Oprah Winfrey’s “a new day is on the horizon!” speech

Pundits are saying that a speech by Oprah Winfrey at the Golden Globe awards is a clear and deliberate tester for beginning a presidential campaign.

The much talked about lines Winfrey spoke:

“I want all the girls watching here, now, to know that a new day is on the horizon! And when that new day finally dawns, it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men, fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say ‘Me too’ again.”

Her speech:

The transcript of Winfrey’s full speech.

CNN: Oprah’s Golden Globes speech sounds like the start of a presidential campaign

CNN: Oprah knew exactly what she was doing on Sunday night

Winfrey knew she would be seated in the front row, dead center of the awards ceremony. She knew that she would give a speech that everyone in that room — and watching on TV — would stop to pay attention to. And so, she chose her words carefully. That those words sounded so much like the rhetoric of a campaign was not by accident. You don’t go from where Oprah started her life to where she is today by not understanding moments and opportunities — and what the words you choose mean.

Yes, I know Oprah has repeatedly expressed a reluctance-bordering-on-unwillingness to run for office.

“There will be no running for office of any kind for me,” she said on CBS’ morning show last fall. “I will never run for public office,” she said on The Hollywood Reporter podcast in the summer of 2017.

And, she still may not — although her longtime partner, Stedman Graham, told the Los Angeles Times on Sunday night that “It’s up to the people. She would absolutely do it.” Plus, two of Winfrey’s close friends told CNN’s Brian Stelter Monday that she is”actively thinking” about running for president.

But she has no political experience! Ronald Reagan was an actor who became president, but he also had a background in office, serving as Governor of California from 1967 to 1975, before becoming president in 1981.

Of course Trump has set a precedent for a reality TV ‘celebrity’ with no political experience becoming president. That may make voters more wary of electing a non-politician. Or not in an increasingly celebrity obsessed world.

 

Polls turn slightly to Clinton

After closing substantially for a week US polls to close up to maintain a small average margin for Hillary Trump over Donald Trump, but over the last couple of days they have turned back slightly in Clinton’s favour.

Yesterday’s news that the FBI had found nothing that would change their decision not to charge Clinton over emails won’t be reflected in these polls.

“Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July,” Comey wrote in a letter to congressional committee chairmen.

The RCP 4 way poll average is now +2.9% for Clinton. FiveThirtyEight’s ‘chane of winning trend:

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This is good news for Clinton but 20 million votes have been cast over the last week so it may or may not be too late to rescue her campaign.

Some significant numbers from FiveThirtyEight:

6 percentage points

In Nevada, more registered Democrats have turned out for early voting than registered Republicans by a six percentage point margin. In 2012, 70 percent of Nevada voters did so early, so this sizable lead could mean that the Silver State is already decided for Hillary Clinton. [FiveThirtyEight]

565,000

According to a University of Florida professor’s analysis, that’s the number of Hispanic voters who had cast in-person early ballots in Florida as of Saturday, double the number in 2012. Factoring in absentee ballots, 911,000 Hispanic Floridians have already voted. [The Miami Herald]

48.4 percent

That’s the expected share of the popular vote that Hillary Clinton is forecasted to win, based on the latest from the FiveThirtyEight model. Donald Trump is projected to get 45.3 percent, but there are a solid range of possibilities, so it’s worth checking out the model every minute of every day until you feel certain of your place in the world. [FiveThirtyEight]

But popular vote doesn’t win the presidency. There is still a lot of uncertainty over the result. Polls are close in a number of the key states.

Real Clear Politics:

Latest State Polls

According to FiveThirtyEight Trump needs to win all of Florida, North Carolina, Nevada and New Hampshire to get enough electoral votes.

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http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Awfulization of America

The US presidential campaign blunders on. Both candidates blunder on.

The poll averages keep closing, but there are varying individual results. Due to all the twists and turns and convulsions in the campaign I think it is impossible to predict what the election outcome will be.

I think the big question now is will the US slide into turmoil straight after the election? Or will that be delayed until whoever doesn’t lose takes over in January?

The campaign has been an avalanche of ugly, but this may be just the entrée to the awfulisation of America. (Or should that be awfulization?)

US polls closing pre-FBI effect

The US presidential election has been rocked by a vague FBI announcement of an investigation into emails that may have some link to Hillary Clinton’s controversial email server.

The FBI asnnouncing an investigation in advance is unusual, and announcing it less than two weeks before an election with early voting already under way in many states is unprecedented.

There has been no claim of proof of wrongdoing. FBI director James Comey stated “…the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant”.

However Donald Trump is claiming charged and convicted, and his chanting crowds have sentenced Clinton already.

Nate Silver: Election Update: The FBI Is Back — This Time With Anthony Weiner

The emails apparently came from electronic devices belonging to Anthony Weiner, the former congressman, and his wife, Huma Abedin, an aide to Clinton, and surfaced as part of an investigation into lewd text messages that Weiner sent to underage women. It isn’t clear that the emails directly implicate Clinton, and the reporting I’ve followed so far suggests that in a legal sense, Comey’s decision to inform Congress may be something done out of an “abundance of caution.”

But in a political sense, there’s certainly some downside for Clinton in the appearance of headlines containing the words “FBI,” “investigation” and “email” just 11 days before the election.

But it’s too soon to tell what level of ‘downside’ there is for Clinton via polls, although they have been closing up prior to the FBI bombshell of bugger all.

We’ve reached the point in the campaign in which there are so many polls coming in — state polls, national polls, tracking polls, one-off polls — that it’s really nice to have a model to sort out all the data. A couple of days ago, the model was beginning to detect tenuous signs that the presidential race was tightening.

Now, that seems a bit clearer. Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump is now 5.7 percentage points in our polls-only model, down from 7.1 points on Oct. 17.

The RealClear Politics rolling average is now +4.6% in Clinton’s favour.

And Trump’s chances of winning the election have recovered to 18 percent from a low of 12 percent. Trump’s chances in our polls-plus forecast are 21 percent, improved from a low of 15 percent.

A number of sources have reported that Clinton’s support had remained fairy stable at around 46/47%, but Trump’s had been creeping up in the low forties.

FiveThirtyEight prediction trend:

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The Clinton camp will be following polls more anxiously over the next few days.

 

US polls closing, Gringrich tetchy

The US presidential polls seem to be closing heading in to the last two weeks of the campaign, but Hillary Clinton appears to still hold an advantage over Donald Trump.

The RealClear Politics poll average has closed up to +4.4% for Clinton. Polls still vary widely:

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FiveThirtyEight also shows a gradual closing trend in expected result:

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Meanwhile Republican Speaker had a rancorous interview with Megyn Kelly on Fox News, discussing the polls and sexual predators, and accuses Fox of being anti-Trump like the rest of the media.

US campaign: dirt in all directions

The race to the bottom in the US presidential election continues with accusations of dirty campaigning from both directions.

Project Veritas has released another video claiming that Hillary Clinton has been directly involved in deliberate disruption of Donald Trump rallies including inciting violence (no evidence provided).

But Frank Luntz accuses Breitbart of collusion with campaign disruption.

Who to believe?

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Fox News: Trump campaign: Video shows Clinton coordinated with liberal group to incite crowds

Donald Trump’s campaign charged Monday that new undercover video shot by a conservative activist proves Hillary Clinton “directly” coordinated with a liberal group that’s been accused of inciting violence at Trump rallies.

The latest video from Project Veritas allegedly showed a Democratic operative – who previously had been linked to individuals accused of planting provocateurs at Trump events – bragging about receiving orders from Clinton to deploy Donald Duck-suited protesters to Trump events.

“In a totally disqualifying act that is a violent threat to our democracy, Hillary Clinton directly involved herself in inciting violence directed at Trump supporters,” Trump senior communications adviser Jason Miller said in a statement, demanding an investigation. 

The third Project Veritas video, released Monday, shows how the plan came together to have an activist in a duck costume follow Trump with a sign reading, “Donald ducks releasing his tax returns.” The footage features Democracy Partners head Robert Creamer suggesting the plot came from the Democratic presidential nominee herself.

There’s no evidence that the duck stunt incited anyone to violence, despite the Trump campaign statement.

However, the video points to alleged collaboration between the Clinton camp and the group tied a separate purported incitement scheme disclosed in the first two Project Veritas videos released last week. 

“It’s what we would call unethical, illegal, dirty tricks,” former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said on “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday. “It’s like paying people to break up Trump rallies and beat people up, and then have the press report for two months that Trump has violent rallies when in fact they people were paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.” 

But Politico reports: Breitbart coordinated with liberal activist and organizer who disrupted GOP primary campaign events

A liberal activist and organizer coordinated with reporters from the conservative news site Breitbart during the primaries to cover his disruptions of events for candidates such as Sen. Marco Rubio.

Aaron Black, an associate with Democracy Partners and a former Occupy Wall Street organizer, worked with the pro-Trump site Breitbart, tipping it off about his stunts, exchanging raw video and coordinating coverage, according to a source with direct knowledge of the situation.

Black has resurfaced recently as one of the people featured in undercover video from the Project Veritas group. In the video, he claims to work for the Democratic National Committee. Though he does not appear on their payroll, his bio at Democracy Partners credits him with “working closely with the Democratic National Committee” during the 2012 election cycle. Black in the video says he helped organize protests in Chicago that led to Trump’s cancellation of a rally there in March.

According to the source, Black coordinated with Breitbart via email, phone and in person, including when he dressed up as a robot and trolled Marco Rubio’s events. The relationship was described as very friendly. An article subsequently published on Breitbart featured video footage of a physical confrontation between Black and Rubio’s New Hampshire campaign chairman.

“He worked directly with Breitbart’s political team on the ground in the primary states to sabotage Marco Rubio & Ted Cruz, and elect Trump as nominee of [the Republican] party,” the source told POLITICO. “[Black] was coordinating with [Breitbart’s] top staff to rabble rouse against Rubio at rallies.”

That Breitbart had supported Trump over Rubio and Cruz is already known. The site has been a reliable source of pro-Donald Trump material, a relationship that was made official when Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon was appointed Trump’s campaign CEO in August. Bannon subsequently took a leave from his role at Breitbart.

But their willingness to work with a progressive activist perhaps goes to show how far they were willing to go to take down candidates.

Just as it’s easy to cherry pick polls to support one side or the other it’s easy to find claims and accusations that paint either the Trump campaign or the Clinton campaign as dirty.

This is complicated by the involvement of activists working from outside the campaigns, like Breitbart, WikiLeaks and Democracy Partners.

Here’s a photo of the (Trump/Clinton) campaign:

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By the Trump, for the Trump

The US presidential campaign is getting tedious, mostly more of the same from Donald Trump, and more of the little as possible from Hillary Clinton.

The polls still don’t look great for Trump. The RealClear Politics rolling average has closed up a smidgen to 5.9%, but the FiveThirtyEight ‘chance of winning’ trend is barely changing.

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This takes into account popular vote as well as key battleground states.

Trump seems to have tried to model himself on Abraham Lincoln with his own Gettsyburgh Address, which did include some policies that are likely to be popular

Details he announced included:

  • restrictions on White House officials becoming lobbyists after they leave office;
  • term limits for members of Congress;
  • the cancellation of all payments to UN climate change programmes and the redeployment of those funds to fix US infrastructure;
  • the start of the process of “removing the more than two million criminal, illegal immigrants” – and the denial of visa-free travel to countries who refused to take back their citizens

USA Today: Trump’s Gettysburg address outlines first 100 days

In a building named forDwight Eisenhower and on the land forever tied to an Abraham Lincoln speech, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump aimed to join their ranks as the 45th commander in chief with a policy speech outlining his first 100 days in office.

With two-and-one-half weeks left in the 2016 election and behind in the polls to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, Trump focused his speech on specific plans to ramp up support in a crucial swing state Saturday at the Eisenhower Complex in Gettysburg.

The speech included Trump’s ideas for cleaning up government corruption, such congressional term limits and bans on lobbying practices in Washington, D.C.

“This is my pledge to you,” Trump concluded. “And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government, of, by and for the people. We will make America great again.”

But this was undone with more of Trump’s antagonistic and divisive rhetoric post election legal threats.

Trump called Lincoln’s presidency an instance of great division in the country and repeatedly referenced the “of the people, by the people, for the people” line in the Gettysburg Address throughout his remarks.

“It is my hope that we can look at (Lincoln’s) example to heal the divisions we are living through right now,” he added.

Given that the Republican Party appears to be hopelessly divided due in part to Trump’s candidacy it’s hard to see how he can lead a healing of divisions.

Before laying out his plans, Trump listed the obstacles he says he is facing in a “rigged system,” including allegations of voter fraud, Clinton’s eligibility as a candidate and the “dishonest mainstream media,” topics that garnered cheers from the audience.

Trump also acknowledged the women who have recently come forward to allege sexual misconduct against him.

“Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign,” said Trump, adding that he plans to sue them after the election.

One of the biggest divisions Trump has driven is between himself and women.

He plans to sue al women (about eleven to date) who have claimed sexual misconduct, he plans to investigate and imprison Clinton, and he plans to break up the media conglomerates who claims have been biased against him – and without whom his campaign would never have gained traction. Plus there are growing rumours he plans to set up his own media conglomerate.

The campaign continues to be all about Trump, with Clinton appearing determined to keep out of out of sight and out of (any more) trouble.

Nate Silver says that early voting numbers are favouring Clinton and the Democrats in Election Update: Trump May Depress Republican Turnout, Spelling Disaster For The GOP.

One needs to be careful about drawing too many inferences from early-voting data. There are a lot of states to look at and a lot of ways to run the numbers, and we’ve seen smart analysts trick themselves into drawing conclusions that didn’t necessarily hold up well by Election Day. But it seems fair to say the data is mostly in line with the polls. Democrats are seeing very strong early-voting numbers in Virginia and reasonably encouraging ones in North Carolina, two states where Clinton has consistently outperformed Obama in polls. They also seem set to make gains in Arizona and Colorado, where the same is true. But Democratic numbers aren’t all that good in Iowa or Ohio, where Clinton has underperformed Obama in polls.

The problem for Trump is that taken as a whole, his polls aren’t very good — and, in fact, they may still be getting worse.

…you can easily see how the worst-case scenario is firmly on the table for Trump and Republican down-ballot candidates, where the bottom falls out from GOP turnout. Consider:

  • Trump is getting only about 80 percent of the Republican vote, whereas candidates typically finish at about 90 percent of their party’s vote or above.
  • Furthermore, the Republicans missing from Trump’s column tend to be high-education, high-income voters, who typically also have a high propensity to vote.
    Voters are increasingly convinced that Clinton will win the election, and turnout can be lower in lopsided elections. (Although, this presents risks to both candidates: complacency
  • on the part of Democrats, despondency on the part of Republicans.)
    Republicans and Trump have a substantial ground game deficit, with Clinton and Democrats holding a nearly 4-1 advantage in paid staffers.
  • Trump’s rhetoric that the election is rigged could discourage turnout among his own voters.
  • Trump’s base is relatively small, especially if he underperforms among college-educated Republicans.

The nightmare scenario for the GOP is that high-information Republican voters, seeing Trump imploding and not necessarily having been happy with him as their nominee in the first place, feel free to cast a protest vote at the top of the ticket. Meanwhile, lower-information Republican voters don’t turn out at all, given that Trump’s rigging rhetoric could suppress their vote and that Republicans don’t have the field operation to pull them back in.

The ‘Government by the Trump, for the Trump’ is looking like a shaky prospect.

3rd debate verdict

The verdict of the 3rd US presidential debate will be known in about three weeks, after the voters have been counted.

Reaction during and after the debate indicate that few voters are likely to have had their minds changed. Donald Trump was better in  ways but still controversial at times. Hillary Clinton didn’t do much wrong and deflected most of the tricky questions.

It is unusual, some say alarming, to see an American presidential candidate praise and defend the Russian president and appear to support the Syrian leader overseeing the destruction of his country.

As most polls are fairly strongly favouring Clinton, in the overall vote and in key states, Trump faces an uphill battle to recover his campaign – unless something favourable happens to help him or seriously damage Clinton’s chances outside his control.

A balanced summary of the debate at NBR: https://www.nbr.co.nz/debatethree

Trump saying he will appoint SCOTUS justices to overturn Roe v. Wade caused his numbers with independents to tank.
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That won’t help him win back support from women voters, one of his biggest problem demographics.

When Trump focuses on the failures and absurdities of Clinton/Obama foreign policy, even Hillary-leaners give him solid scores.

Voters want the candidates to support the election results. No excuses. Hillary did. Trump did not.

That last tweet refers to probably the biggest talking point of the debate – Trump’s failure to rule out accepting the election result if he loses.

TPM Livewire: Trump’s Refusal To Commit To Election Result Dominates Post-Debate Headlines

He didn’t need that, he needed positive headlines. Even Fox News went with this: Trump won’t commit to accepting election results, at fiery final debate with Clinton

Donald Trump would not commit Wednesday night to accepting the results of the presidential election if he loses on Nov. 8, in a striking moment during his final debate with Hillary Clinton that underscored the deepening tensions in the race – as the bitter rivals defined the choice for voters on an array of issues not three weeks from Election Day.

The most pointed moment came when Trump – who for weeks has warned of a “rigged” election – was asked whether he will commit to accept the results of the election.

“I will look at it at the time,” Trump said, citing his concerns about voter registration fraud, a “corrupt media” and an opponent he claimed “shouldn’t be allowed to run” because she committed a “very serious crime” with her emails.

Clinton delivered a sharp rejoinder: “That’s horrifying.”

“That is not the way our democracy works,” she said. “He is denigrating, he’s talking down our democracy and I for one am appalled.”

Pressed again whether he’s prepared to concede if he loses, Trump again said: “I will tell you at the time. I’ll keep you in suspense.”

RNC Chair Reince Priebus says Trump WILL accept the results of the election

The mess in the Republican Party continues, and could get even uglier if Trump loses.

And a comment that won’t help him turn things around:

Trump called Clinton a “nasty woman.”

This is a common view:

Clinton called Trump the “most dangerous” person to run for president in modern history.

Throughout this campaign, Donald Trump has fashioned himself as the “law and order” candidate. In Las Vegas on Wednesday night, in his third and final presidential debate with Hillary Clinton, he showed himself to be an agent of lawlessness and disorder.

Asked by moderator Chris Wallace whether he would concede the election in the event he loses, Trump confirmed the fears he has sown for weeks. “I will look at it at the time,” he said. “I will keep you in suspense.”

It is tempting to view this statement in the context of Trump’s long history of reckless utterances. But his refusal to abide by an election result is of a very specific, and disqualifying, character. It strikes at the heart of American democracy. Neither the nation’s government nor its politics can function if losing presidential candidates do not concede defeat and facilitate the peaceful transfer of power.

Trump, enemy of democracy:
1) My opponent shouldn’t be allowed to run
2) If I lose, I may dispute outcome
3) If I win, she will go to jail.

Even the numbers on a Trump friendly website went against him (albeit an unreliable online poll):

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A CNN post-debate poll had Clinton clearly in front too.

Polls vary from about even to a double figure lead to Clinton, averaging around the 6-7% mark.

It would take an unprecedented turnaround for Clinton to lose from here.

Presidential debate aftermath

I wasn’t able to watch the first presidential debate but I watched all of yesterday’s debate, plus some of the reaction.

Apparently Donald Trump’s performance was significantly better than his first effort, but the bar was set quite low. He avoided answering most questions, the little policy he talked about was vague – somehow he would substantially reduce health costs and make health care much better – and he spent most of his time attacking Hillary Clinton.

As a results Clinton copped a few hits, especially over her email debacle. She also took a few swipes at Trump, especially over his fitness to be a President. She talked a bit more about policies and sounded more knowledgeable on a range of topics.

But Clinton didn’t do anything that would be likely to sway many voters. She seems to be playing a safe campaign, presumably aiming to maintain her lead and let Trump keep damaging his own credibility.

It’s getting to the stage that Trump really needs a game changer and he is unlikely to have got anything like that out of the debate.

One significant aspect of the debate was when Trump said he would instruct ‘my Attorney General’ to throw the book at Clinton and put her in jail – that’s a remarkable threat from a US presidential candidate, and it’s remarkable that it was just one thing mentioned after the debate and not a major scandal.

I tuned into two different planets afterwards to see reactions.

On Fox, on Hannity in particular, they thought Trump was marvellous, made excuses for his worst behaviour, and Clinton was the pits.

On CNN the reactions were more mixed but were more critical of Trump and said Clinton did ok in parts.

CNN had a poll which put Clinton ahead in the debate from memory about 58-38. But a focus group of ‘undecideds’ run by Frank Luntz was heavily in favour of Trump 18-4.

As a result I can’t see the debate changing support for either candidate much. Trump needs a swing in his favour so he would have lost out if it was a neutral outcome.

Of more concern for Trump is the continued bleeding of support from his own side.

Meanwhile Trump’s running mate Mike Pence seems to be distancing himself from Trump.

Mike Pence Cancels NJ Fundraiser

GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence has called off a fundraising event in New Jersey on Monday, stoking concerns of a divide on the presidential ticket after the Indiana governor publicly denounced Donald Trump’s lewd comments about women.

But not ditching him.

 CNN: Pence: I never considered leaving Trump ticket

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence said Monday that he did not consider leaving Donald Trump’s presidential ticket, saying it’s the “greatest honor of my life” to be nominated by the Republican Party as Trump’s running mate.

“You know I’ll always keep my conversations with Donald Trump and my family private. But it’s absolutely false to suggest that at any point in time we considered dropping off this ticket,” Pence told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota in an interview on “New Day.”

Pence was then asked if evidence surfaced that Trump had groped women, like he described in 2005, would he drop off the ticket. But he deflected to accusations against Bill Clinton.

“Alisyn, he said last night very clearly that that was talk, not actions. And I believe him and I think the contrast between that and what the Clintons were involved in 20 years ago — the four women that were present last night — was pretty dramatic,” Pence said.

Trump contradicted Pence on Syria policy in the debate, signaling a divide on foreign policy issues on the GOP ticket.

One of the most prominent post-debate headlines was from the Republican House Speaker.

CNN: Paul Ryan said he won’t defend Donald Trump

House Speaker Paul Ryan dealt his own party’s presidential nominee a withering blow Monday, telling fellow Republicans he will no longer defend Donald Trump and will instead use the next 29 days to focus on preserving his party’s hold on Congress.

“The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” Ryan’s spokeswoman, AshLee Strong, said in a statement.

The move — highly unusual in US political history — laid bare the seemingly intractable divisions now seizing the Republican Party with a month left before the presidential vote. Support for Trump among the GOP establishment, already weak amid disagreements over policy and tone, has now eroded to new lows.

In a conference call with members Monday morning, Ryan told lawmakers, “you all need to do what’s best for you and your district,” according to someone who listened to the meeting.

“He will spend his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress,” said the person on the call — an implied acknowledgment that Trump no longer appears able to capture the White House.

Reaction to Ryan’s decision illustrates the schism currently splitting the Republican Party. A person who listened to the call said the reaction wasn’t entirely positive — and that Ryan’s comments angered more conservative GOP members who believed the speaker was essentially conceding the presidential contest to Clinton.

With this short of fracturing amongst the Republicans it’s going to be an uphill struggle for the Trump campaign.

Clinton just needs to stick to her political knitting and hope Wikileaks doesn’t damage her too much. Trumps claims against her can’t get much worse than they already are and he is still trailing.

Presidential debate #2

The second US presidential debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton will be held at 2 pm this afternoon, NZ time.

There will be heaps of coverage, both locally and on Fox, CNN, FiveThirtyEight, Al Jazeera and probably just about everywhere else. There will be live broadcasts, live streaming, live blogs and wall to wall commentary for what seems to be more of a freak show than a contest for the most powerful position in the world.

Gezza swears by the Al Jazeera coverage:

Aljaz live is the one to watch. Last time they had the fact-checkers’ results coming up on a split screen. Teams of them get to work all over the US as soon as either one of them says stuff that people wonder if it’s true.

The Trump recordings and Clinton emails have turned the contest into a maelstrom of claims, counter claims, denials and attempts at diversions.

Fox News:FULL DEBATE COVERAGE

Protests heat up outside debate as kick off approaches

Per Fox News’ Matthew Dean, who is on the scene at at Washington University in St. Louis for tonight’s second presidential debate:

There are over 200 protesters/supporters from various groups who have started demonstrating on the football field designated the “Freedom of Expression Area” across the street from the debate hall.

The area is very large and the line to get through security is steady.

So far among the groups of demonstrators include:

-Dozens of Trump supporters with signs, flags, etc. On the way in they did the “lock Hillary up” chant. One group of Trump supporters that just walked in is entirely female.

-Clinton supporters but they are scattered and more subdued than Trump supporters at this point.

-Jill Stein and Gary Johnson supporters.

-St. Louis Tea Party

-A group of female protestors all dressed in head to toe costumes with bricks all over them. On the bricks are the names of all the women Trump has insulted, degraded, etc.