Africa as well as Israel, unless it can portray white people and non-muslims as evil and aggressors.

WIN: “The first I heard about the attacks was a post on WO Backchat two nights ago, which prompted me to look at overseas news sources for info. Amazing it’s ignored by NZ MSM.”

John doe: “Well done SB. Please keep following up. The biggest event in the world in the last 34 hours and silence from our MSM. They are a disgrace and should be called out as such. I simply can not understand how they can not impartially report on this terrorist attack on the only democratic state in the region.”

avionz: “Thank you for keeping us up to date with this situation SB. Our mendacious media either avoid mention of Israel or spew biased propaganda. Thank goodness for the people on WO who think for themselves and are ready to point out the hypocrisy from our leaders, the media and the UN. Shalom.”

Sailor Sam: “This is not confined to NZ, the left wing propaganda machine that is the government owned ABC has no mention of it at all, lots about baby Sussex though.”

Also false.

All of those reports make it clear Israel reacted to rockets fired from Gaza.

Even The Daily Blog posted on the rocket initiated escalation days before WO:

There is plenty the media can legitimately be criticised for without making fake claims.

Supplementing MSM

If you can’t get enough MSM you might like to supplement it with this:


I presume you knew that MSM stood for methylsulfonylmethane.

If you feel a like you are lacking in methylsulfonylmethane, microcrystalline cellulose, hydroxypropyl cellulose, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide, stearic acid, hydroxypropylmethyl cellulose and vegetable glycerin then MSM might be just what you wanted.

And it must be healthy because it’s sugar, salt and starch free. I presume it’s also cyanide free but they don’t mention that.


WebMD says that MSM is used to control snoring.

MSM is also used to control snoring. In fact, directions for making MSM nose drops for snoring have been published, but there’s no evidence that MSM has any effect on snoring.

Who needs evidence when it comes to popping pill supplements?

MSM is also used for:

Chronic pain, osteoarthritis, joint inflammation, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoporosis, bursitis, tendonitis, tenosynovitis, musculoskeletal pain, muscle cramps, scleroderma, scar tissue, stretch marks, hair loss, wrinkles, protection against sun/wind burn, eye inflammation, oral hygiene, periodontal disease, wounds, cuts, and abrasions/accelerated wound healing.

Relief of allergies, chronic constipation, “sour stomach”, ulcers, a bowel disease called diverticulosis, premenstrual syndrome (PMS), mood elevation, obesity, poor circulation, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, liver problems, Alzheimer’s disease, lung disorders including emphysema and pneumonia, chronic fatigue syndrome, autoimmune disorders (systemic lupus erythematous), HIV infection and AIDS, and cancer (breast cancer and colon cancer).

MSM is also used for relief of allergies, chronic constipation, “sour stomach”, ulcers, a bowel disease called diverticulosis, premenstrual syndrome (PMS), mood elevation, obesity, poor circulation, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. It is also used for type 2 diabetes, liver problems, Alzheimer’s disease, lung disorders including emphysema and pneumonia, chronic fatigue syndrome, autoimmune disorders (systemic lupus erythematous), HIV infection and AIDS, and cancer (breast cancer and colon cancer).

Eye inflammation, mucous membrane inflammation, temporomandibular joint (TMJ) problems, leg cramps, migraine, headaches, hangover, parasitic infections of the intestinal and urogenital tracts including Trichomonas vaginalis and Giardia, yeast infection, insect bites, radiation poisioning, and to boost the immune system.

Sounds like it’s very versatile.

You may have heard about MSM because of the book The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain. There isn’t much published scientific research to support its use.

Never mind about a lack of scientific research to support it’s use.

More MSM must be better for us.

Or we could eat food instead, that used to work.

Bradbury bollocks – Shame on the rottten MSM!!!

Blaming the media for one’s political debacles is common in the blogs, like this from ‘xtasy’ at The Standard.

The problem is that many “journalists” are themselves rather right leaning, fond of Key and his government, so they willingly quote such supposed “independent” advice on matters. The Taxpayer’s Union and the likes are being quoted and invited by all kinds of MSM, ranging from the likes of Radio 1ZB and Radio Live over to even Radio NZ National (e.g. Jim Mora) for radio, also by the large TV news channels, and print media.

Perhaps we should apply the “three strikes and you are out” to all journalists quoting or inviting such organisations?

Apart from that the bias is just gob smacking, and listening in to Radio Live after 03 pm this afternoon, Duncan Garner was ranting on about Cunliffe again, and why he had not fronted up with having used a trust for assisting his candidacy in the leadership competition for Labour’s leader. He even speculated that one of the two donors that David Cunliffe refused to name, may be Kim Dotcom.

This kind of stuff comes from the likes of Garner, Gower and a fair few others somewhat regularly, and it is predominantly targeted at Labour and the Greens, while the Nats and Key are mostly let off lightly.

It seems to be getting worse by the day, and no matter how many apologies, adjustments and improvements Cunliffe may come with, he seems to be the target now, to be shot to pieces, before the election even takes place.

Shame on the rottten MSM!!!

But it looks more desperate when it is in a blog post at one of the big blogs. Martyn Bradbury at The Daily Blog in Latest msm Cunliffe feeding frenzy over donations goes into excuse and blame overdrive.


In a new style of campaigning via the Labour leadership campaign, Cunliffe decided to use a private trust to collect donations. The mainstream media feeding frenzy is the usual froth from a Press Gallery now seemingly taking verbatim editorials from John Key.

An absurd claim.

I don’t care that Cunliffe used a trust for the leadership campaign, this Government are well known for the manner in which they demonise anyone dissenting and the secrecy the trust provided was to protect donors, it wasn’t to hide them and Cunliffe’s offered to pay back everyone not prepared to publicly declare.

The reasons why they were anonymous is the deciding issue here, not how.

So blatant hypocrisy doesn’t matter, the left can do anything to avoid ‘demonisation’.

Voters don’t give a toss about who donated what in a leadership contest, they care about affordable housing, child poverty and providing protections to our fragile environment. They care about sustainable jobs, rising inequality and well funded education. They care about mass surveillance and unsafe work places.

The mainstream corporate media on the other hand care about constructing a narrative to discredit Cunliffe. Astounding that Judith Collins appears to front for her Husband’s company in direct conflict with the Cabinet Manuel, and we don’t see anywhere near the level of media scrutiny of that.

With media bias like this, I’m surprised Key isn’t polling 70%.

With bloggers like this I’m surprised that Mana, the Internet Party and Labour aren’t soaring in the polls.

Just kidding.

With excuses like this and blaming anyone but your own ineptness it’s not surprising the left are failing to connect with voters and that voters are deserting elections in droves.

Brown affairs: Who watches the watchdog?

A comment by blokeintakapuna at Whale Oil.

Why the Governor General needs to investigate Auckland democracy issues…
and whilst there, look at the political / media corruption issues also.

Our form of democracy is a 2-sided coin. Firstly, we all get “free” elections on a regular basis where all of us are free to choose who we wish to vote for and in a transparent, credible manner and with correct over-sight, the winner is eventually announced soon after voting finishes. That winner then needs to uphold the laws and expectations from the mandate they created for themselves by the values and virtues of who and what they campaigned and crusaded on as an individual.

They are supposed to not only help create the by-laws to help our societies function better, they are required by virtue of being the elected office holder, to actually up hold the laws, ethics and standards of those laws, rules and expectations.

The other-side to our democracy coin, is the checks and balances. Keeping the elected officials and politicians honest, corruption free and being held to account. The so-called mandate of the 4th Estate – the traditional media.

However – when the “watchdog” traditional media become complicit in assisting an elected official to maintain mass subterfuge on all of the population… even aiding and assisting with the façade, through rate-payer funded personal using rate-payer funded resources, to launch coordinated smear campaigns – by the watchdog 4th Estate – on the messenger that revealed the political corruption – well then it really is time our entire democratic systems were investigated… independently. For the sake of “Perception” if nothing else.

…and the coordinated smear campaigns are easily proven too. The Press Council can just review the likes of the Herald’s coverage and that of some of their captured journalists and their attempts at character assassinations of the messenger that spoke up about the corrupt practises by the Mayor elect. For these so-called journalist professionals have nailed their colours the masthead by the tone and calibre of their “articles” ..and it’s that same masthead from which they have hoisted their own petard.

When the democracy Watchdog has been captured and lulled into more of a lapdog of the Left, it’s an ugly stain on the political sofa in the Mayor’s office. When the Authorities can see our democracy and democratic processes being subverted for secret agenda’s of a select few and then elect to sit on the side-lines whilst the messenger gets attacked for exposing the political corruption to the disinfecting qualities of dazzling sunlight…

Our democracy can only function correctly with proper checks and balances. The checks it seems are in the post… and the balances are somewhat MIA.

The Governor General needs a microscope, rubber gloves, and the stomach to lift up the rug in the Mayor’s office and see what’s been swept under there…

Who watches the watchers when the watchdog has become a drooling lapdog? …and a willing, complicit component of coordinated subterfuge upon the Auckland population and NZ’s democratic freedom?

‘The Standard’ and ‘the MSM’

The Standard is a precious part of the political blogosphere, being by far the largest left wing forum in New Zealand. It provides a valuable outlet for many people and is a useful insight into the thinking of some parts of the political spectrum and the parties of the left.

But The Standard has another sort of prevalent preciousness. The authors and moderators can be oversensitive to anyone referring to ‘The Standard’ and anyone linking The Standard with the Labour Party. There’s an fresh example of this in today’s Open Mic when ‘Jenny’ commented:

A National Government led New Zealand has voted with the majority of the world in Legitimising the Palestinian cause.

Why has the Labour Leader been silent on this issue?

So far a fair question. Then…

Why when it has been carried in virtually every other media have there been no posts from The Standard authors on this historic UN vote?

Are the writers for The Standard and the Labour Party so sectarian that they won’t give credit to the government even when it is due?

Is this the reason for The Standard’s silence on this historic event?

If so then it shows why Labour is losing the people’s support. This sort of sectarian pettiness is just boring to most people.

A few generalisations for sure, but there are also clear references to “The Standard authors “, and “the writers for The Standard and the Labour Party” differentiates the two entities, it doesn’t speak of them as one. But author ‘karol’ responds with a standard sort of lecture.

Jenny, “The Standard” doesn’t decide to write or not to write on anything.  The Standard is not part of the Labour Party.  I have not party voted for Labour for a few elections. Each writer chooses what to write about when they have time.  There are many pressing issues relevant to left wing NZ’ers.

Of course celebrate the historic  decision.  You also should refresh you knowledge of the site policies.

That is a fairly standard reprimand, especially pointing to ‘the site policies’.

Attacking the blog site, or attributing a mind to a machine (ie talking about The Standard as if it had an opinion), or trying to imply that the computer that runs the site has some kind of mind control over authors and commentators is not allowed. 

Apart from being overly precious and pedantic there is some hypocrisy here, quickly illustrated by karol in a comment on the same thread:

“I almost commented that as well, but haven’t seen any MSM comment on how China voted.”

That’s exactly the same sort of generalisation as “The Standard’s silence “. And in a post yesterday, The political media and the blogs…

  • lprent (Standard sysop and chief moderator/humiliator) quotes Chris Trotter:
    – “the current behaviour of the “mainstream media” (MSM)”
    – “not abandoning the MSM
    – “That’s when the MSM should really begin to worry.”
    – “has crept into the MSM’s coverage of blogs”
    – “What if the MSM’s coverage…”
    – “some extremely disturbing questions about the credibility and trustworthiness of MSM journalism?”
  • lprent (Standard sysop and chief moderator/humiliator) says:
    – “a carefully constructed fiction of media and the beltway PR”
    – “the message that the media reported”.
    – “the modern news media in action”
  • Redlogix (Standard author and moderator) says in the first comment “I wonder exactly what the MSM response will be.”
  • karol (Standard author and current complainer) says “it can provide a corrective to the MSM’s abuse of their power”.

That’s just in one post. Plus a number of other commenters freely referred to ‘the media’ without censure.

If The Standard wants to be seen as a prominent player in the new media they will have to get used to be referred to as ‘The Standard’ (and they’re just a small part of a much wider blogosphere and social media).

But if anyone refers to ‘The Standard’, no matter how carefully, the weight of Standard authority jumps on it.

Another comment from lprent in that same posts:

  • “You really are a authoritarian loving dork aren’t you….”

Time warped bloggers versus MSM

RRM commented on Kiwiblog about the blogger versus MSM feud:

Someone who lives in both worlds might just force the rest of them to up their game.

It’s slowly dawning on me (I’m a leftist after all :-P ) that Cameron Slater’s Truth editorship has potential to really show up the print news media – provided he brings with him the style that made whale oil what it is. His blog is pretty crude at times but he’s generally right in what he say,s and he’s pretty incisive and seems to often be well ahead of the pack. It’s got to be easier to tame that a bit for print, than it would be to try to warm up an average news outfit like Stuff…?

My response:

RRM I agree that a damn good shake up of news media would do a lot of good, and as you say Whale is ahead of the pack. It will be interesting to see how Truth goes.

It’s also interesting to see the rise in interest from The Standard and Trotter and their conflicting ideas.

– They helped promote a leadership debate through their blogging
– They complained bitterly when MSM promoted a leadership challenge at the conference
– They blast the MSM for their incompetent old ways
– Relishing the new found attention the MSM gave them they suddenly think they have power
– Part of that power is holding the MSM to account
– They blast the MSM for daring to hold them to account
– They vigorously defend their right to comment anonymously
– They blast MSM identities
– They feed off attention given to them by MSM identities

And so it goes on. They are now talking this up into a major class struggle, the evil MSM versus the brave anonymous bloggers. The new battle (having so far lost their battle to kick Shearer out).

They make some valid points along the way, and I agree that MSM needs a good shakeup and ordinary people should and can have more say.

But they have a major problem, and it seems to be very entrenched. As old school political activists they have trouble thinking beyond “us and them”. They have fought left versus right, Labour versus national, worker versus boss.

So they automatically see this as blogger (unless it’s Brian Edwards who’s not a real blogger anyway, he’s really one of them) versus MSM. And it’s a battle that must be won for the good of humanity.

flipper observes:

Pete , the real problem for the left is that the are caught in a 1900 – 1928 time warp.

Yes, some of them are. I can see it prominently in the internal conflicts in Labour. And the brave new bloggers also have some warped conflicts between their old political ways and new online tools.

Back to Whale. He’s got it much better sussed, he has it worked out and they are just wiping the sleep from their eyes.. It’s not an either/or us versus them battle.

It’s a merge and adapt opportunity. Use the strengths of the old with the advances of the new.


Have pro PPL people helped condemn it?

In a slow news week the instant answer mainstream and social medias made Paid Parental Leave a big issue. It didn’t take long for options for halting the bill to be examined and publicised.

Did this hand National the NO option on a plate?

Yesterday Bill English said that National would veto the Paid Parental Leave bill at the third reading. That’s as good as a death sentence, perhaps a year before the execution.

How much of a factor have political pundits and media (MSM and social) been? Have pro PPL pundits precipitated the bill’s futile future?

Perhaps it was inevitable. A bill that imposes significant costs on the Government budget will probably always struggle to get throught, especially in times of major fiscal restraint. And the political media and blog punditry can’t help themselves from trying to find and demand instant answers.

Could it have worked any differently?

What if the bill had been drawn during a busy political news time and was mostly ignored.

In time it would have been introduced to parliament, and quite possibly voted to the committee stage. More time, the pros and cons being discussed and weighed up without political promotion and emotion.

Nine or twelve months later it may have made it to the third reading, possibly similar to it’s introduced proposals, possibly modified with different costs and an extended phase in timeframe to allow for a sluggish economy.

By the third reading, probably next year, the economic outlook may be looking much better. Starting to nervously eye the 2014 election and with less justification to be miserly National may have found it very difficult to stand in the way of the PPL.

Yesterday the punditry, pushing for their usual instant answers, made it easy for Bill English squash the PPL. All he had to do was claim tough times with a very tight budget. Next year National may have found their position much more awkward.

But the impatience of the MS and social medias handed National a NO option on a plate.

It probably couldn’t have happened any differently, you can’t control mass media and stop them launching into potentially counter productive publicity, it’s just what they do.

But we can all play a part in the end result. And often it’s not what we wanted.