A BLiP flap over accusations of John Key lying quickly flipped to accusing a Newshub update of covering up the lying.
Yesterday BLiP posted Oooops! at The Standard which showed two headlines:
The first from NZ Herald timed and dated Tuesday 3 May 2016 12:32 pm:
Prime Minister John Key agrees lawyer’s email was ‘sloppily written”
Speaking to reporters this morning, Mr Key said he had discussed the issue with Mr Whitney, who works at Auckland based firm Antipodes Trust Group.
He is absolutely confident my version of events is correct,” he said.
The second from Newshub times and dated Thursday 5 May 2016 8:49 am:
Key hasn’t spoken to his lawyer about email yet
Prime Minister John Key hasn’t spoken to his lawyer since it emerged he lobbied Inland Revenue against changes to foreign trust rules.
In comments a number of people accepted two non-specific news reports as gospel and as proof that John Key lied.
On May 3rd, Key says his lawyer agrees with him that the email was sloppily written and did not reflect what actually happened.
On May 5th, Key says he hasn’t spoken to his lawyer.
Both statements cannot be true together. At least one, most likely both, must be a lie.
Neither news report, as far as they are shown at The Standard, specify timing, nor which emails they are referring to.
Assumptions that most likely both reports “must be a lie” are not supported by anything quoting what Key said.
Magisterium went against the flow…
That’s not correct.
The Tuesday article says that Key spoke to Whitney to confirm that Key’s recollection of their conversation (“not my area, contact the Ministry”) was correct.
The Thursday article says that Key had not spoken to Whitney since it became known that Whitney had emailed the Ministry to lobby about tax policy.
These two articles do not contradict each other.
[BLiP: It is impossible for someone able to type, spell correctly, apply relatively competent grammar, and use the internet to be as stupid as you are trying to appear. For this reason, its obvious you are trolling. Banned for one week.]
…and was banned.
The New Student points out:
Perhaps Magisterium has a fair point, as it seems Satherley’s story has changed somewhat. All I can find by Satherley on NewsHub is “Key doesn’t hold a grudge against lawyer” Thursday 5 May 2016, 8.49 am. The line that’s in the above picture is nowhere to be found in this version of the article. I’m not terribly bright so you should check for yourself if I have it straight.
The quote is: “I haven’t caught up with him because look, I’ve been busy,” I can’t watch/listen to any media as I’m on crummy school computer at the moment.
From this article, the last time they “caught up” is not entirely clear. So going back to the articles on the sloppy email issue, the last time seems to have been whenever that discussion (supposedly) took place. Maybe that’s why the article has since been amended.
James also says:
Blip – you do know that the headline you are mentioning is completely gone right?
Its been completely updated. So perhaps there was a issue with the original article as opposed to Key telling a lie?
BLiP flips from accepting the word od two news reports as definitive proof of Key lying to accusing Newshub of “helping John Key cover the lie up”.
Yep, Newshub is helping John Key cover the lie up. If you click on the link you will see that the URL still contains the original headline.
With the MSM now actively colluding with John Key in deceiving New Zealanders, it always helps to get a screen cap.
The Newshub article now has a different headline and opening paragraph (although the time and date are the same and the URL matches the original headline:.
Key doesn’t hold a grudge against lawyer
Prime Minister John Key has revealed he met his longstanding lawyer Ken Whitney at antenatal classes more than 20 years ago, when Mr Key’s wife Bronagh was pregnant with their first child, Stephanie.
Mr Key says he doesn’t hold a grudge against Mr Whitney, despite the fallout from the lawyer’s lobbying of Inland Revenue (IRD) against changes to foreign trust rules.
“I haven’t caught up with him because look, I’ve been busy,” he told More FM’s Si and Gary show on Thursday.
Non-quoted ‘Key hasn’t spoken to his lawyer’ has changed to a quote “I haven’t caught up with him because look, I’ve been busy.”
That may or may not be contradictory. Catching up with someone may or may not be the same as speaking to them.
The Herald article also has a changed headline and appears to have additional detail or is rearranged:
Email was ‘sloppily written’: Key
Prime Minister John Key says his lawyer has agreed that an email that used Mr Key’s name to lobby a minister against a crackdown on foreign trusts was “sloppily written”.
Mr Key said yesterday that his personal lawyer Ken Whitney had misrepresented him in an email to former Revenue Minister Todd McClay.
The email, sent in December 2014, said: “We are concerned that there appears to be a sudden change of view by the IRD in respect of their previous support for the [foreign trusts] industry.
“I have spoken to the Prime Minister about this and he advised that the Government has no plans to change the status of the foreign trust regime.”
Speaking to reporters this morning, Mr Key said he had discussed the issue with Mr Whitney, who works at Auckland-based firm Antipodes Trust Group.
“He is absolutely confident my version of events is correct,” he said.
“Maybe the email was sloppily written. I was certainly aware that we weren’t making any changes.”
Again, speaking with someone about a specific issue may or may not be the same as catching up with them.
I don’t think there is sufficient detail here to claim ‘Key lied!’ and then when the news story changes claim ‘Newshub covered up a lie!’.
News articles online are often changed, perhaps as more information comes to had, and sometimes due to feed back.
I have pointed out factual mistakes and as a result articles have been updated to be more accurate, not to cover up anything.
I would hope that an updated MSM article was more reliable than a BLiP on a blog flipping from taking vague reports as absolute evidence of a terrible lie to accusing the media of covering up lies when they change their content.