Sympathy for Slater?

I recently posted legal facts about the defamation cases against Cameron Slater at Kiwiblog. as usual there I got a mixed reception. One comment was from ‘Debbie’:

I really struggle to understand why some would have sympathy for Cameron Slater just because he *sometimes* posts right-leaning views.

Everything about him is disgusting. He has no sense of personal self-responsibility, he has leeched off the taxpayer for so long, he publishes absolute lies so long as someone will pay him, destroys people’s lives for fun, then when held account cries victim.

Even if the stroke is genuine, it probably has more to do with being a fat lardass who sits on a computer all day, every day, than the so-called “stress” of court cases – which could have easily been avoided by simply acting like a decent human being. (After all, noone has ever tried to sue David Farrar for defamation, even if they disagreed with his political leanings.)

If the stroke is real, it was a direct consequence of his unhealthy lifestyle choices. But it shouldn’t excuse him from the consequences of his shitty behaviour to other human beings, and whilst I might be tempted to laugh at his bankruptcy application, I have more sympathy for Matt Blomfield et al who may not ever receive any compensation for his defamation. Slater really is a piece of shit.

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No one commented in response. There were a few digs at me, including false claims. I responded to one with “I don’t have a palpable dislike for WO.” In reply to that Keeping stock posted:

Pass me a bottle of Tui please Pete. Just admit that you are reveling in Slater/WO’s demise. Be honest about it; no one would think badly of you given you got caught up on the fringes of his legal issues.

But please, stop pretending to be an objective, neutral observer here.

No criticism of Slater, but a swipe at me. I explained that I am not  “reveling in Slater/WO’s demise”, and I had not suggested I was “an objective, neutral observer here”.

I was included in a twitter thread last night that began:

This moved into a discussion on sympathy about Slater.

Some sign of contrition might change my view of him but that doesn’t seem his style.

So I added my thoughts on how I feel about it.

He and associates of his have tried to hurt me quite badly. Wife threatened. Home threatened. Family threatened. Home threatened. Online acquaintances threatened. Expensive legal action against me. Blog threatened. Liberty threatened. Criminal record threatened.

I have empathy and some sympathy for anyone who has a medical event like a stroke. Also for their family.

But I have some scepticism of severity of illness, with good reason. One of his ‘lawfare’ associates, Dermot Nottingham, used illness to try to defer and extend legal actions, and as an excuse for not complying with timetables and legal obligations, adversely affected many.

See:

[7] Lastly, Mr Nottingham pleaded that the court also ought to extend an indulgence to him as a lay litigant and he asserted that health problems have affected his ability to prepare. We are not prepared to extend time on this ground. He appears regularly enough in the courts to eliminate any claim to dispensation for limited resources or unfamiliarity with process.

DERMOT NOTTINGHAM v MALTESE CAT LIMITED [2018] NZCA 387 [24 September 2017]

Result – hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs unpaid resulting in bankruptcy.

See: HONEY v NOTTINGHAM [2018] NZHC 2382 [11 September 2018]

In the APN, Allied Press, Prentice and my cases Slater was informant and ‘expert’ witness. In the Honey case Whale Oil was used to attack them, referred to on Twitter by another associate Marc Spring as ‘fucked over on Whale Oil’.

So, some sympathy for illness, degree reserved on proof of severity. No sympathy for Slater’s legal or financial predicaments, all of his own making.

As has said, no contrition from Slater whatsoever, on the contrary, he claims to be the victim and blames those he has attacked for his situation. As does Nottingham (many court documents show this, including his sentencing notes after 7 convictions).

So, some sympathy for the illness, with the degree of sympathy reserved pending facts about the severity of the illness.

Sympathy for family, especially children (Slater’s wife shares some responsibility for aiding and abetting and taking part in dirty attacks).

Zero sympathy for Slater’s self inflicted legal and financial situation.